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  1. Elisabeth
    Elisabeth December 8, 2007 at 10:36 pm |

    That’s spectacularly crappy of the Post. I hope they have to pay Claire’s moving costs.

  2. S.H.
    S.H. December 8, 2007 at 10:57 pm |

    breaking up Billy Crudup’s relationship with Mary-Louise Parker, his seven months-pregnant girlfriend

    There’s alot in this whole thing to be disgusted with (and I think Danes’ should take legal action), but I hate when people say shit like that. She broke up his relationship and I’m sure he was an innocent bystander to the whole damn thing. Added on to the Thurman “pin-up girl”comment, this guy is quite the misogynist pig.

  3. Meowser
    Meowser December 8, 2007 at 11:21 pm |

    and because we discovered that Parker Posey, our first choice, had moved out of town.

    Because of a stalker, perhaps?

    I agree, this is disgusting. There were ways to make the points in this story while disguising the identity and exact location of the “stalkee.”

  4. Cola Johnson
    Cola Johnson December 9, 2007 at 12:09 am |

    S.H. beat me to it. I hate the home-wrecker stereotype, especially since it’s something only women seem capable of doing. It’s just another way we rob women of their humanity in order to justify whatever we like.

    I have close, personal friends whose lives were nearly ruined by stalking. It’s not funny. It’s abhorrent and inhuman, and I can’t believe anyone would engage in this sort of behaviour, for any reason.

  5. Will
    Will December 9, 2007 at 12:14 am |

    Honestly, I’m not that bothered by it (the disclosure, not the assholish overtones to the writing). I don’t think anyone who is going to stalk Clare Danes is going to do it just because they saw a newspaper article on it. Nor are the instructions going to enable someone intent on stalking Danes to stalk her. The whole point of the article was that stalking is easy as pie to do. Assuming that the newspaper could be responsible for someone stalking Danes assumes:

    a) The person wouldn’t have tried to stalk Danes anyway, but was persuaded by a newspaper article that it was a good idea.
    b) The person wouldn’t have had the means or ingenuity that a newspaper reporter had to figure out how to stalk, but given instructions, was able to fulfill their latent desire to stalk Danes.

    Both of those assumptions seem pretty implausible to me. They just don’t fit my understanding of why and how people stalk. It’s like saying that we can’t criticize the war in Iraq because that emboldens the insurgents. OK, maybe at best dissent in the US makes an insurgent mildly happier. But suggesting that it causes any real difference in the way he or she behaves is spurious. Maybe at best this article makes it a little easier for someone already intent on stalking Danes to stalk her, but suggesting that it causes any real difference in whether he or she can stalk Danes is just as spurious.

  6. Sinfonian
    Sinfonian December 9, 2007 at 12:42 am |

    That’s spectacularly crappy of the Post. I hope they have to pay Claire’s moving costs.

    Not the Post … New York Press. Different, right?

    Added on to the Thurman “pin-up girl”comment, this guy is quite the misogynist pig.

    I don’t imagine the columnist, Becca Tucker, is a guy. Which makes the misogyny even more curious. Perhaps she studied self-loathing under the tutelage of Kathleen Parker.

  7. C. Roaches
    C. Roaches December 9, 2007 at 12:57 am |

    A stalker has used information found on the web to stalk my housemate and I for the past year. It’s been violent and disturbing and unfortunately the local police only have so much power to prevent future events.

    We were fortunate to have access to legal support and the stalker was sent to jail, once for an _entire_ month. Now that she’s out on bail, every time you leave the house you wonder if she’ll try to run you over (again).

    The editor of the New York Press is clearly a desperate SOB. What a disgusting approach to sell ads.

  8. you will moderate this out
    you will moderate this out December 9, 2007 at 1:17 am |

    Actually S.H. what disturbs be more is how your own sexism overrode your reading comprehension.

    “This guy is quite the misogynist pig”

    This guy is named “Becca Tucker.” I don’t know if you hate men, are just casually sexist, or a poor reader, but I think when you spot misogyny everywhere you lessen it to the point of meaninglessness.

    All that said, Becca Tucker is quite the idiot, isn’t she? I expect her to do well in journalism and predict we will be seeing more of her.

  9. paul
    paul December 9, 2007 at 1:30 am |

    Where to begin? I hate the idea of wishing something on anyone but on the off-chance the writer of that piece becomes famous enough to attract the attentions of the unbalanced (where were you December 8, 1980?), will she remember this stunt with pride in a job well done, shame at having perpetrated it, or fear at what she has contributed to?

