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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: Bitter Scribe</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/23/transgender-politician-sued-for-fraud/#comment-139001</link>
		<dc:creator>Bitter Scribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“It gives her an unfair advantage,” said the lawyer, Michael King. “It’s not just sour grapes.&quot;

&lt;/blockquote&gt;This has to be the most ridiculous women-have-an-unfair-advantage lawsuit since some prisoner sued to overturn his conviction on the ground that the prosecutor was visibly pregnant when she tried the case, which would make the jurors sympathetic to her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“It gives her an unfair advantage,” said the lawyer, Michael King. “It’s not just sour grapes.&#8221;</p>
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<p>This has to be the most ridiculous women-have-an-unfair-advantage lawsuit since some prisoner sued to overturn his conviction on the ground that the prosecutor was visibly pregnant when she tried the case, which would make the jurors sympathetic to her.</p>
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		<title>By: Jovan1984</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/23/transgender-politician-sued-for-fraud/#comment-138864</link>
		<dc:creator>Jovan1984</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, Lisa.  This is a frivolous lawsuit and surprise -- it is coming from the very group of people who support these so-called &quot;tort reform&quot; laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Lisa.  This is a frivolous lawsuit and surprise &#8212; it is coming from the very group of people who support these so-called &#8220;tort reform&#8221; laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Some Links &#171; Questioning Transphobia</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/23/transgender-politician-sued-for-fraud/#comment-138691</link>
		<dc:creator>Some Links &#171; Questioning Transphobia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 04:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on Feministe posts about the transgender politician sued for fraud. I covered this somewhat, but didn&#8217;t comment much. Cara has a lot to say that I happen to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on Feministe posts about the transgender politician sued for fraud. I covered this somewhat, but didn&#8217;t comment much. Cara has a lot to say that I happen to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Harney</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/23/transgender-politician-sued-for-fraud/#comment-138669</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Harney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 23:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad being a woman is an advantage. I made the right choice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad being a woman is an advantage. I made the right choice!</p>
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		<title>By: DaisyDeadhead</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/23/transgender-politician-sued-for-fraud/#comment-138656</link>
		<dc:creator>DaisyDeadhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 21:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#2 asdf, stole my answer!  But it bears repeating.

&lt;blockquote&gt;“It gives her an unfair advantage,” said the lawyer, Michael King. “It’s not just sour grapes. The people need to know whether the election is fair.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So now being a woman is an advantage in an election?  Since when? 

A SOUTHERN election? Right. What a fucking joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2 asdf, stole my answer!  But it bears repeating.</p>
<blockquote><p>“It gives her an unfair advantage,” said the lawyer, Michael King. “It’s not just sour grapes. The people need to know whether the election is fair.”</p></blockquote>
<p>So now being a woman is an advantage in an election?  Since when? </p>
<p>A SOUTHERN election? Right. What a fucking joke.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Harney</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/23/transgender-politician-sued-for-fraud/#comment-138596</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Harney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is like suing one&#039;s opponent for having had polio and unable to walk at some point in the past. &quot;She&#039;s fraudulently presenting herself as able-bodied!&quot;

The whole &quot;We totally have the right to ask invasive questions about your genitals and personal life because you have a transsexual history&quot; thing is just one of the ways that society tries to hammer home that trans people don&#039;t deserve full personhood and the benefits that come with that (privacy, for example). I&#039;ve heard people with disabilities talk about similarly invasive questioning - not genitalia, but the assumption that a visible medical condition means you&#039;re obligated to tell people about it.

Not that this is a button of mine or anything.

