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		<title>By: 10 Reasons to Support Reproductive Justice on Roe Day - CommonDreams.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>10 Reasons to Support Reproductive Justice on Roe Day - CommonDreams.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] care about lowering the abortion rate, right? Wrong. They oppose contraception, too &#8212; and though they&#8217;re quiet about it now, you can bet that it&#8217;s next on the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] care about lowering the abortion rate, right? Wrong. They oppose contraception, too &#8212; and though they&#8217;re quiet about it now, you can bet that it&#8217;s next on the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Feministe » Blogging for Choice: 10 Reasons to Support Reproductive Justice on Roe Day</title>
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		<dc:creator>Feministe » Blogging for Choice: 10 Reasons to Support Reproductive Justice on Roe Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] birth control, too. Pro-lifers care about lowering the abortion rate, right? Wrong. They oppose contraception, too &#8212; and though they&#8217;re quiet about it now, you can bet that it&#8217;s next on the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] birth control, too. Pro-lifers care about lowering the abortion rate, right? Wrong. They oppose contraception, too &#8212; and though they&#8217;re quiet about it now, you can bet that it&#8217;s next on the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 06:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK so, umm. . . I think that maybe rather than rip Hector&#039;s throat out we should thank him for supporting the same side we do.  I agree that this whole birth control price increase thing is insane.  I am 19 work 20hrs a week take a full load of classes and pay over 150 dollars every month for endocrine related drugs of which my birth control pill is on of the cheapest.  
It is a sign of the cultural death that we live in that we cannot accept a drug having two separate purposes or girls using the pill as a back up to abstinence.  Also, I congratulate Hector on having bought condoms.  Most guys I know won&#039;t use them unless absolutely necessary.  They tend to prefer annual screening to prevent disease and pulling out to prevent pregnancy. 
Also, this is rather off topic, they include both typical use and perfect use numbers on the statistics for bcp&#039;s they should do the same for abstinence.  That would put things in slightly better perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK so, umm. . . I think that maybe rather than rip Hector&#8217;s throat out we should thank him for supporting the same side we do.  I agree that this whole birth control price increase thing is insane.  I am 19 work 20hrs a week take a full load of classes and pay over 150 dollars every month for endocrine related drugs of which my birth control pill is on of the cheapest.<br />
It is a sign of the cultural death that we live in that we cannot accept a drug having two separate purposes or girls using the pill as a back up to abstinence.  Also, I congratulate Hector on having bought condoms.  Most guys I know won&#8217;t use them unless absolutely necessary.  They tend to prefer annual screening to prevent disease and pulling out to prevent pregnancy.<br />
Also, this is rather off topic, they include both typical use and perfect use numbers on the statistics for bcp&#8217;s they should do the same for abstinence.  That would put things in slightly better perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Taking Responsibility&#8221; at Faux Real</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;Taking Responsibility&#8221; at Faux Real</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 02:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the country, healthcare networks and opportunistic politicians are making it more difficult for even college students to access birth control, never mind that lower-income and poor women have to pay up to four times as much for reproductive [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Alyson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alyson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Umm, no. People who are well rested, well fed and well orgasmed are happier, healthier and more productive.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thank You!!  If you have no contraceptives at all, women&#039;s excuses for getting pregnant will be because of that.  If the contraceptives are highly priced, the same thing will happen.  I see nothing wrong with college students having discounted contraceptives.  
Face it, as time goes on, women are having sex at younger ages.  You cannot expect abstinence... you can hope for it and lecture about it, but I doubt it&#039;ll change much of anthing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Umm, no. People who are well rested, well fed and well orgasmed are happier, healthier and more productive.</p></blockquote>
<p>Thank You!!  If you have no contraceptives at all, women&#8217;s excuses for getting pregnant will be because of that.  If the contraceptives are highly priced, the same thing will happen.  I see nothing wrong with college students having discounted contraceptives.<br />
Face it, as time goes on, women are having sex at younger ages.  You cannot expect abstinence&#8230; you can hope for it and lecture about it, but I doubt it&#8217;ll change much of anthing.</p>
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		<title>By: tyro</title>
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		<dc:creator>tyro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are awesome in all kinds of ways, Cara.

I take the Pill (LoestrinFE, to be specific) because I came to my gyno just before I turned eighteen for erratic, long periods and found out I had an ovarian cyst the size of a softball.  It wasn&#039;t cancerous but it was damn close.  So after my surgery the gyno gave me the Pill to help keep my hormones in check, just in case.

