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		<title>By: Link Smorgasbord &#171; Bloggity Blog Blog Blog&#8230;</title>
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		<description>[...] Sixteen Maneuvers to Avoid Really Dealing with Racism - on Feministe. Read this a long time ago, just stumbled across it again, want to keep it somewhere accessible for regular rereading. Really helpful and great comment thread. Also my first exposure to&#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: fun on the internets &#171; flooring and whoring</title>
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		<dc:creator>fun on the internets &#171; flooring and whoring</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Sixteen Maneuvers to Avoid Really Dealing with Racism at Feministe- This is almost a year old, I know. But the list is pretty good, and even better are all the comments. It&#8217;s like reading a damned novel! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sixteen Maneuvers to Avoid Really Dealing with Racism at Feministe- This is almost a year old, I know. But the list is pretty good, and even better are all the comments. It&#8217;s like reading a damned novel! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: eric moor</title>
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		<dc:creator>eric moor</dc:creator>
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		<description>racisim is evil, its ungodly and reduces one to a piece of metal that can only fit in another</description>
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		<title>By: How Whites benefit from fighting White privilege #1: Self-Esteem &#171; Restructure!</title>
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		<dc:creator>How Whites benefit from fighting White privilege #1: Self-Esteem &#171; Restructure!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 02:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sixteen Maneuvers to Avoid Really Dealing with Racism by Holly at Feministe [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tanker J.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tanker J.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When are all us american whites going to realize that we&#039;re racist, and there&#039;s nothing they we do about it?  I, along with all the rest am guilty, guilty, guilty of racism.  See: other, more sensitive white people tell me it&#039;s true.  It&#039;s kafkaesque in the extreme.  You were born guilty, because you&#039;re a white american.  That&#039;s all that&#039;s to be said on the topic, thank you very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When are all us american whites going to realize that we&#8217;re racist, and there&#8217;s nothing they we do about it?  I, along with all the rest am guilty, guilty, guilty of racism.  See: other, more sensitive white people tell me it&#8217;s true.  It&#8217;s kafkaesque in the extreme.  You were born guilty, because you&#8217;re a white american.  That&#8217;s all that&#8217;s to be said on the topic, thank you very much.</p>
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		<title>By: Sick of Racism</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sick of Racism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 05:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this blog, this list really does expose all the now-classic ducks, dodges, bobs and weaves that people (I have to say, most of them tend to be White, sorry) use to avoid honest discussions about racism in America. If you don&#039;t mind, I&#039;d like to add one that bugs the hell out of me because I see it in virtually every online racial discussion I&#039;ve witnessed or participated in:

&lt;strong&gt;The Minority Defender of All Things White&lt;/strong&gt;
&quot;I&#039;m Black, and from my experience us Black people are the most racist people on the face of the planet. A poor White man can&#039;t even walk down the street without being mugged by an animalistic Black criminal. You people, I mean US people, need to stop blaming the White man for our problems. Racism is over! We&#039;re our own worst enemy! No one is discriminating against us and we have even more opportunities than White people! Stop blaming White people for your problems and catch up with them! We should be thankful for the opportunity to be in this country and should be imitating what makes them successful.&quot;

I can&#039;t stand that Black/Latino/Asian/Arab/Native American guy/gal who flies to the defense of White people at the drop of a hat if any non-White person so much as dare to grumble about anything negative that White people do. That&#039;s the best term I could think of to describe them, that title comes from a line a White guy said to Don Cheadle&#039;s character in the movie &quot;Crash&quot;. That line &quot;What are you? The defender of all things White?&quot; 

