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  1. Orodemniades
    Orodemniades December 10, 2007 at 3:11 pm |

    WTFFis the world coming to??

    WTFF is it in men that makes them think that women are still property?

    WTFF is it in women that they don’t recognize these men for who they are?

    My friend nearly died at the hands of her boyfriend and I still don’t understand wth was going through her mind during their relationship (although she did tell me that it was only as he was sitting on her chest, hands around her neck, choking her, that she realized she didn’t love him any more…)…

    Please, can someone explain this to me?

  2. Cara
    Cara December 10, 2007 at 6:16 pm |

    Many things can be going throw an abuse victim’s mind, Orodemniades:

    I deserve this, this is how all relationships are, I can’t do any better, I don’t want to be alone, I love him, I have nowhere to go, my family will think I’m a failure if I don’t make this work, I won’t be able to support my kids without him . . . and I’m afraid he might try to shoot me to death if I leave. [For the record, it's a very sadly valid fear: abusive men are more likely to kill or attempt to kill a woman who has left him than a woman who is still in the relationship.]

    The only part you really need to understand though is that the abuser is the one always at fault, and his are the motivations we need to be questioning. Not the victim’s.

  3. Orodemniades
    Orodemniades December 10, 2007 at 6:23 pm |

    Oh yeah, the more we (friends and family) found out about him, the more befuddled we became. However, in this instance, it is clear that my friend’s…issues…clearly stem from her family. Let’s just say that as the second child, and lacking a penis and the firstborn, she is not, uh, valued the way most people would think a child should be valued.

    cough

    Yeah, that’s it.

  4. Shayne
    Shayne December 10, 2007 at 6:26 pm |

    When I read this article, all I got was a man shot his girlfriend then shot a 7 year old girl who tried to stop him. What a beautifully brave little girl.

    What in the hell else is there to say?

  5. Shayne
    Shayne December 10, 2007 at 6:32 pm |

    And thank you, Cara. It’s the abuser at fault, not the victim’s.

  6. Mike
    Mike December 10, 2007 at 6:44 pm |

    Hopefully, the family will be living in a mansion after they sue the ass off that piece of shit 911 operator.

    But… there’s something fishy here. A pointblank 9mm bullet would go right through a kid’s body. In other words, if the kid was between the mother and the gun, all six bullets — assuming they didn’t ricochet off of bone — would still have hit the mother. There are more facts to come out. This story isn’t over.

  7. Mike
    Mike December 10, 2007 at 9:13 pm |

    Which is exactly what I meant. Buddha.

  8. Mike
    Mike December 10, 2007 at 10:03 pm |

    No, I fully believe that the guy shot the two of them. It’s the details that are strange.

    And the Buddha thing was snark. You said Christ, I said Buddha.

  9. Shayne
    Shayne December 10, 2007 at 10:14 pm |

    I got the same sense, Jill, on both counts.

    Ya know, you’d think people would applaud that a seven year would be that heroic and protective. But I got a fair different sense from some of those comments on that article.

    That’s why I only posted what I said in my first post. I hadn’t the words for what others were saying. Still don’t have them.

  10. preying mantis
    preying mantis December 11, 2007 at 9:43 am |

    “But… there’s something fishy here. A pointblank 9mm bullet would go right through a kid’s body. In other words, if the kid was between the mother and the gun, all six bullets — assuming they didn’t ricochet off of bone — would still have hit the mother. There are more facts to come out. This story isn’t over.”

    You know, I spent all of a minute thinking about this, and seriously?

    A) It’s very difficult to tell what a bullet is necessarily going to do once it hits something as inconsistent in density as a human body.

    B) Since most of the bullets appear to have struck her in the head without killing her or leaving her in extremely critical condition, it seems to be a reasonable assumption, just from reading the quoted part in the post, that many if not all of the bullets did in fact ricochet off bone. The update in the linked post says the little girl needed pins in the wounded arm, so it sounds like that bullet struck bone as well.

    C) It’s also hardly a given that a bullet that had originally been on target to hit the mother would have been on the same trajectory upon exit (see A).

    D) This is before we get to the possibility of a bullet which would have gone stray striking the child as she went to defend her mother.

    The fact that the mom needed to go back to the emergency room for treatment of the arm that still had a bullet in it after sitting up with her daughter in the hospital makes me wonder what kind of monster medical bills the family is going to be facing after this.

  11. Cara
    Cara December 11, 2007 at 3:56 pm |

    I read the comments solely to say, “Jesus Christ. That poor baby.”

    And then there’s this:

    But… there’s something fishy here. A pointblank 9mm bullet would go right through a kid’s body. In other words, if the kid was between the mother and the gun, all six bullets — assuming they didn’t ricochet off of bone — would still have hit the mother. There are more facts to come out. This story isn’t over.

    For heaven’s sake, Mike. What the hell ARE you trying to say? If you have forensics expertise there must be some REASON for you to comment about the shots, some conclusion you think should be drawn.

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