I really hope the case is just thrown out as frivolous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is like suing one&#8217;s opponent for having had polio and unable to walk at some point in the past. &#8220;She&#8217;s fraudulently presenting herself as able-bodied!&#8221;</p>
<p>The whole &#8220;We totally have the right to ask invasive questions about your genitals and personal life because you have a transsexual history&#8221; thing is just one of the ways that society tries to hammer home that trans people don&#8217;t deserve full personhood and the benefits that come with that (privacy, for example). I&#8217;ve heard people with disabilities talk about similarly invasive questioning &#8211; not genitalia, but the assumption that a visible medical condition means you&#8217;re obligated to tell people about it.</p>
<p>Not that this is a button of mine or anything.</p>
<p>I really hope the case is just thrown out as frivolous.</p>
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		<title>By: kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 00:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Ms. Bruce ran as a woman even though she wasn’t, knew she wasn’t, acted with the intent of making plaintiff do … um… something? Not vote for her, since the plaintiffs would have voted for themselves. Vote for a woman? Since one of the plaintiffs is a woman&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hilarity ensues.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Sorry Ms. Fuller, your case and your lawyer are both stupid and reprehensible. Please go home and accept your political defeat.  Also let not forget the big elephant in the room, Wayne Hall, a man, beat you, Ms. fuller.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There&#039;s a beautiful comedy skit inside that whole thing just waiting to come out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Ms. Bruce ran as a woman even though she wasn’t, knew she wasn’t, acted with the intent of making plaintiff do … um… something? Not vote for her, since the plaintiffs would have voted for themselves. Vote for a woman? Since one of the plaintiffs is a woman</p></blockquote>
<p>Hilarity ensues.</p>
<blockquote><p>Sorry Ms. Fuller, your case and your lawyer are both stupid and reprehensible. Please go home and accept your political defeat.  Also let not forget the big elephant in the room, Wayne Hall, a man, beat you, Ms. fuller.</p></blockquote>
<p>There&#8217;s a beautiful comedy skit inside that whole thing just waiting to come out.</p>
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		<title>By: Gayle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gayle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 23:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hawise,

Oh yeah,  sour grapes.  

I also agree with the bloggers above who question his assertion that being female is somehow an advantage in politics.   So not true in any universe I know of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hawise,</p>
<p>Oh yeah,  sour grapes.  </p>
<p>I also agree with the bloggers above who question his assertion that being female is somehow an advantage in politics.   So not true in any universe I know of.</p>
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		<title>By: fetboy</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/23/transgender-politician-sued-for-fraud/#comment-138540</link>
		<dc:creator>fetboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 23:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“It gives her an unfair advantage,” said the lawyer, Michael King. “It’s not just sour grapes. The people need to know whether the election is fair.”
It gave HER an unfair advantage!!! So even the ambulance chaser Michael King believes Michelle Bruce is a woman.  Sorry Ms. Fuller, your case and your lawyer are both stupid and reprehensible. Please go home and accept your political defeat.
Also let not forget the big elephant in the room, Wayne Hall, a man, beat you, Ms. fuller.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“It gives her an unfair advantage,” said the lawyer, Michael King. “It’s not just sour grapes. The people need to know whether the election is fair.”<br />
It gave HER an unfair advantage!!! So even the ambulance chaser Michael King believes Michelle Bruce is a woman.  Sorry Ms. Fuller, your case and your lawyer are both stupid and reprehensible. Please go home and accept your political defeat.<br />
Also let not forget the big elephant in the room, Wayne Hall, a man, beat you, Ms. fuller.</p>
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		<title>By: zuzu</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/23/transgender-politician-sued-for-fraud/#comment-138530</link>
		<dc:creator>zuzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 22:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been trying to find a copy of the complaint without success, unfortunately.  It was brought by two losing candidates, a man and a woman, so I&#039;d love to hear their theory on the advantage Ms. Bruce got for running as a woman.  I&#039;m sure it&#039;s convoluted.

I&#039;m sure it&#039;s something like this: Ms. Bruce ran as a woman even though she wasn&#039;t, knew she wasn&#039;t, acted with the intent of making plaintiff do ... um... something? Not vote for her, since the plaintiffs would have voted for themselves.  Vote for a woman?  Since one of the plaintiffs is a woman, how does that work?  This is where it all falls apart, IMO.

Not to mention, usually the fact that&#039;s being hidden or lied about has to be material, and I don&#039;t see how you make the argument that a candidate&#039;s gender is material.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been trying to find a copy of the complaint without success, unfortunately.  It was brought by two losing candidates, a man and a woman, so I&#8217;d love to hear their theory on the advantage Ms. Bruce got for running as a woman.  I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s convoluted.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s something like this: Ms. Bruce ran as a woman even though she wasn&#8217;t, knew she wasn&#8217;t, acted with the intent of making plaintiff do &#8230; um&#8230; something? Not vote for her, since the plaintiffs would have voted for themselves.  Vote for a woman?  Since one of the plaintiffs is a woman, how does that work?  This is where it all falls apart, IMO.</p>
<p>Not to mention, usually the fact that&#8217;s being hidden or lied about has to be material, and I don&#8217;t see how you make the argument that a candidate&#8217;s gender is material.</p>
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