Comments on: A shameful Obama smear — this one from the mainstream media http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/02/28/a-shameful-obama-smear-this-one-from-the-mainstream-media/ In defense of the sanctimonious women's studies set. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:14:04 +0000 hourly 1 By: Bitter Scribe http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/02/28/a-shameful-obama-smear-this-one-from-the-mainstream-media/#comment-154642 Bitter Scribe Sat, 01 Mar 2008 21:16:07 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/02/28/a-shameful-obama-smear-this-one-from-the-mainstream-media/#comment-154642 I for one am really sick of seeing the following syllogism applied to African American politicians: 1. Black person A has said or done vile or silly things. 2. Candidate B is black. 3. Therefore, B may be assumed to support everything A has said or done unless s/he explicitly states otherwise. At least Russert tried to make a connection, however farfetched, between Obama and Farrakhan other than skin color. Most commentators don't even bother. I for one am really sick of seeing the following syllogism applied to African American politicians:

1. Black person A has said or done vile or silly things.
2. Candidate B is black.
3. Therefore, B may be assumed to support everything A has said or done unless s/he explicitly states otherwise.

At least Russert tried to make a connection, however farfetched, between Obama and Farrakhan other than skin color. Most commentators don’t even bother.

]]> By: Tim Russert is a Racist, and Clinton Doesn’t Help « Galling Galla http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/02/28/a-shameful-obama-smear-this-one-from-the-mainstream-media/#comment-154617 Tim Russert is a Racist, and Clinton Doesn’t Help « Galling Galla Sat, 01 Mar 2008 15:51:34 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/02/28/a-shameful-obama-smear-this-one-from-the-mainstream-media/#comment-154617 [...] Via. [...] [...] Via. [...]

]]> By: Morningstar http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/02/28/a-shameful-obama-smear-this-one-from-the-mainstream-media/#comment-154529 Morningstar Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:56:49 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/02/28/a-shameful-obama-smear-this-one-from-the-mainstream-media/#comment-154529 what's especially disgusting is that mccain has just accepted the nomination of one of the vilest creatures of the christian far right, john hagee and no one is taking him to task for it. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/28/hagee-mccain-endorsement/ what’s especially disgusting is that mccain has just accepted the nomination of one of the vilest creatures of the christian far right, john hagee and no one is taking him to task for it.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/28/hagee-mccain-endorsement/

]]> By: MJN http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/02/28/a-shameful-obama-smear-this-one-from-the-mainstream-media/#comment-154374 MJN Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:15:14 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/02/28/a-shameful-obama-smear-this-one-from-the-mainstream-media/#comment-154374 <blockquote>If Wright had talked about what a great guy George Bush Jr. is, it would give many of us pause, for instance.</blockquote> Actually, it wouldn't have given me any pause. I'm so strongly in favor of secularism, I don't feel a spiritual leader is necessarily a social leader. I grew up in a church whose basic religious principles I still agree with, but whose social and political stances I have completely departed from. The Audacity of Hope sermon, if you've read Obama's summary of it, was a strong and inspiring one. Farrakhan is homophobic, misogynist, anti-Semetic, and a host of other awful things. Obama's trying to walk a very fine line of denouncing everything about him except his civil rights past, acknowledging repeatedly that he disagrees strongly with everything Farrakhan's had to say. Obama doesn't have to accept Wright's endorsement of third parties to have Wright's spiritual advice.

If Wright had talked about what a great guy George Bush Jr. is, it would give many of us pause, for instance.

Actually, it wouldn’t have given me any pause. I’m so strongly in favor of secularism, I don’t feel a spiritual leader is necessarily a social leader. I grew up in a church whose basic religious principles I still agree with, but whose social and political stances I have completely departed from. The Audacity of Hope sermon, if you’ve read Obama’s summary of it, was a strong and inspiring one. Farrakhan is homophobic, misogynist, anti-Semetic, and a host of other awful things. Obama’s trying to walk a very fine line of denouncing everything about him except his civil rights past, acknowledging repeatedly that he disagrees strongly with everything Farrakhan’s had to say.
Obama doesn’t have to accept Wright’s endorsement of third parties to have Wright’s spiritual advice.

