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    D.N. Nation 1.23.2008 at 2:19 pm |

    There has been muttering in various parts of the internet about how some of the objections to Hillary Clinton’s presidential bid might be sexist in nature. This hypothesis should be experimentally verifiable. In most elections, the people who actually run for office are generally not people’s first choice. So for those who maintain that they have nothing against women presidents in general, but object to Senator Clinton in particular, I ask this question:
    What women would you endorse for president, were they to enter the race tomorrow.

    Wouldn’t this thought experiment work better if there were a larger base of famous female political leaders to choose from? THAT’s where the sexism comes in, not when I say that Run H.R.C. is too authoritarian to avoid a ’10 backlash.

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    FashionablyEvil 1.23.2008 at 2:32 pm |

    Matt Blunt=governor of Missouri

    (Mississippi has their own anti-choice gov, Haley Barbour)

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    FashionablyEvil 1.23.2008 at 2:43 pm |

    And that Atlantic article is great

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    Isaac 1.23.2008 at 6:37 pm |

    I like the one about opposing domestic violence leading to the breakdown of families because it reminds me of how Canada was shamed into removing the US and Israel from the list of countries that torture. It’s not torture in violation of international laws and basic human decency that is bad for international relations, but rather embarrassing torturers that is bad. Similiarly, it’s not abusive spouses who break up families, but rather nosy jerks who tell women that they are people and shouldn’t be abused.

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    Isaac 1.23.2008 at 6:44 pm |

    D.N. Nation:

    There are currently 8 women governors and 16 female senators in the US. There is obvious sexism in the fact that these numbers aren’t closer to 25 and 50 respectively, but there are still a number of potential candidates. Another issue is the fact that outside of Clinton, very few of these women are known nationally.

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    Cara 1.23.2008 at 8:27 pm |

    To answer the Chuck question (because I can’t comment on his site without using a blogger login): Barbara Boxer and Louise Slaughter, off the top of my head. I’m sure that there are many other intelligent, progressive and qualified women who, like Isaac says, I just don’t currently know enough about to endorse but would given the chance.

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    Cara 1.23.2008 at 8:34 pm |

    Also, Mitt Romney IS SO NOT HOT. Ew ew ew ew ew. So the thong is not only sexist and disgusting on concept alone, it’s also very, very false. Unless we’re working under a scenario where the Republican presidential candidates were the last men on earth. And then, I would probably either start seeing women or form a very close relationship with a vibrator. Not do or even look at Mitt Romney. Ew. *shudders*

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    Jay 1.23.2008 at 9:04 pm |

    At the risk of bringing down a hail of fire on my head, I have to say that I have my doubts about the validity or utility of fibromyalgia as a diagnosis. The symptoms are valid – the pain is real and deserves attention and treatment. And I recognize that the biomedical/scientific model is not the only way to understand health and disease. But within the biomedical/scientific model, the disease definition does not stand up to scrutiny.

    OUTSIDE of the biomedical model, I can think of a great many reasons why people have pain and sleep disturbance, and many of them aren’t physiologically based. That doesn’t mean the pain is “made up”, or “in her head”, or anything else. The pain is real, but the cause may not lie in the body. We’re so mired in the biomedical that we have to shoehorn every kind of suffering into the same box. That doesn’t serve anybody well, least of all the people who are in pain.

    Lyrica, the medication recently approved for fibromyalgia, has been available for several years. I use it regularly to treat chronic pain. The approval doesn’t change anything for patients and doctors; a medication can be used for any indication once it’s approved, no matter what the original indication*. The primary beneficiaries of the new approval will be Pfizer. Lyrica is currently a second- or third-tier drug on many formularies, because it’s expensive and there’s no evidence that it’s better than an older drug that’s now available as a generic medication (gabapentin).

    Are there lots of people out there experiencing real suffering? Yes. Are they often inappropriately dismissed by physicians, especially when those suffering are women? Yes.Will some of them benefit from Lyrica? Yes. Are they suffering from a distinct physiological syndrome that can be described as fibromyalgia? Not in my opinion.

