Comments on: Stalking 101, courtesy of the New York Press http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/12/08/stalking-101-courtesy-of-the-new-york-press/ In defense of the sanctimonious women's studies set. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:50:52 +0000 hourly 1 By: helen boyd http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/12/08/stalking-101-courtesy-of-the-new-york-press/#comment-142509 helen boyd Sun, 16 Dec 2007 06:27:33 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/12/08/stalking-101-courtesy-of-the-new-york-press/#comment-142509 <a href="http://www.myhusbandbetty.com/?p=1812" rel="nofollow">Even More Decline of New York</a> Even More Decline of New York

]]> By: dhex http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/12/08/stalking-101-courtesy-of-the-new-york-press/#comment-141907 dhex Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:13:07 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/12/08/stalking-101-courtesy-of-the-new-york-press/#comment-141907 too bad nyc shits all over the 2nd amendment. too bad nyc shits all over the 2nd amendment.

]]> By: Morton Thiokol http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/12/08/stalking-101-courtesy-of-the-new-york-press/#comment-141813 Morton Thiokol Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:11:21 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/12/08/stalking-101-courtesy-of-the-new-york-press/#comment-141813 For the record, the NYPress article didn't expose any handy stalking methods, that any determined stalker wasn't already aware of. That said, I can't believe the editors actually considered this junk to be worthy of print. Might as well be snuff porn. Inexcusable. For the record, the NYPress article didn’t expose any handy stalking methods, that any determined stalker wasn’t already aware of. That said, I can’t believe the editors actually considered this junk to be worthy of print. Might as well be snuff porn. Inexcusable.

]]> By: Will http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/12/08/stalking-101-courtesy-of-the-new-york-press/#comment-141544 Will Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:47:44 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/12/08/stalking-101-courtesy-of-the-new-york-press/#comment-141544 <blockquote>Will, the issue isn’t whether someone will stalk Claire Danes — the issue is that the article is an instruction manual for how to stalk anyone. And it makes stalking seem kind of entertaining, and like not a huge deal.</blockquote> Like I said, I'm as bothered as everyone else by the tone of the writing. I still don't see the problems with "an instruction manual," because I think anyone looking to stalk is perfectly capable of doing so with or without a "how to:" guide. The thesis of the article is that this stuff is easy to figure out. Add in that stalkers are dedicated, dedicated people, and I think it's implausible that this article will cause even one extra person to be stalked. I absolutely agree that a tone that glorifies stalking is problematic. I think an article that included the same content but framed it differently would probably be ok, though.

Will, the issue isn’t whether someone will stalk Claire Danes — the issue is that the article is an instruction manual for how to stalk anyone. And it makes stalking seem kind of entertaining, and like not a huge deal.

Like I said, I’m as bothered as everyone else by the tone of the writing. I still don’t see the problems with “an instruction manual,” because I think anyone looking to stalk is perfectly capable of doing so with or without a “how to:” guide. The thesis of the article is that this stuff is easy to figure out. Add in that stalkers are dedicated, dedicated people, and I think it’s implausible that this article will cause even one extra person to be stalked.

I absolutely agree that a tone that glorifies stalking is problematic. I think an article that included the same content but framed it differently would probably be ok, though.

]]> By: Jill http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/12/08/stalking-101-courtesy-of-the-new-york-press/#comment-141513 Jill Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:57:34 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/12/08/stalking-101-courtesy-of-the-new-york-press/#comment-141513 <blockquote>What’s with the troll invasion on this thread?</blockquote> Links from Atrios and DKos. That'll do it.

What’s with the troll invasion on this thread?

Links from Atrios and DKos. That’ll do it.