But yeah, I don&#039;t know what&#039;s going on but it seems like in the past 4 or 5 years the level and frequency of White people whining about Minorities whining about White people has increased substantially. Every conversation that has to do with anyone non-White ends up devolving into a discussion about how that person&#039;s race is delinquent. White criminals are sympathized with while Black offenders are called &quot;animals&quot;, &quot;savages&quot; and &quot;brutes&quot;. Yet those same White people will swear up and down they are colorblind and don&#039;t see race, but they can see that non-White people are supposedly more racist and supposedly enjoy more privileges due to damn liberals/socialists/communists/politically correct committees/etc. pampering them. I&#039;ve seen tens of threads calling Barack Obama (the guy who a lot of Black people felt/feel is an &quot;oreo&quot;) a &quot;racist&quot; for talking about his grandmother&#039;s racism as not uncommon for White people and for talking about resentment among White people for Minorities who they feel are somehow getting something that Whites aren&#039;t. I&#039;ve seen endless threads where 85% of mostly-white posters on polls believe Minorities are more racist while Whites are innocent victims suffering from the irrational wrath of the brown peoples who can&#039;t forget all that bad stuff that totally ended like 500 years ago and no longer affects them! Even though Tim Wise showed that 55 years ago many White people during Jim Crow still believed that Minorities had more privileges than Whites.

It&#039;s so stupid and I wish it would end. This must be a sign we are in an economic downturn or many White people are realizing the rate at which the Latino and Black population is growing. I can&#039;t see why else this racism is increasing so. It&#039;s very disheartening and makes me wonder if most White people are really like this deep down behind their smiles in public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this blog, this list really does expose all the now-classic ducks, dodges, bobs and weaves that people (I have to say, most of them tend to be White, sorry) use to avoid honest discussions about racism in America. If you don&#8217;t mind, I&#8217;d like to add one that bugs the hell out of me because I see it in virtually every online racial discussion I&#8217;ve witnessed or participated in:</p>
<p><strong>The Minority Defender of All Things White</strong><br />
&#8220;I&#8217;m Black, and from my experience us Black people are the most racist people on the face of the planet. A poor White man can&#8217;t even walk down the street without being mugged by an animalistic Black criminal. You people, I mean US people, need to stop blaming the White man for our problems. Racism is over! We&#8217;re our own worst enemy! No one is discriminating against us and we have even more opportunities than White people! Stop blaming White people for your problems and catch up with them! We should be thankful for the opportunity to be in this country and should be imitating what makes them successful.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t stand that Black/Latino/Asian/Arab/Native American guy/gal who flies to the defense of White people at the drop of a hat if any non-White person so much as dare to grumble about anything negative that White people do. That&#8217;s the best term I could think of to describe them, that title comes from a line a White guy said to Don Cheadle&#8217;s character in the movie &#8220;Crash&#8221;. That line &#8220;What are you? The defender of all things White?&#8221; </p>
<p>But yeah, I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s going on but it seems like in the past 4 or 5 years the level and frequency of White people whining about Minorities whining about White people has increased substantially. Every conversation that has to do with anyone non-White ends up devolving into a discussion about how that person&#8217;s race is delinquent. White criminals are sympathized with while Black offenders are called &#8220;animals&#8221;, &#8220;savages&#8221; and &#8220;brutes&#8221;. Yet those same White people will swear up and down they are colorblind and don&#8217;t see race, but they can see that non-White people are supposedly more racist and supposedly enjoy more privileges due to damn liberals/socialists/communists/politically correct committees/etc. pampering them. I&#8217;ve seen tens of threads calling Barack Obama (the guy who a lot of Black people felt/feel is an &#8220;oreo&#8221;) a &#8220;racist&#8221; for talking about his grandmother&#8217;s racism as not uncommon for White people and for talking about resentment among White people for Minorities who they feel are somehow getting something that Whites aren&#8217;t. I&#8217;ve seen endless threads where 85% of mostly-white posters on polls believe Minorities are more racist while Whites are innocent victims suffering from the irrational wrath of the brown peoples who can&#8217;t forget all that bad stuff that totally ended like 500 years ago and no longer affects them! Even though Tim Wise showed that 55 years ago many White people during Jim Crow still believed that Minorities had more privileges than Whites.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s so stupid and I wish it would end. This must be a sign we are in an economic downturn or many White people are realizing the rate at which the Latino and Black population is growing. I can&#8217;t see why else this racism is increasing so. It&#8217;s very disheartening and makes me wonder if most White people are really like this deep down behind their smiles in public.</p>
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		<title>By: Feministe » This has not been a good week for woman of color blogging</title>
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		<dc:creator>Feministe » This has not been a good week for woman of color blogging</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] understand BFP closing down. Shit, there is a reason I only rarely muster up the courage to write about racism on Feministe. Compared to many radical WOC bloggers out [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Because I care</title>
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		<dc:creator>Because I care</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know being a white person and growing up in an inner-city neighbourhood, I was a minority in my school and my neighbourhood. I was lucky never to be a minority in society, and how sad that is (in regards to the media for example and not being able to have dolls that look like you among other things)

