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		<title>By: &#8220;Oh! Thank god! I&#8217;m not like you crazy!&#8221; &#171; Taking Up Too Much Space</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;Oh! Thank god! I&#8217;m not like you crazy!&#8221; &#171; Taking Up Too Much Space</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 04:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] September 20, 2008   Zuzu, thanks for putting them all in a line like that. It helps to remind me that I’m not crazy; there really is a huge amount of mainstream, virulent sexism that is accepted by our country. But while seeing it laid out like that helps to remind me I’m not crazy, it also makes me feel like I’m swimming against a riptide. It’s very discouraging. I tell myself it’s a backlash that is in response to some real feminist successes, but I only believe myself some of the time. (link) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] September 20, 2008   Zuzu, thanks for putting them all in a line like that. It helps to remind me that I’m not crazy; there really is a huge amount of mainstream, virulent sexism that is accepted by our country. But while seeing it laid out like that helps to remind me I’m not crazy, it also makes me feel like I’m swimming against a riptide. It’s very discouraging. I tell myself it’s a backlash that is in response to some real feminist successes, but I only believe myself some of the time. (link) [...]</p>
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		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/03/03/the-mainstream-media-hates-women/#comment-165227</link>
		<dc:creator>Sociological Images &#187; Sigh.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Daughter of the Ring of Fire - Less Sense Than a Victorian Novelist</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/03/03/the-mainstream-media-hates-women/#comment-157526</link>
		<dc:creator>Daughter of the Ring of Fire - Less Sense Than a Victorian Novelist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] addition to what has already been written in the feminist blogosphere regarding the latest foolishness from Charlotte Allen of the Independent Women&#8217;s Forum (which seems to have been named on [...]</description>
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		<title>By: vastleft</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/03/03/the-mainstream-media-hates-women/#comment-155442</link>
		<dc:creator>vastleft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Far, far better in galvanizing a general public that resoundingly dislikes this war and the Bush legacy overall, and far, far better at making 1600 Penn. Ave. into a progressive pulpit, the cure for what ails us.

By our more-charismatic candidate&#039;s choice of &quot;unity&quot; as the theme, he makes two enormous unforced errors:

1. Pissing away the public&#039;s proven -- and oh so hard won -- recognition that the Republican status-quo is debased
2. Accepting the frame (post-partisanship) that is Mr. Maverick&#039;s home field

Further, Obama -- &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.correntewire.com/triangulation_the_next_generation&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;just as Bill Clinton did&lt;/a&gt; -- takes the coward&#039;s way out in by failing to repudiate &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.correntewire.com/he_challenged_many_of_those_ideas&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Reagan&lt;/a&gt;, who, as Obama seems to completely miss, was &quot;transformative&quot; by convincing people outside his natural base to head his way, rather than by being magnanimous toward the competing ideology.

The Man from Hope (not to be confused with Obama or Huckabee) had somewhat more of an excuse -- the country wasn&#039;t near as disaffected with Bush I as it is with Bush II. This is a sea-change year, or it would have been, if Obama hadn&#039;t built a centrist breakwater than only &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity08&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sam Waterston&lt;/a&gt; and Michael Bloomberg should love.