    At the end of the piece, when the stalkers run their quarry to ground but can’t finish the job, Danes is gracious, more than they deserve. And for her trouble, she gets this article.

    Of all the stories in New York, this is the best they could come up with?

  10. paul
    paul December 9, 2007 at 1:32 am |

    aside to S.H. above: a woman wrote the piece, as far as the name Becca would indicate.

  11. Mike B.
    Mike B. December 9, 2007 at 1:34 am |

    NY Press has always been an embarrassment to the city, but this is beyond the pale. I’d wager that Danes has already contacted her lawyer, and good for her.

  12. Gene Gaudette
    Gene Gaudette December 9, 2007 at 1:36 am |

    The NY Press has long been a vehicle for Manhattan-based right-wing journalistic hooliganism. Not even worthy of fishwrap status since David Corn left.

  13. Homer J Simpson
    Homer J Simpson December 9, 2007 at 1:44 am |

    I believe that famous people have a debt to everyone. If celebrities didn’t want people pawing through their garbage and saying they’re gay, they shouldn’t have tried to express themselves creatively.

  14. Hank Essay
    Hank Essay December 9, 2007 at 2:00 am |

    To the person who left the first comment, this is not from the NYPost….this is from NYPress, a strange free independent newspaper made available on the streets of NYC….

  15. Shay
    Shay December 9, 2007 at 2:54 am |

    Paul–woman or not, she can still be sexist. I’d say the phrasing points to sexism.

  16. brendancalling
    brendancalling December 9, 2007 at 3:20 am |

    that is dusgusting behavior.

    where does rebecca tucker live? anyone have any pictures of her? what’s her phone number? where do her parents live? does she have any siblings?

    after all, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

  17. brendancalling
    brendancalling December 9, 2007 at 3:30 am |

    to speak withms tucker, simply call the NY Press at 212-268-8600, select “2” to dial by last name, then enter the last 3 digits of Ms. tucker’s name. You’ll immediately be transferred to her desk.
    ordinarily, I wouldn’t do this, since Tucker seems to think it’s OK to stalk people, I can’t see why she’d mind a few phone calls.

    just sayin’.

  18. Kynn
    Kynn December 9, 2007 at 3:30 am |

    You realize that if this were Michelle Malkin’s site, we’d already have dug up Becca Tucker’s address and been staking out her house, right?

    Thank goodness this isn’t. :/

  19. Torri
    Torri December 9, 2007 at 4:00 am |

    well so much for the optimistic hope that the article’s main theme would be about how easy it is to become a victim of stalking, what a serious matter it is and the issues in dealing with stalkers legally…
    *sigh* score one up for my growing cynicism.

  20. John ICEKNIFE
    John ICEKNIFE December 9, 2007 at 5:56 am |

    Bet I can find out where Becca Tucker lives in under a half hour.

  21. Kevin Lyda
    Kevin Lyda December 9, 2007 at 7:10 am |

    Disgusting. I’m not visiting the page – do people know some of the advertisers for the NY Press?

  22. Mick
    Mick December 9, 2007 at 8:12 am |

    not a problem here. No one reads the NY Press

  23. mr.ed
    mr.ed December 9, 2007 at 10:13 am |

    This faux “journalism” is lower than whaleshit.

  24. Em
    Em December 9, 2007 at 10:49 am |

    I wish I were a journalist. Then I could pretend to be a man, who is pretending to be Muslim woman, who gets to pretend to stalk Clair Danes!

    Reporters have all the fun.

  25. DrLaniac
    DrLaniac December 9, 2007 at 10:50 am |

    Will Says: Honestly, I’m not that bothered by it (the disclosure, not the assholish overtones to the writing). I don’t think anyone who is going to stalk Clare Danes is going to do it just because they saw a newspaper article on it. Nor are the instructions going to enable someone intent on stalking Danes to stalk her.

    Well, thank goodness for all of us that it was the reporter’s job to determine the relative risk to Ms. Danes security, rather than say, Ms. Danes. Otherwise, we’d have never gotten to the bottom of how easy it is to stalk someone. Especially with such helpful hints on how to do so.

    That Becca Tucker is soooo hot and she’s definitely into me….

  26. Phoenix Woman
    Phoenix Woman December 9, 2007 at 11:33 am |

    This is, of course, the same newspaper that in 1999 allowed Lucianne Goldberg to claim (without any sort of evidence) that Bill Clinton “finger-fucked” his own daughter Chelsea. http://www.salon.com/media/lehm/1999/01/28lehm.html

  27. Scooter
    Scooter December 9, 2007 at 12:58 pm |

    Claire Danes and I are exactly the same age, to the day.

