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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/01/15/whoda-thunk-it/#comment-151693</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one reason they might buy more is the growers will tell you all the ways you can cook the veg, introduce you to new veg you&#039;re unfamiliar with, suggest something to go with it... I call the supermarket the &#039;STUPORmarket&#039; because I get there and all thoughts of what I could cook with the food leave my head immediately and I wander around trying to make sense of it all...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one reason they might buy more is the growers will tell you all the ways you can cook the veg, introduce you to new veg you&#8217;re unfamiliar with, suggest something to go with it&#8230; I call the supermarket the &#8216;STUPORmarket&#8217; because I get there and all thoughts of what I could cook with the food leave my head immediately and I wander around trying to make sense of it all&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Feministe » Dear Megan McArdle,</title>
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		<dc:creator>Feministe » Dear Megan McArdle,</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 04:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sound totally crazy, but if you give people access to fresh, healthy food they can actually afford, they&#8217;ll buy fresh, healthy food. If you give them $3 a day, they&#8217;ll buy ramen and frozen fish [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] sound totally crazy, but if you give people access to fresh, healthy food they can actually afford, they&#8217;ll buy fresh, healthy food. If you give them $3 a day, they&#8217;ll buy ramen and frozen fish [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Marksman2000</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/01/15/whoda-thunk-it/#comment-147149</link>
		<dc:creator>Marksman2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 03:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;$10 a month for Fruits and Veggies. $10 a month! Are they fucking kidding me! Have they tried to buy a freaking cucumber lately? Or a tomato? There, there is your $10 a mont on like, two things! &lt;/strong&gt;

Impossible. Vegetables are very inexpensive because they&#039;re picked by undocumented workers underpaid and exploited by big industry. This keeps the prices way down, see. If we paid them a fair wage, only then would prices soar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>$10 a month for Fruits and Veggies. $10 a month! Are they fucking kidding me! Have they tried to buy a freaking cucumber lately? Or a tomato? There, there is your $10 a mont on like, two things! </strong></p>
<p>Impossible. Vegetables are very inexpensive because they&#8217;re picked by undocumented workers underpaid and exploited by big industry. This keeps the prices way down, see. If we paid them a fair wage, only then would prices soar.</p>
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		<title>By: ethyl</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/01/15/whoda-thunk-it/#comment-147118</link>
		<dc:creator>ethyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The only problem I see in our area is that the farmer’s market is hard to get to.&quot;

I commented on this, too.  I&#039;m sure a lot of it is that the areas with big open spaces for stalls to be set up in tend to be away from population centers.  I wonder how hard/expensive it would be to start up some kind of shuttle service for this.  Hmm....~musing~....you&#039;d need maybe a big van, and some fliers, and lots of time on a Saturday morning...  What do you guys think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The only problem I see in our area is that the farmer’s market is hard to get to.&#8221;</p>
<p>I commented on this, too.  I&#8217;m sure a lot of it is that the areas with big open spaces for stalls to be set up in tend to be away from population centers.  I wonder how hard/expensive it would be to start up some kind of shuttle service for this.  Hmm&#8230;.~musing~&#8230;.you&#8217;d need maybe a big van, and some fliers, and lots of time on a Saturday morning&#8230;  What do you guys think?</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our local farmer&#039;s market accepts WIC vouchers. As someone who was one WIC once and always wondered what I should be doing with all those carrots, I thought this was great. Not only for the recipients, but also for the farmers--our area, like many, is in danger of losing its local farms to development. The only problem I see in our area is that the farmer&#039;s market is hard to get to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our local farmer&#8217;s market accepts WIC vouchers. As someone who was one WIC once and always wondered what I should be doing with all those carrots, I thought this was great. Not only for the recipients, but also for the farmers&#8211;our area, like many, is in danger of losing its local farms to development. The only problem I see in our area is that the farmer&#8217;s market is hard to get to.</p>
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		<title>By: louise</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/01/15/whoda-thunk-it/#comment-146958</link>
		<dc:creator>louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 12:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Local.com allows for searching via your zip code etc for a list of farmers markets near you- I just tried it and it brought up both of the ones I know of...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Local.com allows for searching via your zip code etc for a list of farmers markets near you- I just tried it and it brought up both of the ones I know of&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Aura Kitten</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/01/15/whoda-thunk-it/#comment-146942</link>
		<dc:creator>Aura Kitten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 08:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... and yet I still get terrible looks -- and at times, comments -- from customers and cashiers when I have them ring up my organic mango, blueberries, bananas, and whole wheat flour on food stamps.

:P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; and yet I still get terrible looks &#8212; and at times, comments &#8212; from customers and cashiers when I have them ring up my organic mango, blueberries, bananas, and whole wheat flour on food stamps.</p>
<p>:P</p>
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		<title>By: brandann</title>
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		<dc:creator>brandann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not to mention that when i was on WIC i couldn&#039;t get soy products...and was chastised for being vegetarian...seems kinda shady that you can&#039;t get soy when so much of the nation is lactose intolerant...roughly 70% of african americans and about 97% of asian americans...but i don&#039;t know if it is still that way...if it is, it needs to change, now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not to mention that when i was on WIC i couldn&#8217;t get soy products&#8230;and was chastised for being vegetarian&#8230;seems kinda shady that you can&#8217;t get soy when so much of the nation is lactose intolerant&#8230;roughly 70% of african americans and about 97% of asian americans&#8230;but i don&#8217;t know if it is still that way&#8230;if it is, it needs to change, now.</p>
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		<title>By: flippantangel</title>
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		<dc:creator>flippantangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the article &lt;i&gt;It’s not clear why mothers visiting a farmers’ market wound up buying more vegetables than grocery store shoppers,&lt;/i&gt;

Whoever wrote that clearly has zero experience with grocery stores in less affluent neighborhoods--The Safeway across from my house routinely stocks produce that&#039;s rotten, moldy, inedible, etc. No surprise that if you go someplace that has edible produce--you&#039;ll eat more of it. 