The prospect of the GOP winning by losing, as it did in 1992, which begat 1994, which begat Monicagate, which begat beerbuddy-beats-statesman, is vastly increased, IMHO, by Obama&#039;s gratuitiously accommodationist rhetoric, sympathy for a devil that is -- or nearly was -- on its last hooves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Far, far better in galvanizing a general public that resoundingly dislikes this war and the Bush legacy overall, and far, far better at making 1600 Penn. Ave. into a progressive pulpit, the cure for what ails us.</p>
<p>By our more-charismatic candidate&#8217;s choice of &#8220;unity&#8221; as the theme, he makes two enormous unforced errors:</p>
<p>1. Pissing away the public&#8217;s proven &#8212; and oh so hard won &#8212; recognition that the Republican status-quo is debased<br />
2. Accepting the frame (post-partisanship) that is Mr. Maverick&#8217;s home field</p>
<p>Further, Obama &#8212; <a href="http://www.correntewire.com/triangulation_the_next_generation" rel="nofollow">just as Bill Clinton did</a> &#8212; takes the coward&#8217;s way out in by failing to repudiate <a href="http://www.correntewire.com/he_challenged_many_of_those_ideas" rel="nofollow">Reagan</a>, who, as Obama seems to completely miss, was &#8220;transformative&#8221; by convincing people outside his natural base to head his way, rather than by being magnanimous toward the competing ideology.</p>
<p>The Man from Hope (not to be confused with Obama or Huckabee) had somewhat more of an excuse &#8212; the country wasn&#8217;t near as disaffected with Bush I as it is with Bush II. This is a sea-change year, or it would have been, if Obama hadn&#8217;t built a centrist breakwater than only <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity08" rel="nofollow">Sam Waterston</a> and Michael Bloomberg should love.</p>
<p>The prospect of the GOP winning by losing, as it did in 1992, which begat 1994, which begat Monicagate, which begat beerbuddy-beats-statesman, is vastly increased, IMHO, by Obama&#8217;s gratuitiously accommodationist rhetoric, sympathy for a devil that is &#8212; or nearly was &#8212; on its last hooves.</p>
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		<title>By: SarahMC</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/03/03/the-mainstream-media-hates-women/#comment-155435</link>
		<dc:creator>SarahMC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t think criticizing her is, in itself, sexist, any more than criticizing Obama, per se, is racist.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thanks, Captain Obvious.  Nobody claimed such a thing.  If you can&#039;t disgtinguish &lt;em&gt;attacking Clinton&#039;s policies&lt;/em&gt; from &lt;em&gt;attacking Clinton&#039;s sex&lt;/em&gt;, you&#039;ve got some more learning to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don’t think criticizing her is, in itself, sexist, any more than criticizing Obama, per se, is racist.</p></blockquote>
<p>Thanks, Captain Obvious.  Nobody claimed such a thing.  If you can&#8217;t disgtinguish <em>attacking Clinton&#8217;s policies</em> from <em>attacking Clinton&#8217;s sex</em>, you&#8217;ve got some more learning to do.</p>
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		<title>By: zuzu</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/03/03/the-mainstream-media-hates-women/#comment-155433</link>
		<dc:creator>zuzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“Far, far better” from the point of view of satisfying a left-Dem, or “far, far better” from the point of view of winnning a general election against a war hero in the midst of, I’m sorry to say, a war?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Running against a war hero didn&#039;t make a bit of difference in 2004.  

And while the sockpuppeting is charming, you&#039;re not Harry Shearer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“Far, far better” from the point of view of satisfying a left-Dem, or “far, far better” from the point of view of winnning a general election against a war hero in the midst of, I’m sorry to say, a war?</p></blockquote>
<p>Running against a war hero didn&#8217;t make a bit of difference in 2004.  </p>
<p>And while the sockpuppeting is charming, you&#8217;re not Harry Shearer.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Shearer</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/03/03/the-mainstream-media-hates-women/#comment-155432</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry Shearer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Far, far better&quot; from the point of view of satisfying a left-Dem, or &quot;far, far better&quot; from the point of view of winnning a general election against a war hero in the midst of, I&#039;m sorry to say, a war?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Far, far better&#8221; from the point of view of satisfying a left-Dem, or &#8220;far, far better&#8221; from the point of view of winnning a general election against a war hero in the midst of, I&#8217;m sorry to say, a war?</p>
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		<title>By: vastleft</title>
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		<dc:creator>vastleft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, Harry...

I think running on &quot;competence&quot; in a change year is far, far better than running on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.correntewire.com/obama_stump_speech_strategy_of_conciliation_considered_harmful&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;post-partisanship&lt;/a&gt;  in a year when we finally have &lt;a href=&quot;http://correntewire.com/when_is_it_our_turn&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the chance to repudiate &lt;/a&gt;the Reagan Revolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, Harry&#8230;</p>
<p>I think running on &#8220;competence&#8221; in a change year is far, far better than running on <a href="http://www.correntewire.com/obama_stump_speech_strategy_of_conciliation_considered_harmful" rel="nofollow">post-partisanship</a>  in a year when we finally have <a href="http://correntewire.com/when_is_it_our_turn" rel="nofollow">the chance to repudiate </a>the Reagan Revolution.</p>
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		<title>By: vastleft</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/03/03/the-mainstream-media-hates-women/#comment-155419</link>
		<dc:creator>vastleft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry,

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.correntewire.com/harry_shearer_as_garrison_keillor_on_al_franken_for_senate#comment-36612&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Big fan&lt;/a&gt;, btw, and I appreciate that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.correntewire.com/harry_shearer_harshes_the_mellow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;you&#039;ve challenged Senator Obama&lt;/a&gt; to put his money where his mouth is.