Guess what?  I&#039;m still a virgin.  It&#039;s been about a year and a half.

Oh my fucking god!  I DIDN&#039;T go and jump the nearest hot guy because I was less likely to get pregnant!

I&#039;m sick and fucking tired of the &quot;irresponsible teenager&quot; meme.  It&#039;s a self-fulfilling prophecy--these kids are bombarded with messages from media, parents, politicians, even their own doctors that teenagers are too fucking stupid to make their own decisions, so they end up acting that way because that&#039;s what they&#039;ve been told that teenagers act like.  It&#039;s nauseating, and it&#039;s not fair.

Dammit, I have to go beat the hell out of something now.  Video game time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are awesome in all kinds of ways, Cara.</p>
<p>I take the Pill (LoestrinFE, to be specific) because I came to my gyno just before I turned eighteen for erratic, long periods and found out I had an ovarian cyst the size of a softball.  It wasn&#8217;t cancerous but it was damn close.  So after my surgery the gyno gave me the Pill to help keep my hormones in check, just in case.</p>
<p>Guess what?  I&#8217;m still a virgin.  It&#8217;s been about a year and a half.</p>
<p>Oh my fucking god!  I DIDN&#8217;T go and jump the nearest hot guy because I was less likely to get pregnant!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sick and fucking tired of the &#8220;irresponsible teenager&#8221; meme.  It&#8217;s a self-fulfilling prophecy&#8211;these kids are bombarded with messages from media, parents, politicians, even their own doctors that teenagers are too fucking stupid to make their own decisions, so they end up acting that way because that&#8217;s what they&#8217;ve been told that teenagers act like.  It&#8217;s nauseating, and it&#8217;s not fair.</p>
<p>Dammit, I have to go beat the hell out of something now.  Video game time!</p>
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		<title>By: Ms.Feasance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms.Feasance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a law student, and the SHC @ my school provides NuvaRing for slightly cheaper, but at the same time, they also provide Plan B--at a $5 markup on what the CVS down the street offers. Also, they&#039;ll let you pay cash for an HIV test (presumably so parents/billpayers [if you&#039;re lucky enough to have them, which most of the undergrads at my school do] don&#039;t find out), but if you buy any kind of BC or Emergency BC, it has to go on your student account, which says to me, &quot;Having sex? I&#039;m sending a bill/letter for it to your Mom and Dad, SLUT!&quot;


Also, it may have been a while since I went through a journalism class, but when did it become acceptable to attribute statements to &quot;some people&quot;? I thought you had to have a person--y&#039;know, the kind with a name--to cite as a source for something like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a law student, and the SHC @ my school provides NuvaRing for slightly cheaper, but at the same time, they also provide Plan B&#8211;at a $5 markup on what the CVS down the street offers. Also, they&#8217;ll let you pay cash for an HIV test (presumably so parents/billpayers [if you're lucky enough to have them, which most of the undergrads at my school do] don&#8217;t find out), but if you buy any kind of BC or Emergency BC, it has to go on your student account, which says to me, &#8220;Having sex? I&#8217;m sending a bill/letter for it to your Mom and Dad, SLUT!&#8221;</p>
<p>Also, it may have been a while since I went through a journalism class, but when did it become acceptable to attribute statements to &#8220;some people&#8221;? I thought you had to have a person&#8211;y&#8217;know, the kind with a name&#8211;to cite as a source for something like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Hermione Granger, PhD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Hermione Granger, PhD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would personally like to send a big hug to BCBS for not charging a copay on my monthly BC. I don&#039;t know why, if it has to do with the non-uni pharmacy or if they&#039;re feeling generous towards grad students, but that extra $10 a month (generic pills!) really helps feed my extravagant  Starbuck&#039;s purchases when I&#039;m trying to sit through lecture until 9pm after starting work at 9am. Heaven forbid I receive an education while awake.

Ditto to hating those patronizing &quot;don&#039;t buy fancy coffee if you want to pay off your loans&quot; articles. FUCK YOU guys. Do you know what would help me pay off those loans? &lt;em&gt;Not having 40K in loans plus interest in the first place&lt;/em&gt; perhaps? 

