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		<title>By: Miss Landmine &#171; Bashing innie Boendoes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss Landmine &#171; Bashing innie Boendoes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 14:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] kompetisie het nie oral byval gevind nie. Black Looks en Feministe (onder andere) het nie geskroom om hul afkeer uit te spreek nie.  Ek kan ook nie presies my [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] kompetisie het nie oral byval gevind nie. Black Looks en Feministe (onder andere) het nie geskroom om hul afkeer uit te spreek nie.  Ek kan ook nie presies my [...]</p>
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		<title>By: gail</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/19/miss-landmine-angola/#comment-144139</link>
		<dc:creator>gail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 19:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it was a Howard Stern-type satire.  But no, it&#039;s for real.  I am astounded.  I believe the expression is &quot;commodifying suffering&quot;.  Is it true that the winner receives a prosthetic leg?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it was a Howard Stern-type satire.  But no, it&#8217;s for real.  I am astounded.  I believe the expression is &#8220;commodifying suffering&#8221;.  Is it true that the winner receives a prosthetic leg?</p>
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		<title>By: Deep Muck Big Rake &#187; Miss Landmine Angola 2008</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/19/miss-landmine-angola/#comment-140388</link>
		<dc:creator>Deep Muck Big Rake &#187; Miss Landmine Angola 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 01:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alas, a blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Best of 2007</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/19/miss-landmine-angola/#comment-140045</link>
		<dc:creator>Alas, a blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Best of 2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 04:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ability lays down on the job &#8212; Recently, feminist blogs have written about the beauty contest Miss Landmine Angola. Here&#8217;s my take on another [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Indy</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/19/miss-landmine-angola/#comment-138255</link>
		<dc:creator>Indy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh sweet jesus.

Angola is a deeply fucked up place. I did a paper on that nation for a sub-saharan geography class- 

Aparthied south africa had an intentional stratagy of destabalizing its neighbors, blowing shit up for giggles. Throw in the nifty US/Soviet proxy war (with castro in to boot) and you get a country covered in landmines. The largest heavy armor tank battle between WWII and Gulf I was fought there. The &quot;socialist&quot; president funnels the offshore oil revenue into his pocket, and back in the late 80&#039;s on into the 90&#039;s, they would intentionally re-mine the roads so that local cheiftans (who controlled the airstrips) could cut off outside contact and keep the local population in check by controlling all the airlifted UN food aid. The only good thing to happen there in recent years was when they finally tracked down and killed Jonas Savimbi, the &quot;capitalist&quot; gurrilla/US proxy/meglomaniac. With him gone, at least nobody is putting out even more landmines. 

They don&#039;t have crutches. If you survive the mine, you will be a beggar, and you will be lucky to a pipe. or a stick. One account I read talked about a woman who had basically ended up with scoliosis due to her heavy, uneven improvised crutches. This was just an aside in a story about election rigging.

This issue THE LANDMINE issue, is the one that is viscerally important. I&#039;m really glad to see some / any mention of this, anywhere.

This sounds like some peace corps kidz pipe dream, but it may actually help some people.

This is Angola. They shoot people who show any form of civic engagement. The president&#039;s personal bodyguard/secret police &quot;the ninjas&quot;, face absolutely no reprocussions for shooting you. Being near a presidential motorcade can get you killed. Being a journalist will get you killed. Asking for things in an organized, public fashion would proably come in #3.

This project appears to be funded by the EU and some nordic countries.
And one artist guy who comes across as kind of a jerk, but does acknowledge some of the issues raised here.

http://www.miss-landmine.org/misslandmine_press_eng10.html

(I say acknowlege, not actually address. He basically says everything on the Angolan side is ducky, and that the old-school feminists who run western aid organizations go completely blank on him whenever he uses the words &quot;beauty pagent&quot;.)

A beauty pagent at least has a naritive framework. The idea of &quot;click on the link to look at desperately poor mangled people from a forgotten third world dictatorship&quot; really lacks, uh, any sort of appeal whatsoever.

On another note, anybody see the class stuff? Like, how a lot of the staged shots are done in bussness settings, on cellphones? or the woman with the roll posed on top of that safe?