That aside, I don&#039;t grant a lot of respect to &quot;negatives&quot; ginned up by Gingrich and Starr, and I&#039;ve lost respect for the many Obama supporters who have gleefully refueled those infernal fires, including Democratic Underground users who are convinced that Hillary used Vince Foster&#039;s corpse to bring down the twin towers.

I started watching this campaign with low approval for Hillary myself, but she&#039;s won me over with her resilience and her choice to tack left, as Obama has generally tacked right.

That there were longstanding prejudices against Hillary before she got to take her case to the public doesn&#039;t impress me much. Bush, it seemed, felt that poor black people in New Orleans didn&#039;t have a high-enough approval rating to warrant taking action before or after Katrina hit.  That didn&#039;t impress me much, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.correntewire.com/harry_shearer_as_garrison_keillor_on_al_franken_for_senate#comment-36612" rel="nofollow">Big fan</a>, btw, and I appreciate that <a href="http://www.correntewire.com/harry_shearer_harshes_the_mellow" rel="nofollow">you&#8217;ve challenged Senator Obama</a> to put his money where his mouth is.</p>
<p>That aside, I don&#8217;t grant a lot of respect to &#8220;negatives&#8221; ginned up by Gingrich and Starr, and I&#8217;ve lost respect for the many Obama supporters who have gleefully refueled those infernal fires, including Democratic Underground users who are convinced that Hillary used Vince Foster&#8217;s corpse to bring down the twin towers.</p>
<p>I started watching this campaign with low approval for Hillary myself, but she&#8217;s won me over with her resilience and her choice to tack left, as Obama has generally tacked right.</p>
<p>That there were longstanding prejudices against Hillary before she got to take her case to the public doesn&#8217;t impress me much. Bush, it seemed, felt that poor black people in New Orleans didn&#8217;t have a high-enough approval rating to warrant taking action before or after Katrina hit.  That didn&#8217;t impress me much, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Shearer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Shearer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 05:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I disappointed you.  I just think, when you start with 48-49% negatives in most polling, you&#039;re not a viable candidate in the general election.  And the &quot;experience&quot; claim is ludicrous on its face: she&#039;s had three, four more years in the Senate than Obama.  We all know why she&#039;s in a position to run for President, and it&#039;s not a feminist position.  
PS: I&#039;m not an Obama fan, either.  If you watched the &quot;OVertime&quot; segment on the web, I outlined my disdain for all the Presidential candidates, of both parties, for their failure to discuss forthrightly the greatest man-made engineering disaster in this country&#039;s history (to quote one of those who investigated it), the failure of the levees in New Orleans and the subsequent flooding of the city.  But I do see Hillary Clinton as a seriously flawed candidate, choosing &quot;experience&quot; in a &quot;change&quot; year--almost as disastrous a choice as Dukakis&#039; opting for &quot;competence&quot; as his theme.  And I don&#039;t think criticizing her is, in itself, sexist, any more than criticizing Obama, per se, is racist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I disappointed you.  I just think, when you start with 48-49% negatives in most polling, you&#8217;re not a viable candidate in the general election.  And the &#8220;experience&#8221; claim is ludicrous on its face: she&#8217;s had three, four more years in the Senate than Obama.  We all know why she&#8217;s in a position to run for President, and it&#8217;s not a feminist position.<br />
PS: I&#8217;m not an Obama fan, either.  If you watched the &#8220;OVertime&#8221; segment on the web, I outlined my disdain for all the Presidential candidates, of both parties, for their failure to discuss forthrightly the greatest man-made engineering disaster in this country&#8217;s history (to quote one of those who investigated it), the failure of the levees in New Orleans and the subsequent flooding of the city.  But I do see Hillary Clinton as a seriously flawed candidate, choosing &#8220;experience&#8221; in a &#8220;change&#8221; year&#8211;almost as disastrous a choice as Dukakis&#8217; opting for &#8220;competence&#8221; as his theme.  And I don&#8217;t think criticizing her is, in itself, sexist, any more than criticizing Obama, per se, is racist.</p>
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