And speaking of patronizing... Hector, please STFU about birth control until the day it becomes possible for you to get pregnant. You may be a stand up guy who always brings and wears a condom, but not everyone is. Call me crazy, but I prefer to have sex without thinking &quot;oh god please don&#039;t break, please. Wait, is it still &lt;em&gt;on&lt;/em&gt;?&quot; and then hold my breath for however long till I get my period.  


random question- do schools provide the Nuvaring or Depo or any long term BC cheaply, if at all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would personally like to send a big hug to BCBS for not charging a copay on my monthly BC. I don&#8217;t know why, if it has to do with the non-uni pharmacy or if they&#8217;re feeling generous towards grad students, but that extra $10 a month (generic pills!) really helps feed my extravagant  Starbuck&#8217;s purchases when I&#8217;m trying to sit through lecture until 9pm after starting work at 9am. Heaven forbid I receive an education while awake.</p>
<p>Ditto to hating those patronizing &#8220;don&#8217;t buy fancy coffee if you want to pay off your loans&#8221; articles. FUCK YOU guys. Do you know what would help me pay off those loans? <em>Not having 40K in loans plus interest in the first place</em> perhaps? </p>
<p>And speaking of patronizing&#8230; Hector, please STFU about birth control until the day it becomes possible for you to get pregnant. You may be a stand up guy who always brings and wears a condom, but not everyone is. Call me crazy, but I prefer to have sex without thinking &#8220;oh god please don&#8217;t break, please. Wait, is it still <em>on</em>?&#8221; and then hold my breath for however long till I get my period.  </p>
<p>random question- do schools provide the Nuvaring or Depo or any long term BC cheaply, if at all?</p>
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		<title>By: Tapetum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tapetum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crap like this is a large part of why I have an IUD. My insurance may do anything in the next five years, but even if it goes ballistic on me now, at least pregnancy isn&#039;t an issue until 2012. Fortunately, my insurance as it currently stands covered the initial costs, which I gather a lot don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crap like this is a large part of why I have an IUD. My insurance may do anything in the next five years, but even if it goes ballistic on me now, at least pregnancy isn&#8217;t an issue until 2012. Fortunately, my insurance as it currently stands covered the initial costs, which I gather a lot don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: DDay</title>
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		<dc:creator>DDay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t know how many articles I’ve seen written by financial “experts” telling college and law students that it’s that morning cappucino, rather than the exorbitant cost of higher education, that’s keeping them from paying off debt (that’s not to say that $4 a day doesn’t add up — it’s $1460 in a year — but it pales in comparison to 10% yearly tuition increases, which necessitate taking out more money in loans. Besides, the “no Starbucks” advice assumes that you haven’t cut out other luxuries).

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

THANK YOU!  I am sick of people (one financial aid person in particular) telling me how I could really save money by skipping my daily latte and how these little costs add up.  Okay, I buy a coffee maybe once a month, so your tip means that I could save up to $40 a year.  Which is not exactly a large chuck of the $40k in student loans I have (which is relatively small for a person who just finished seven years of higher ed).  Secondly, can I look at your expenditures and tell you what you don&#039;t need, and as a result, lower your salary that my tutition helps pay for?

Finally, I would like to give a shout-out to my gyno office, who loaded me up with 6 months of bc samples when they learned that I don&#039;t currently have health insurance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don’t know how many articles I’ve seen written by financial “experts” telling college and law students that it’s that morning cappucino, rather than the exorbitant cost of higher education, that’s keeping them from paying off debt (that’s not to say that $4 a day doesn’t add up — it’s $1460 in a year — but it pales in comparison to 10% yearly tuition increases, which necessitate taking out more money in loans. Besides, the “no Starbucks” advice assumes that you haven’t cut out other luxuries).</p>
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<p>THANK YOU!  I am sick of people (one financial aid person in particular) telling me how I could really save money by skipping my daily latte and how these little costs add up.  Okay, I buy a coffee maybe once a month, so your tip means that I could save up to $40 a year.  Which is not exactly a large chuck of the $40k in student loans I have (which is relatively small for a person who just finished seven years of higher ed).  Secondly, can I look at your expenditures and tell you what you don&#8217;t need, and as a result, lower your salary that my tutition helps pay for?</p>
<p>Finally, I would like to give a shout-out to my gyno office, who loaded me up with 6 months of bc samples when they learned that I don&#8217;t currently have health insurance.</p>
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