I never had a problem with anybody. I had maybe two white friends that passed through my life in my childhood and all the rest were &quot;minorities&quot; of which I didn&#039;t even see at the time because they were just my friends. I feel lucky to have these experiences and honestly don&#039;t know if other white people that are from non-ghetto neighbourhoods are racist. Even though I prejudge them with out knowing anything about them.

Then one day when I was a teenager all of a sudden people start discovering their identites, and saying stuff like &quot; it&#039;s a black thing&quot;, &quot; white people are...&quot; and so forth and all of a sudden things are different. It was a very damaging experience.

I just want to let any &quot;minority&quot; know who hears this at least from my own experience which seems to be proven over and over again in the behaviour of other white people. When you see me on the street, and I give you a look of fear. It&#039;s not fear of you that you&#039;ll hurt me or something. It&#039;s fear of being rejected because I&#039;m white, and no matter what I can do, and no matter how hard I try I&#039;ll always be bad simply because I&#039;m white. I suspect this is why most white people act like this.

If I avoid you or feel uncomfortable with you it&#039;s because of the same thing. Even Obama doesn&#039;t get it. But I still love him.

I am a racist. I&#039;m racist against other white people, because that is what society teaches me and what influences my perceptions.
I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s true. That all white people are a certain way. Even though I am white I&#039;m judging white people too. That I can&#039;t relate too. (white people from other social economic groups) 

And I&#039;m racist against all &quot;minorities&quot; because I think that each and everyone, of you no matter how hard I try will hate me just because of the simple fact I&#039;m white. I don&#039;t know how to let my heart believe again that someone could truly like me even as a white person. 

I&#039;m also racist because I too am just a person and I can&#039;t understand everyones perspective or accomondate everyones need. I just don&#039;t know how. Neither does anybody else.

