Comments on: Don’t Forget the Angry White Men

By: Tom

Tom — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:30:43 +0000

I am really sorry, BUT GODDAMMIT I HAVE BEEN SEARCHING FOR A FUCKING HOUR FOR THE DATING OF MESO-AMERICAN, PRE-COLUMBIAN STONE FACES OF WHITE PEOPLE AND I GET A SITE FOR AMERICAN FEMINISTS!!!

By: Brady

Brady — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:42:20 +0000

And the angry white dude doesn’t want black men NEAR his buxom blonde daughter!!!

By: mermaidshoes

mermaidshoes — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:12:25 +0000

@Caravelle: i read it as satire, too. i’ve been trying to look up other gary hubbell articles to see what his general perspective is…

http://www.aspentimes.com/article/20080112/ASPENWEEKLY06/676314754 (this one refers to tofu-sucking vegans!)
http://www.aspentimes.com/article/20071222/ASPENWEEKLY06/645317194 (but here he considers himself an environmentalist)
http://www.aspentimes.com/article/20071124/ASPENWEEKLY06/71123032 (comes across as anti-immigrant here, worries about global warming, and straight-up says a hillary clinton presidency would be a “disaster” because she’d spend too much on “victims” and take away the right to bear arms)

so, seems like he might have been serious after all. gross.

By: littlem

littlem — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 18:52:08 +0000

Geez! If these guys didn’t give themselves a pat on the back for being ’such hard-working, good-ol’ American’ men, well, then who would? Amazing how stuck in the middle ages (or even the 1950’s) some supposed progressives are. I’ve never understood how someone who’s so blatantly sexist/racist/classist could even begin to utter the word progressive.

I have occasionally been labeled as a bit heretical, but I think it might also be important to mention that some of those men do in fact identify as “progressive”.

By: jamesPi

jamesPi — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 00:57:31 +0000

ah, my bad, California does offer the dmv test in Farsi, 32 languages in total.

By: jamesPi

jamesPi — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 00:12:41 +0000

eh, last thing for ya mne in response to post #22. You mentioned a few languages there but why not more of the 207 languages spoken in Calinfornia? You’re in La? Ever heard of tehrangeles? Why not one in Farsi?

On the overall topic, there are a lot of white men who think like this guy does, only to a much lesser degree. What a lot of them want, especially the ones in my age group, are a completely level playing field. They don’t see their privilege nor understand it, they only see stats like the ones I mentioned earlier in jest (life expectancy, education, incarceration), they see college scholarships offered to groups theyre not a part of and adovacy groups, both private and publc, again for groups they don’t belong to. I see their anger at this, based in their misunderstanding of the advantages they do have, a lot more now that I’m in the South. Poor white southern males are in a bad position in any way we measure it and they get frustrated. They dont get the opportunity to read these kinds of sites or talk to people outside of their immediate family and friends so in 20 years a lot of them turn into the guy this thread is about. Hopefully the movement will continue move out further and further and touch even more people than it already has.

By: jamesPi

jamesPi — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 00:02:14 +0000

exholt,
Sorry you had to go through that. As a white guy with a deep tan and a scruffy appearance (beard and such) I often get some strange looks when I speak a language other than English as I specialize in mideast/indoeuropean languages. Really was an eye-opening experience as I can pass for an Iranian (in the eyes of most westerners) if I really want to and its quite a thing to experience the world that way.
English as the official language needn’t be a “rabid-right” political stance though there are many of those types who would/do support it. If you could take a glance over at the website I put up earlier in the thread it might help understand where I’m coming from as I’m not terribly well-spoken.

By: jamesPi

jamesPi — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 23:56:43 +0000

mne,
Check out the website I mentioned, it answers your question. There are already states with English as the official language. The website is a good one, just make sure to go to that exact link as there are some out there that are definitely the kind of idiots you think about when the “English as our official language!” thing comes up.
Another way to think about it is, by not providing easily accessible and (hopefully) free services for all citizens or people here legally (or illegally if we want to do that) to learn English we leave them in a position to be exploited. Not speaking English in this country can have a profound effect on ones financial well-being. Of course thats the private side of things, the website will go over the gov’t side of things. Enjoy.

By: Bitter Scribe

Bitter Scribe — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 20:05:47 +0000

His background might be Italian, English, Polish, German, Slavic, Irish, or Russian, and he might have Cherokee, Mexican, or Puerto Rican mixed in... Just how many of your grandparents or great-grands can be Indians, Mexicans or Puerto Ricans before you get disqualified?

By: exholt

exholt — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 19:19:42 +0000

As for the general topic, I have a story about an encounter when I was walking from Boston to Harvard University along Mass Ave. Somewhere past Central Square, I came across a bunch of angry White boys who upon spotting me, started loudly complaining that the influx of Asians at Harvard were stealing places they were rightfully entitled to as “real Americans”. Tiring of this overindulgent whining, I retorted “Maybe if you spent more time studying and participating in extracurriculars and less time complaining about Asians…you wouldn’t be whining like a bunch of losers”. Though I was half-expecting to get jumped, they all just shot glaringly dirty looks and stormed off in a huff.