Bling! Comes to Angola.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh sweet jesus.</p>
<p>Angola is a deeply fucked up place. I did a paper on that nation for a sub-saharan geography class- </p>
<p>Aparthied south africa had an intentional stratagy of destabalizing its neighbors, blowing shit up for giggles. Throw in the nifty US/Soviet proxy war (with castro in to boot) and you get a country covered in landmines. The largest heavy armor tank battle between WWII and Gulf I was fought there. The &#8220;socialist&#8221; president funnels the offshore oil revenue into his pocket, and back in the late 80&#8242;s on into the 90&#8242;s, they would intentionally re-mine the roads so that local cheiftans (who controlled the airstrips) could cut off outside contact and keep the local population in check by controlling all the airlifted UN food aid. The only good thing to happen there in recent years was when they finally tracked down and killed Jonas Savimbi, the &#8220;capitalist&#8221; gurrilla/US proxy/meglomaniac. With him gone, at least nobody is putting out even more landmines. </p>
<p>They don&#8217;t have crutches. If you survive the mine, you will be a beggar, and you will be lucky to a pipe. or a stick. One account I read talked about a woman who had basically ended up with scoliosis due to her heavy, uneven improvised crutches. This was just an aside in a story about election rigging.</p>
<p>This issue THE LANDMINE issue, is the one that is viscerally important. I&#8217;m really glad to see some / any mention of this, anywhere.</p>
<p>This sounds like some peace corps kidz pipe dream, but it may actually help some people.</p>
<p>This is Angola. They shoot people who show any form of civic engagement. The president&#8217;s personal bodyguard/secret police &#8220;the ninjas&#8221;, face absolutely no reprocussions for shooting you. Being near a presidential motorcade can get you killed. Being a journalist will get you killed. Asking for things in an organized, public fashion would proably come in #3.</p>
<p>This project appears to be funded by the EU and some nordic countries.<br />
And one artist guy who comes across as kind of a jerk, but does acknowledge some of the issues raised here.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.miss-landmine.org/misslandmine_press_eng10.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.miss-landmine.org/misslandmine_press_eng10.html</a></p>
<p>(I say acknowlege, not actually address. He basically says everything on the Angolan side is ducky, and that the old-school feminists who run western aid organizations go completely blank on him whenever he uses the words &#8220;beauty pagent&#8221;.)</p>
<p>A beauty pagent at least has a naritive framework. The idea of &#8220;click on the link to look at desperately poor mangled people from a forgotten third world dictatorship&#8221; really lacks, uh, any sort of appeal whatsoever.</p>
<p>On another note, anybody see the class stuff? Like, how a lot of the staged shots are done in bussness settings, on cellphones? or the woman with the roll posed on top of that safe?</p>
<p>Bling! Comes to Angola.</p>
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		<title>By: Jadewolf</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/19/miss-landmine-angola/#comment-138168</link>
		<dc:creator>Jadewolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warning: stridency ahead.  This makes me mad at the organizers, not Jill or the other posters here.

Yeah, no.  How does being objectified by men empower these women?  Just because they were traditionally &quot;unfuckable,&quot; and now they&#039;ve been glamorized, does not mean that they are turning the patriarchy on it&#039;s head.  They&#039;ve just been co-opted.  If, for example, there was a program for disabled people to go out in the community and be visible and demand acceptance as full human beings, that would be wonderful.  But this pageant just has the women stand there and be objects for &quot;designers&quot; to dress and men to ogle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warning: stridency ahead.  This makes me mad at the organizers, not Jill or the other posters here.</p>
<p>Yeah, no.  How does being objectified by men empower these women?  Just because they were traditionally &#8220;unfuckable,&#8221; and now they&#8217;ve been glamorized, does not mean that they are turning the patriarchy on it&#8217;s head.  They&#8217;ve just been co-opted.  If, for example, there was a program for disabled people to go out in the community and be visible and demand acceptance as full human beings, that would be wonderful.  But this pageant just has the women stand there and be objects for &#8220;designers&#8221; to dress and men to ogle.</p>
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		<title>By: angryyoungwoman</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/19/miss-landmine-angola/#comment-138034</link>
		<dc:creator>angryyoungwoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a disabled woman myself, my feelings are very mixed--but tend to the negative about this.  Of course there&#039;s the beauty standard thing:  it&#039;s nice that people will &quot;accept&quot; those of us with disabilities as beautiful, but I&#039;m seriously questioning why we should have to prove it.  What really gets me, though, is that it&#039;s a competition--&quot;look, this woman with one leg is prettier than that woman with one leg!  Ok, she wins.&quot;  The idea makes me throw up a little.  If they all have the same goal, why should they be competing?

The fact that this is going to be used to promote designer clothes just reaffirms my belief that the world culture doesn&#039;t care about people with disabilities unless they can use them to make money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a disabled woman myself, my feelings are very mixed&#8211;but tend to the negative about this.  Of course there&#8217;s the beauty standard thing:  it&#8217;s nice that people will &#8220;accept&#8221; those of us with disabilities as beautiful, but I&#8217;m seriously questioning why we should have to prove it.  What really gets me, though, is that it&#8217;s a competition&#8211;&#8221;look, this woman with one leg is prettier than that woman with one leg!  Ok, she wins.&#8221;  The idea makes me throw up a little.  If they all have the same goal, why should they be competing?</p>
<p>The fact that this is going to be used to promote designer clothes just reaffirms my belief that the world culture doesn&#8217;t care about people with disabilities unless they can use them to make money.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisR</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/19/miss-landmine-angola/#comment-138012</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 05:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead of CNN-fluff &quot;diamonds vs. pearls&quot; questions, we should be asking what the candidates will do to end the weapons trade. 