  28. S.H.
    S.H. December 9, 2007 at 1:34 pm |

    This guy is named “Becca Tucker.” I don’t know if you hate men, are just casually sexist, or a poor reader, but I think when you spot misogyny everywhere you lessen it to the point of meaninglessness.

    You’re right I accidentally made the assumption the author was male, but jumping to I hate men is quite absurd (the insults are a bit over the top and not really needed to make your point but whatever), it’s rather I hate misogynists so this gal is a misogynistic pig. There, fixed. She calls one established actress a “pin up girl”, deems Danes a homewrecker and I don’t even get the Parker Posey reference. Plus at the end she writes that lucky it was only us crap, which to me is translated easily to “the bitch is askin for trouble”. (Ya know because she’s breathing and all). I’ll freely admit to the gender mistake but if this is not misogynistic bullshit I don’t know what is. It’s not gender specific, although that can be hard to swallow sometimes. I like to think women are above this kind of crap, but alas, no.

  29. PixelFish
    PixelFish December 9, 2007 at 1:50 pm |

    Yeah, the line about Danes being the homewrecker (hello, it takes TWO) definitely annoyed.

    I’d say there are several components to the stalker mentality which the reporter just DOESN’T get or she wouldn’t be blithely revealing all the efforts Danes goes through to keep her privacy. For her this article is a chance to say, “Look how smart I am. Smarter than Clare Danes.” (And I bet she has resources that the average person doesn’t have, what with reporter credentials and contacts.) For her it seems to be a game and she wants to win. Which is stupid because we are talking about a human life here, and dangerous behaviour. (It would have been sweetly ironic if she got picked up for stalking Danes.)

    But while the reporter may not share the compulsion that a stalker might, she certainly seems to share the entitled attitude that a stalker carries. How dare Danes get in the way of her story? How dare Danes try to maintain a semi-normal life?

    Finally, who is to say that Danes hasn’t had stalker problems before. Why isn’t that the first thing to pop into the reporter’s head? Seriously.

  30. Roddy McCorley
    Roddy McCorley December 9, 2007 at 1:56 pm |

    My wife, an attorney, was approached by someone who works at her gym. Woman has been married for years, yet some asshole boyfriend she had before that (don’t know how long before) is stalking her. She’s taken out restraining orders. He’s fighting one of them in court, which is why she needs an attorney. Her husband, it turns out, is a boxer. I said to my wife, “Maybe instead of paying you, her husband should just go beat the crap out of this guy.” Turns out the cops have told her something in a similar vein — the bailiff in the court where she got the restraining order advised her to get a gun.

    So, yeah, stalking not funny or whimsical. And that’s definitely as close to a situation like that as I ever want to come.

  31. dizzyjayne
    dizzyjayne December 9, 2007 at 2:01 pm |

    # Homer J Simpson Says:
    December 9th, 2007 at 1:44 am

    I believe that famous people have a debt to everyone. If celebrities didn’t want people pawing through their garbage and saying they’re gay, they shouldn’t have tried to express themselves creatively.

    *******
    Famous people do not have a debt to anyone. They have a job just like everyone else except their jobs put them in the limelight. There is a very big difference between Claire Danes and say, I don’t know, Britney Spears! Yes to an extent they have to expect to be photographed and what not, but there are plenty of celebrities that mind their own damn business and don’t put on a show for the cameras. It is those celebrities I have sympathy for. This is kind of an ignorant comment to make saying someone shouldn’t have tried to express themselves creatively… I say for the celebrities who do their jobs and maintain a low profile about it, leave ‘em the hell alone! If they are putting their business out there for the world to see (and I’m not talking putting their trash on the curb like everyone else) then I don’t really feel badly about the crap that gets published about them.

  32. S.H.
    S.H. December 9, 2007 at 2:17 pm |

    But while the reporter may not share the compulsion that a stalker might, she certainly seems to share the entitled attitude that a stalker carries. How dare Danes get in the way of her story? How dare Danes try to maintain a semi-normal life?

    I got that too, especially when she says “We we’re tired too. Tired of waiting”. Like Danes wasn’t playing her role as victim quite well enough and screwing up her stalker’s schedule. And then there’s this part, which explains alot…:

    “That was the closest I’d ever been to Claire Danes in the flesh. I never once laid eyes on her when we overlapped at Yale. Everyone else saw her all the time. Whenever I turned to look she had already disappeared into a crowd of pea coats. I didn’t much care.”

  33. SKM
    SKM December 9, 2007 at 2:23 pm |

    So, Danes went to Yale and is living her dream as a professional actress. Tucker went to Yale and now works as a reporter for the NY Press. But she’s not bitter!

