I challenge you to take one month and pray one solitary prayer silently before Jesus in a Catholic Church in front of The Blessed Sacrament: “Jesus: I trust in Thee.” See what happens. Don’t talk; just be silent. I dare you. To be a true feminist is to be truly feminie by imitating His Blessed Mother.

We can all shoot our mouths off; that is nothing more than a cannon without a cannonball.

Are you SURE about what you are talking about?

Humility vs. arrogance.

God Bless you.

I told her I was a happy feminist. Because I am. :)

-Izzy

Only if their paradox-absorbing crumple-zones have been removed.

Trouble is…I see nothing in her writings to indicate anything other than adherence to the minds of men who define women in narrowest terms; men who deny women their full humanity, insisting instead that there is but one manifestation of true womanhood…consisting of unquestioning fertility and social subordination.

Sad.

The mind of God…? Not so much, mehtinks.

Nope, calliopejane. Must be another Jennifer Kaufman.

Oh well — I thought the tone didn’t quite sound like the J.K. I knew, but it’s been several years so I thought it possible.

never mind, then.

Jennifer Kaufman, did you go to grad school at Tulane?

Nope, calliopejane. Must be another Jennifer Kaufman. Lately I’ve been noticing that my name is quite common.

I think back on the hell I went through over masturbation. Every time I did it, I felt horribly guilty and prayed for forgiveness.

A friend of mine who was a former mormon had a church-written thing up on her bathroom door (for us to laugh at), that suggested ways for resisting and overcoming the terrible terrible sin of masturbation. I remember one suggestion was to take a calendar, and on any day you relapsed and committed a masturbatory sin, you were to color the square for that day solidly black, striving for a “pure” month. We allowed as how for us it would probably be more efficient to just start with a piece of black posterboard and a very small bottle of white-out.

By saying the world has changed alot since Stanton’s time is a major disregard.
No. Disregard would be dismissing Stanton entirely.

It seems to me that “disregard” would be to suggest that all her efforts accomplished absolutely nothing at all.

Isn’t there some psychoanalytic name for projecting your self-loathing onto others?

um, yes, that’s what Freud called “projection.” :-P

and Jennifer Kaufman, did you go to grad school at Tulane?

I really feel that these anti-feminist women are kind of like anti-gay people from rural areas who’ve just never had gay people as family, friends, colleagues, and neighbors. Usually when these anti-gay people come to know the perfectly lovely gay people in their lives, they realize that gay people are human deserving of full dignity and freedom, and ultimately come to change their views. I think these anti-feminist women just have never truly had a feminist woman in their life who is a powerful role model – smart, beautiful, non-gender conforming, and feminist. They recoil at stereotypes of feminists and cling to a certain vision of the gender order that is highly specific to American evangelical culture out of fear and lack of exposure to other ways of being. How can we put more fabulous feminist women in the media/culture/public consciousness?

Sarah, I wish I could be as optimistic as you, but I think the feminist you just described could save an anti-feminist’s entire family from a burning building, and they’d still find reasons to hate her.

Sadly, I’ve worked with anti-feminist women, and it is not pretty. Nearly every single one was conniving, undermining and manipulative. One totally slandered me at one job but because she put on the nice church-going lady act management never held her accountable. I was the bad guy.

When you ask most American women, except for the very, very, very fundamentalist religious ones, most women will say heck yes, they like having the right to vote. I don’t think there are many women saying, “Women should not vote.

I was referring to Stanton’s work with The Woman’s Bible not her suffragist work. Just a primer for anyone who isn’t familiar, Stanton basically said the church was a prime source of women’s subjugation and challenged the Church’s interpretation of the bible. So when I see a woman who defines herself as devoting her life to the church actually pining for the days of Stanton it brings a chuckle to say the least. I’d bet money that she googled historic feminists and didn’t bother to check what they were up to in their day.