It&#039;s crazy because I&#039;ve been homeless and in fostercare and so forth and when your on the fringes of society the racism seems to disappear. At least from my experience.Your outed by everyone else. Your on the lowest rung of society, and nobody wants you. 
And you band together because your all on the fringes of society. It feels good and my whiteness seems to go away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know being a white person and growing up in an inner-city neighbourhood, I was a minority in my school and my neighbourhood. I was lucky never to be a minority in society, and how sad that is (in regards to the media for example and not being able to have dolls that look like you among other things)</p>
<p>I never had a problem with anybody. I had maybe two white friends that passed through my life in my childhood and all the rest were &#8220;minorities&#8221; of which I didn&#8217;t even see at the time because they were just my friends. I feel lucky to have these experiences and honestly don&#8217;t know if other white people that are from non-ghetto neighbourhoods are racist. Even though I prejudge them with out knowing anything about them.</p>
<p>Then one day when I was a teenager all of a sudden people start discovering their identites, and saying stuff like &#8221; it&#8217;s a black thing&#8221;, &#8221; white people are&#8230;&#8221; and so forth and all of a sudden things are different. It was a very damaging experience.</p>
<p>I just want to let any &#8220;minority&#8221; know who hears this at least from my own experience which seems to be proven over and over again in the behaviour of other white people. When you see me on the street, and I give you a look of fear. It&#8217;s not fear of you that you&#8217;ll hurt me or something. It&#8217;s fear of being rejected because I&#8217;m white, and no matter what I can do, and no matter how hard I try I&#8217;ll always be bad simply because I&#8217;m white. I suspect this is why most white people act like this.</p>
<p>If I avoid you or feel uncomfortable with you it&#8217;s because of the same thing. Even Obama doesn&#8217;t get it. But I still love him.</p>
<p>I am a racist. I&#8217;m racist against other white people, because that is what society teaches me and what influences my perceptions.<br />
I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s true. That all white people are a certain way. Even though I am white I&#8217;m judging white people too. That I can&#8217;t relate too. (white people from other social economic groups) </p>
<p>And I&#8217;m racist against all &#8220;minorities&#8221; because I think that each and everyone, of you no matter how hard I try will hate me just because of the simple fact I&#8217;m white. I don&#8217;t know how to let my heart believe again that someone could truly like me even as a white person. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also racist because I too am just a person and I can&#8217;t understand everyones perspective or accomondate everyones need. I just don&#8217;t know how. Neither does anybody else.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s crazy because I&#8217;ve been homeless and in fostercare and so forth and when your on the fringes of society the racism seems to disappear. At least from my experience.Your outed by everyone else. Your on the lowest rung of society, and nobody wants you.<br />
And you band together because your all on the fringes of society. It feels good and my whiteness seems to go away.</p>
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		<title>By: Don't Agree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don't Agree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 15:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True Racists
This
Of course you’re a racist if you’re not working toward doing anything about it.  adnd ...  that is wrong and you’ll remain a racist until you work toward solving the problems of racism like I (in my enlightened state) do.

I just don&#039;t agree with. 
1) not working toward against racism doesn&#039;t make you racist and working against it doesn&#039;t make you NOT racists. The question that has yet to be asked is - do I have issues with a person because of their ethnic, political, sexual orientation, religion or economic status, or do I have issues with a person simply because I have issues with them? 

The assumption is is that if you don&#039;t look like me, and i don&#039;t like you, I must be racists. And it just isn&#039;t true.. We get to not like each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True Racists<br />
This<br />
Of course you’re a racist if you’re not working toward doing anything about it.  adnd &#8230;  that is wrong and you’ll remain a racist until you work toward solving the problems of racism like I (in my enlightened state) do.</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t agree with.<br />
1) not working toward against racism doesn&#8217;t make you racist and working against it doesn&#8217;t make you NOT racists. The question that has yet to be asked is &#8211; do I have issues with a person because of their ethnic, political, sexual orientation, religion or economic status, or do I have issues with a person simply because I have issues with them? </p>
<p>The assumption is is that if you don&#8217;t look like me, and i don&#8217;t like you, I must be racists. And it just isn&#8217;t true.. We get to not like each other.</p>
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		<title>By: True Racist</title>
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		<dc:creator>True Racist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for posting so many times at the end of a died-out discussion, but I just wanted to address those who claim not to be racist because they&#039;ve never met anyone of a different race.  Please see &quot;The Smoke and Mirrors&quot; in the above list.  Of course you&#039;re a racist if you&#039;re not working toward doing anything about it.  There are no excuses not to be working against racism.  Not poverty, not social activism in other areas.  Because even if racism appears to have little or no impact on your life, that is wrong and you&#039;ll remain a racist until you work toward solving the problems of racism like I (in my enlightened state) do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for posting so many times at the end of a died-out discussion, but I just wanted to address those who claim not to be racist because they&#8217;ve never met anyone of a different race.  Please see &#8220;The Smoke and Mirrors&#8221; in the above list.  Of course you&#8217;re a racist if you&#8217;re not working toward doing anything about it.  There are no excuses not to be working against racism.  Not poverty, not social activism in other areas.  Because even if racism appears to have little or no impact on your life, that is wrong and you&#8217;ll remain a racist until you work toward solving the problems of racism like I (in my enlightened state) do.</p>
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