    Talk about unintentional self-revelation…

  34. Jessie
    Jessie December 9, 2007 at 3:28 pm |

    Now, Becca Tucker is a reporter, no? Then she’s got to have a superior, a boss, someone who gives her the go-ahead on stories, or even comes up with what she’s going to write about. At the very least, she’s got to have an editor, or someone she’s got to run the story by before the story hits the press. Right?

    So blame Becca Tucker. But also blame her boss for letting such an embarrassment of a story go to press. I’m experiencing a bit of shadenfreude as I imagine the hell she has the carte blanche to wreak on the NY Press because of this story.

  35. Azundris
    Azundris December 9, 2007 at 4:02 pm |

    Thurman’s stalker threatened to kill himself

    Well, there you go, problem solved. I mean, is it me, or is that the most moronic threat ever? The terror of being stalked, versus getting closure and, if they do it in a nicely graphic way, a good party piece? Puh-lease.

  36. Cecily
    Cecily December 9, 2007 at 4:06 pm |

    I just wanted to differ with Cola in an early comment:

    I hate the home-wrecker stereotype, especially since it’s something only women seem capable of doing.

    I’m not sure I’ve seen the word attached to men, but the rage, yes. I wonder if women who date recently-broken-up men get accused of ‘stealing’ the way men do? It would at least make me feel a bit better if men, as well as women, were getting talked about as if they were diamond necklaces.

  37. Interrobang
    Interrobang December 9, 2007 at 4:24 pm |

    I have an ex who doesn’t quite seem to grok the fact that I don’t want to talk to him anymore. Every so often, he calls me, he e-mails me periodically, and once, he even called a couple of my friends (two different calls) to pump them for information about me. I dumped him three years ago (because he was a drug-abusing, misogynist ass who ended the relationship when he attempted to rape me), and the last “Hey, write me back and tell me how you are” e-mail I got from him was about two weeks ago. The last time I actually spoke to him on the phone, he spent the whole conversation trying to wheedle and bully me into giving him permission to come visit.

    If he lived closer to me than 12 hours’ drive away, I’d be seriously worried about him.

    Any article that presents stalking as yuk-yuk ironic hipsterism makes me skin my lips back from my teeth, frankly. Becca Tucker can stick it up her oh-so-cool demeanour and rotate.

  38. PhysioProf
    PhysioProf December 9, 2007 at 4:33 pm |

    NY Press has always been an embarrassment to the city, but this is beyond the pale.

    The NY Press was a moderately good paper with some excellent columnists while Russ Smith was still the editor, despite gaffes like the Lucianne Goldberg thing. One of the columnists that I really liked was the guy who wrote about his process of gradually going blind. Since he left, it’s been all downhill.

  39. simon
    simon December 9, 2007 at 4:44 pm |

    there is a name for lowlife’s that do this kind of thing. replace the ‘t’ in tucker… or think “rhymes with runts”
    unbelievable

  40. Ogre
    Ogre December 9, 2007 at 5:31 pm |

    So what I’m hearing is the sales person who sold you underware, brought your food to your table, coaches your kids sports, pumps your gas, gives you a paycheck, have a debt to you pay for working? Great thinking.

  41. Alex Swingle
    Alex Swingle December 9, 2007 at 5:31 pm |

    Press was great a few years ago when Jeff Koyen was Editor — they had Matt Taibbi, Mike Singorelie, Jim Knipfl on the staff in addition to a few others.

    They really ceased to have any sort of legitimacy when the hired Ed Koch to do a column.

  42. Becca.
    Becca. December 9, 2007 at 6:19 pm |

    It grosses me out that that “journalist” and I share a first name.

    It took a year before I could leave my house without fear after being stalked. The “tee-hee!” of that column makes me want to throw things.

  43. postxian
    postxian December 9, 2007 at 7:07 pm |

    This reporter stalked this woman. He should be prosecuted. It doesn’t matter why he did it. He did it.

  44. Linda
    Linda December 9, 2007 at 7:20 pm |

    Dizzyjayne,

    Homer’s comment was, I think, satire (and not-bad satire, either.)

  45. Cog
    Cog December 9, 2007 at 7:41 pm |

    Aren’t you just compounding this invasion of privacy? Now a bunch more idiots are saying to themselves “Gee,maybe I should try stalking Claire Danes.”
    Shame all around.

  46. Daisy
    Daisy December 9, 2007 at 8:24 pm |

    So, Danes went to Yale and is living her dream as a professional actress. Tucker went to Yale and now works as a reporter for the NY Press. But she’s not bitter!