What&#039;s the main organization working on this issue? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fcnl.org/weapons/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FCNL&lt;/a&gt;? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.controlarms.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Amnesty International&lt;/a&gt;? Something else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of CNN-fluff &#8220;diamonds vs. pearls&#8221; questions, we should be asking what the candidates will do to end the weapons trade. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s the main organization working on this issue? <a href="http://www.fcnl.org/weapons/" rel="nofollow">FCNL</a>? <a href="http://www.controlarms.org/" rel="nofollow">Amnesty International</a>? Something else?</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine Vigneault</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/19/miss-landmine-angola/#comment-138009</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine Vigneault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 05:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. 
I have seriously mixed feelings about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.<br />
I have seriously mixed feelings about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a disability activist perspective, I&#039;m torn (though lean toward hating more than accepting the pageant). What&#039;s worse than being objectified as a woman? Being deemed outside the category of woman because of impairments or failure to meet a bodily norm. Being utterly invisible &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; worse, particularly with a history of disabled people being segregated, institutionalized or euthanized.

But, of course, these women aren&#039;t actually competing as &lt;i&gt;normal&lt;/i&gt; women. It&#039;s not a pageant for Miss Angola -- it&#039;s Miss Landmine Angola. And it&#039;s not even Miss Amputee Angola, which would at least refer to the woman&#039;s body and not the weapon that injured her.

On the other hand, disability within different cultures is treated differently. Disabled babies in Ghana, for example, are routinely killed at birth. If not, they spend their lives begging on the street, according to the documentary film &lt;i&gt;Emmanuel&#039;s Gift&lt;/i&gt;. If the range of options are similar in Angola, than simply having your picture taken because of your beauty is a hugely accepting thing if you&#039;re disabled. If it means some self-worth where society has none for you, or maybe a brief modeling job or access to a better prosthetic or even a better crutch than you&#039;ve had, well, I don&#039;t really know how to be fully against that. 

Then again, this isn&#039;t a pageant for &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; disabled people either -- the visibly congenitally disabled usually ranking below those with acquired disabilities in all cultures. It&#039;s a pageant for those who &lt;i&gt;were normal&lt;/i&gt; and thus, worthy, but are not normal anymore.

I don&#039;t think it&#039;s particularly subversive, though, mainly because there&#039;s nothing about the beauty pageant format that seems altered -- it&#039;s very much designed for the male gaze. I have a problem labeling someone&#039;s presence where they&#039;ve previously been absent as subversive. Action is subversive, not mere existence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a disability activist perspective, I&#8217;m torn (though lean toward hating more than accepting the pageant). What&#8217;s worse than being objectified as a woman? Being deemed outside the category of woman because of impairments or failure to meet a bodily norm. Being utterly invisible <i>is</i> worse, particularly with a history of disabled people being segregated, institutionalized or euthanized.</p>
<p>But, of course, these women aren&#8217;t actually competing as <i>normal</i> women. It&#8217;s not a pageant for Miss Angola &#8212; it&#8217;s Miss Landmine Angola. And it&#8217;s not even Miss Amputee Angola, which would at least refer to the woman&#8217;s body and not the weapon that injured her.</p>
<p>On the other hand, disability within different cultures is treated differently. Disabled babies in Ghana, for example, are routinely killed at birth. If not, they spend their lives begging on the street, according to the documentary film <i>Emmanuel&#8217;s Gift</i>. If the range of options are similar in Angola, than simply having your picture taken because of your beauty is a hugely accepting thing if you&#8217;re disabled. If it means some self-worth where society has none for you, or maybe a brief modeling job or access to a better prosthetic or even a better crutch than you&#8217;ve had, well, I don&#8217;t really know how to be fully against that. </p>
<p>Then again, this isn&#8217;t a pageant for <i>all</i> disabled people either &#8212; the visibly congenitally disabled usually ranking below those with acquired disabilities in all cultures. It&#8217;s a pageant for those who <i>were normal</i> and thus, worthy, but are not normal anymore.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s particularly subversive, though, mainly because there&#8217;s nothing about the beauty pageant format that seems altered &#8212; it&#8217;s very much designed for the male gaze. I have a problem labeling someone&#8217;s presence where they&#8217;ve previously been absent as subversive. Action is subversive, not mere existence.</p>
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