I&#039;m happy to read about this, but every time I go to the grocery store I think there&#039;s a real need for dramatic changes in WIC. About half the people shopping at my grocery store use it, and it seems to have been deliberately designed to humiliate them and make going to store a pain for them and everyone else. Why, when we have EBT for foodstamps, does WIC still force people to run 3 paper checks through the machine and get a manager&#039;s sign off? Why does it require low-income women to buy fruit juice we know is bad for baby&#039;s teeth? Why doesn&#039;t it discriminate between brands of cereal/juice and whether they&#039;re on sale or not--Shouldn&#039;t we let women who are savvy and buy the sale cereal or the store brand keep the price difference, encouraging them to learn smart budgeting long term? I DON&#039;T begrudge these women the assistance--we should help them more--but couldn&#039;t the program be made to work better for them and everyone else? 

Btw, for people complaining about produce prices: Store brand frozen veggies are a great, often more affordable, option that lasts longer and is no less healthy than fresh. $10 is still too little, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the article <i>It’s not clear why mothers visiting a farmers’ market wound up buying more vegetables than grocery store shoppers,</i></p>
<p>Whoever wrote that clearly has zero experience with grocery stores in less affluent neighborhoods&#8211;The Safeway across from my house routinely stocks produce that&#8217;s rotten, moldy, inedible, etc. No surprise that if you go someplace that has edible produce&#8211;you&#8217;ll eat more of it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m happy to read about this, but every time I go to the grocery store I think there&#8217;s a real need for dramatic changes in WIC. About half the people shopping at my grocery store use it, and it seems to have been deliberately designed to humiliate them and make going to store a pain for them and everyone else. Why, when we have EBT for foodstamps, does WIC still force people to run 3 paper checks through the machine and get a manager&#8217;s sign off? Why does it require low-income women to buy fruit juice we know is bad for baby&#8217;s teeth? Why doesn&#8217;t it discriminate between brands of cereal/juice and whether they&#8217;re on sale or not&#8211;Shouldn&#8217;t we let women who are savvy and buy the sale cereal or the store brand keep the price difference, encouraging them to learn smart budgeting long term? I DON&#8217;T begrudge these women the assistance&#8211;we should help them more&#8211;but couldn&#8217;t the program be made to work better for them and everyone else? </p>
<p>Btw, for people complaining about produce prices: Store brand frozen veggies are a great, often more affordable, option that lasts longer and is no less healthy than fresh. $10 is still too little, though.</p>
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		<title>By: ethyl</title>
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		<dc:creator>ethyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the article:
&quot;It’s not clear why mothers visiting a farmers’ market wound up buying more vegetables than grocery store shoppers...&quot;

Duh...because the prices at farmer&#039;s markets are WAY lower than at the supermarket, and you can get a whole helluva lot more produce for your $10.  F&#039;rinstance, you can buy a 2-lb acorn squash at the grocery store for maybe $3, but could probably get one for a buck a piece at the farmer&#039;s market.  Savings go way up when considering something like fresh herbs, which might be a splurge at the grocery store (maybe $1.99 a bunch) but might be 2 bunches for a dollar at the farmer&#039;s market.  

I wish the farmer&#039;s markets around here were easier to get to, though.  The ones I know of are not located where the people who could really use high-quality, fresh food are located.  (F&#039;rinstance, the only one that is remotely located where people in need could access it -- at the Food Bank/WIC office -- only operates twice a year!)

On the plus side, farmer&#039;s markets in New York State are able to accept food stamps despite the move from paper stamps to a &quot;debit card&quot; style of system.  At the market I go to, I&#039;d say around 80% of the stalls have &quot;We Accept EBT&quot; signs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the article:<br />
&#8220;It’s not clear why mothers visiting a farmers’ market wound up buying more vegetables than grocery store shoppers&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Duh&#8230;because the prices at farmer&#8217;s markets are WAY lower than at the supermarket, and you can get a whole helluva lot more produce for your $10.  F&#8217;rinstance, you can buy a 2-lb acorn squash at the grocery store for maybe $3, but could probably get one for a buck a piece at the farmer&#8217;s market.  Savings go way up when considering something like fresh herbs, which might be a splurge at the grocery store (maybe $1.99 a bunch) but might be 2 bunches for a dollar at the farmer&#8217;s market.  </p>
<p>I wish the farmer&#8217;s markets around here were easier to get to, though.  The ones I know of are not located where the people who could really use high-quality, fresh food are located.  (F&#8217;rinstance, the only one that is remotely located where people in need could access it &#8212; at the Food Bank/WIC office &#8212; only operates twice a year!)</p>
<p>On the plus side, farmer&#8217;s markets in New York State are able to accept food stamps despite the move from paper stamps to a &#8220;debit card&#8221; style of system.  At the market I go to, I&#8217;d say around 80% of the stalls have &#8220;We Accept EBT&#8221; signs.</p>
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