    Talk about unintentional self-revelation…

    WOW, I thought the same thing! Is she pretending to stalk Danes, or pretending to be pretending?

    Shades of BASIC INSTINCT!

    (PS: This whole story is disgusting)

  47. AMERICAN NONSENSE » Midday open thread
    AMERICAN NONSENSE » Midday open thread December 9, 2007 at 10:01 pm |

    [...] New York Press had a reporter stalk Claire Danes and write an article about how easy it was. Feministe has details, and an email address in the event you think it’s as creepy as I do: [...]

  48. miguel
    miguel December 9, 2007 at 10:29 pm |

    The rich and famous have such horrible problems, poor them! I feel so sorry for them.

    or not

  49. roses
    roses December 9, 2007 at 11:12 pm |

    Homer’s comment was, I think, satire (and not-bad satire, either.)

    Satirical Simpsons quote, actually.

  50. Jennifer
    Jennifer December 10, 2007 at 2:16 am |

    Simon: “rhymes with runts”

  51. Jennifer
    Jennifer December 10, 2007 at 2:17 am |

    Simon: “there is a name for lowlife’s that do this kind of thing…rhymes with runts”

    Did you just allude to calling this low life of a woman a “cunt” on a feminist website? Seriously?

  52. Mnemosyne
    Mnemosyne December 10, 2007 at 12:04 pm |

    The rich and famous have such horrible problems, poor them! I feel so sorry for them.

    or not

    Yeah, those bitches Rebecca Schaeffer and Theresa Saldana got what they deserved for daring to be on TV, right? If you’re famous and you end up dead or injured because a stalker fixates on you, well, you shouldn’t have become an actress, dummy!
    /sarcasm, in case it wasn’t clear from the links.

  53. zuzu
    zuzu December 10, 2007 at 12:40 pm |

    What’s with the troll invasion on this thread?

  54. Jenna's Bush
    Jenna's Bush December 10, 2007 at 2:51 pm |

    I accidentally made the assumption

    Either you made an assumption or you didn’t. “Accidentally” or “On purpose” doesn’t make sense.

  55. New York Press and Stalking
    New York Press and Stalking December 10, 2007 at 4:18 pm |

    [...] Feministe had and excellent post on stalking yesterday.  A New York Press reporter decided “to go on a mission to stalk Claire Danes, in an effort to prove just how easy it is to stalk someone.” [...]

  56. Lynn Gazis-Sax
    Lynn Gazis-Sax December 10, 2007 at 4:49 pm |

    So, Danes went to Yale and is living her dream as a professional actress. Tucker went to Yale and now works as a reporter for the NY Press. But she’s not bitter!

    She’s establishing that she’s not so lacking in class as to normally need to stalk celebrities, because she went to Yale, you know, and is above all that. Except when it’s part of her job to turn stalkerazzi.

    I can’t say it’s exactly surprising that a reporter who lives in NYC can figure out, in a couple of days, where to find a celebrity who also lives in NYC. And I doubt it’s news to Danes that her privacy precautions can be punctured. It’s probably still worth it to her to follow them, if only to reduce the numbers of stalkerazzi who get through to her.

    To a large degree, all of us can be stalked nearly that easily, but the real time celebrity tracking web sites do provide extra distributed stalking assistance to those who want to stalk their subjects.

  57. Will
    Will December 10, 2007 at 5:47 pm |

    Will, the issue isn’t whether someone will stalk Claire Danes — the issue is that the article is an instruction manual for how to stalk anyone. And it makes stalking seem kind of entertaining, and like not a huge deal.

    Like I said, I’m as bothered as everyone else by the tone of the writing. I still don’t see the problems with “an instruction manual,” because I think anyone looking to stalk is perfectly capable of doing so with or without a “how to:” guide. The thesis of the article is that this stuff is easy to figure out. Add in that stalkers are dedicated, dedicated people, and I think it’s implausible that this article will cause even one extra person to be stalked.

    I absolutely agree that a tone that glorifies stalking is problematic. I think an article that included the same content but framed it differently would probably be ok, though.

  58. Morton Thiokol
    Morton Thiokol December 11, 2007 at 1:11 am |

    For the record, the NYPress article didn’t expose any handy stalking methods, that any determined stalker wasn’t already aware of. That said, I can’t believe the editors actually considered this junk to be worthy of print. Might as well be snuff porn. Inexcusable.

  59. dhex
    dhex December 11, 2007 at 12:13 pm |

    too bad nyc shits all over the 2nd amendment.

  60. helen boyd
    helen boyd December 16, 2007 at 2:27 am |

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