]]> By: Lynn Gazis-Sax http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/12/08/stalking-101-courtesy-of-the-new-york-press/#comment-141505 Lynn Gazis-Sax Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:49:34 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/12/08/stalking-101-courtesy-of-the-new-york-press/#comment-141505 <blockquote>So, Danes went to Yale and is living her dream as a professional actress. Tucker went to Yale and now works as a reporter for the NY Press. But she’s not bitter! </blockquote> She's establishing that she's not so lacking in class as to <em>normally</em> need to stalk celebrities, because she went to Yale, you know, and is above all that. Except when it's part of her job to turn stalkerazzi. I can't say it's exactly surprising that a reporter who lives in NYC can figure out, in a couple of days, where to find a celebrity who also lives in NYC. And I doubt it's news to Danes that her privacy precautions can be punctured. It's probably still worth it to her to follow them, if only to reduce the numbers of stalkerazzi who get through to her. To a large degree, all of us can be stalked nearly that easily, but the real time celebrity tracking web sites do provide extra distributed stalking assistance to those who want to stalk their subjects.

So, Danes went to Yale and is living her dream as a professional actress. Tucker went to Yale and now works as a reporter for the NY Press. But she’s not bitter!

She’s establishing that she’s not so lacking in class as to normally need to stalk celebrities, because she went to Yale, you know, and is above all that. Except when it’s part of her job to turn stalkerazzi.

I can’t say it’s exactly surprising that a reporter who lives in NYC can figure out, in a couple of days, where to find a celebrity who also lives in NYC. And I doubt it’s news to Danes that her privacy precautions can be punctured. It’s probably still worth it to her to follow them, if only to reduce the numbers of stalkerazzi who get through to her.

To a large degree, all of us can be stalked nearly that easily, but the real time celebrity tracking web sites do provide extra distributed stalking assistance to those who want to stalk their subjects.

]]> By: New York Press and Stalking http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/12/08/stalking-101-courtesy-of-the-new-york-press/#comment-141487 New York Press and Stalking Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:18:01 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/12/08/stalking-101-courtesy-of-the-new-york-press/#comment-141487 [...] Feministe had and excellent post on stalking yesterday.  A New York Press reporter decided “to go on a mission to stalk Claire Danes, in an effort to prove just how easy it is to stalk someone.” [...] [...] Feministe had and excellent post on stalking yesterday.  A New York Press reporter decided “to go on a mission to stalk Claire Danes, in an effort to prove just how easy it is to stalk someone.” [...]

]]> By: Jenna's Bush http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/12/08/stalking-101-courtesy-of-the-new-york-press/#comment-141446 Jenna's Bush Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:51:00 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/12/08/stalking-101-courtesy-of-the-new-york-press/#comment-141446 <em>I accidentally made the assumption </em> Either you made an assumption or you didn't. "Accidentally" or "On purpose" doesn't make sense. I accidentally made the assumption

Either you made an assumption or you didn’t. “Accidentally” or “On purpose” doesn’t make sense.

]]> By: zuzu http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/12/08/stalking-101-courtesy-of-the-new-york-press/#comment-141398 zuzu Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:40:51 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/12/08/stalking-101-courtesy-of-the-new-york-press/#comment-141398 What's with the troll invasion on this thread? What’s with the troll invasion on this thread?

]]> By: Mnemosyne http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/12/08/stalking-101-courtesy-of-the-new-york-press/#comment-141388 Mnemosyne Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:04:09 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/12/08/stalking-101-courtesy-of-the-new-york-press/#comment-141388 <blockquote>The rich and famous have such horrible problems, poor them! I feel so sorry for them. or not</blockquote> Yeah, those bitches <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Schaeffer" rel="nofollow">Rebecca Schaeffer</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theresa_Saldana" rel="nofollow">Theresa Saldana</a> got what they deserved for daring to be on TV, right? If you're famous and you end up dead or injured because a stalker fixates on you, well, you shouldn't have become an actress, dummy! /sarcasm, in case it wasn't clear from the links.

The rich and famous have such horrible problems, poor them! I feel so sorry for them.

or not

Yeah, those bitches Rebecca Schaeffer and Theresa Saldana got what they deserved for daring to be on TV, right? If you’re famous and you end up dead or injured because a stalker fixates on you, well, you shouldn’t have become an actress, dummy!
/sarcasm, in case it wasn’t clear from the links.

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