    *The only exception to the rule that a licensed doc can prescribe any approved drug is methadone, which I am not allowed to prescribe for its approved indication. But that’s another rant.

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    Chuck 1.23.2008 at 10:37 pm |

    DH,
    The under-representation of women in elected office is not news. But how can progress even begin if we can’t start imaging some of them in the top job?

    Even so, the depletion factor of women in politics is only a factor of three over even, so the odds of an unbiased top 20 list being all-male is fairly low.

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    Antigone 1.23.2008 at 10:59 pm |

    I’m going to seond (or third) Barbara Boxer. I would vote for her in a heartbeat.

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    Interrobang 1.23.2008 at 11:33 pm |

    Jay, if the cause isn’t in the body, where is it? Seriously, there isn’t anything that doesn’t come from the body that affects health. Even your state of mind is, in a very real way, caused by something in your body — namely, the functioning of the brain. You seem to either be implying that what we’re currently calling fibromyalgia is psychological, in which case it should be treated the same way as other mental illnesses (which themselves often have a biological or biochemical basis), or it’s supernatural, in which case, you’ve got a daunting standard of evidence to meet.

    I’m particularly curious about this one, because I have a (middle-aged male) friend with fibro (diagnosed by five specialists) and I’m wondering if I don’t have it myself. The best description I’ve heard yet for fibro and it’s physical effects (which include more than just sleep disturbances and pain, like inflammation of the soft tissues around the joints) is “fibro is to the soft tissues what rheumatoid arthritis is to the bones,” and there’s some speculation as to whether the two conditions are linked. (Another possible diagnosis for the as-yet-undiagnosed thing that’s going on with me is early RA, for what it’s worth.)

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    Jay 1.24.2008 at 9:33 am |

    Interrobang, I don’t know where it is. I’m open to the idea that there’s a physiological disruption we don’t yet fully understand, or that it’s “psychological”. I don’t know. Nobody really knows. So there’s no way to treat the underlying cause and eliminate the problem. Once I’ve ruled out things like RA and other conditions with disease-modifying treatments available, I can confidently treat the symptoms – and I do.

    I’m not sure what you mean by treating it “the same way as other mental illnesses”. There’s no standard effective way to approach all the things we call “mental illness”; again, we treat the symptoms as best we can.

    There are deep, complex connections between the mind and the body and the emotions that we don’t fully understand. I’m OK with not understanding. The suffering is real, even if I don’t fully understand the cause, and I will intervene with that as best I can.

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    CBrachyrhynchos 1.24.2008 at 9:54 am |

    Off the top of my head, I’d be more fond Pelosi, and I’d love another LaDuke run.

    With unitards accepted in the Olympic competitions, that story was rather irritating.

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    Yvonne Fulbright 1.24.2008 at 11:00 am |

    Hi Jill – Somebody randomly sent me your “10 Reasons Why the Fight for Reproductive Justice Is Still Essential”, not knowing that we know each other and I was so psyched to see your name! Outstanding article – I’ve alway been so impressed with your thinking and efforts. Drop me an email and let me know the latest with you when you can! Yvonne

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    D.N. Nation 1.24.2008 at 12:49 pm |

    For whatever it’s worth, I think Shirley Franklin (Atlanta mayor) would make a fine enough candidate. Loads better than Ghouliani if we were to tap the mayor pool.

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    annalouise 1.24.2008 at 1:50 pm |

    I love and admire Shirley Franklin. We could really use someone like her in Detroit. What is we were willing to trade a million gallons of Great Lakes water for 1 year of Shirley Franklin as our mayor?
    Water we got, forward thinking leadership, not so much.

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    D.N. Nation 1.24.2008 at 3:43 pm |

    Thanks for the offer, but we got some rain this week. Snow, too!

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    Sean 1.24.2008 at 4:41 pm |

    Kathleen Sebelius!!! Governor of Kansas. I’ve spoke of her before. She’ll be doing the Democratic response to the state of the union so the whole nation will be exposed to her greatness. She doesn’t have Obama’s oratory prowess, but I love, love, love her.

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