]]> By: jeffliveshere http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/02/28/a-shameful-obama-smear-this-one-from-the-mainstream-media/#comment-154311 jeffliveshere Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:23:42 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/02/28/a-shameful-obama-smear-this-one-from-the-mainstream-media/#comment-154311 Russert is a weenie on several levels, most of which has to do with his continuing insistence that he is 'objective' when it's clear that he doesn't even strive to come close to that standard. That said, I'm not Jewish, and I wouldn't for a minute conflate Obama's opinions on Judaism and Israel with Farakkhan's (which I take it is the force of calling this a smear), but is still concerns me that Obama's pastor thinks Farakkhan is such a great guy. One chooses a pastor as a spiritual leader, after all, so it doesn't seem to me that Wright's view on Farakkhan are somehow completely irrelevant. It's not that *all* of Wright's opinions have to match Obama's, but there are going to be deal-breakers, for me. If Wright had talked about what a great guy George Bush Jr. is, it would give many of us pause, for instance. Russert is a weenie on several levels, most of which has to do with his continuing insistence that he is ‘objective’ when it’s clear that he doesn’t even strive to come close to that standard. That said, I’m not Jewish, and I wouldn’t for a minute conflate Obama’s opinions on Judaism and Israel with Farakkhan’s (which I take it is the force of calling this a smear), but is still concerns me that Obama’s pastor thinks Farakkhan is such a great guy. One chooses a pastor as a spiritual leader, after all, so it doesn’t seem to me that Wright’s view on Farakkhan are somehow completely irrelevant. It’s not that *all* of Wright’s opinions have to match Obama’s, but there are going to be deal-breakers, for me. If Wright had talked about what a great guy George Bush Jr. is, it would give many of us pause, for instance.

]]> By: Felicia http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/02/28/a-shameful-obama-smear-this-one-from-the-mainstream-media/#comment-154288 Felicia Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:19:47 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/02/28/a-shameful-obama-smear-this-one-from-the-mainstream-media/#comment-154288 Yeah, the line of questions both candidates got was insulting. The sad thing is that this was the most watched MSNBC debate, so this kind of behavior from Russert will continue. I'm an Obama supporter, but think Clinton had a great point when she said she was being asked all the questions first. Think she was wrong for telling that lame SNL joke, though. Yeah, the line of questions both candidates got was insulting. The sad thing is that this was the most watched MSNBC debate, so this kind of behavior from Russert will continue.

I’m an Obama supporter, but think Clinton had a great point when she said she was being asked all the questions first. Think she was wrong for telling that lame SNL joke, though.

]]> By: Doug http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/02/28/a-shameful-obama-smear-this-one-from-the-mainstream-media/#comment-154268 Doug Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:07:44 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/02/28/a-shameful-obama-smear-this-one-from-the-mainstream-media/#comment-154268 God, I am so sick and tired of hearing people talk about Russert like he's the greatest, toughest political reporter ever. He's only tough and tenacious when it comes to questions that have <i>no f^%#ing bearing whatsoever</i> on actual policy or how said policy affects my life as an American. His Farrakhan chew-toy wasn't quite as bad as his "What's your favorite Bible verse" question from a while back, but it was damn close. God, I am so sick and tired of hearing people talk about Russert like he’s the greatest, toughest political reporter ever. He’s only tough and tenacious when it comes to questions that have no f^%#ing bearing whatsoever on actual policy or how said policy affects my life as an American. His Farrakhan chew-toy wasn’t quite as bad as his “What’s your favorite Bible verse” question from a while back, but it was damn close.

]]> By: Roxie http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/02/28/a-shameful-obama-smear-this-one-from-the-mainstream-media/#comment-154254 Roxie Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:25:31 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/02/28/a-shameful-obama-smear-this-one-from-the-mainstream-media/#comment-154254 I swear I could hear Obama's thoughts DID YOU NOT HEAR WHAT I <em>JUST </em>SAID?! I swear I could hear Obama’s thoughts
DID YOU NOT HEAR WHAT I JUST SAID?!

]]> By: Victoria Marinelli http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/02/28/a-shameful-obama-smear-this-one-from-the-mainstream-media/#comment-154246 Victoria Marinelli Thu, 28 Feb 2008 07:52:59 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/02/28/a-shameful-obama-smear-this-one-from-the-mainstream-media/#comment-154246 Yeah, that was uncool. If I may be so bold as to offer relevant linkage on a non-Self-Promotion-Sunday (which I almost always forget about until it's no longer Sunday), I have a new post up about the vast extent of media bias against <em>both</em> Clinton and Obama here: <a href="http://victoriamarinelli.com/main/2008/02/28/the-bias-about-the-bias/" rel="nofollow">The Bias About the Bias</a> Yeah, that was uncool.

If I may be so bold as to offer relevant linkage on a non-Self-Promotion-Sunday (which I almost always forget about until it’s no longer Sunday), I have a new post up about the vast extent of media bias against both Clinton and Obama here:

The Bias About the Bias

]]> By: Nis http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/02/28/a-shameful-obama-smear-this-one-from-the-mainstream-media/#comment-154224 Nis Thu, 28 Feb 2008 05:00:45 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/02/28/a-shameful-obama-smear-this-one-from-the-mainstream-media/#comment-154224 Hilary seizing the opportunity with her "rejection" speech was also a bit disgusting. Hilary seizing the opportunity with her “rejection” speech was also a bit disgusting.

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