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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: Hugo</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/03/30/what-does-a-feminist-blogger-do/#comment-164852</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not everywhere is America and unfortunately Americans in total have a very bad and oft times deserved reputation for being loud mouthed and outspoken when they should keep their traps shut.  Culturally speaking if this woman mouthed off about womens rights in a Sharia ruled Islamic country she wouldn&#039;t be slapped on the butt she&#039;d be raped or dead.  Like or not ladies many cultures view feminism as it exists in the United States (England, Australia, Nordic countries, etc.) as a bitter poison that is a very real threat to their way of life.  When they see &quot;feminism&quot; portrayed on television all they see is women ruling men and being just as arbitrary, capricious, savage, cruel, and ruthless as the worst examples of men in history.  I used to work several people from Morocco (VERY intelligent, hard working, and I&#039;ll take issue with anyone that says otherwise BTW).  When we spoke about womens rights his point was simple... &quot;Exactly what benefits do you offer us?  Our wives will divorce us and steal everything we&#039;ve ever owned.  Then  they&#039;ll take our children away and force us to pay to see them.  And if we object or try to say no to any of it we&#039;re thrown in jail.  When we try to work, we can&#039;t because some woman somewhere might want the job first.&quot;  Whether you like it or not THAT is how feminism is seen.  It isn&#039;t &quot;equal rights&quot; and many people abroad know it.  It is the complete substitution of perceived male dominance with police enforced female dominance.  An artificial system propped up only by the power of jack booted thuggery and artificial invented &quot;crimes&quot; which in the natural world sans stifling blankets of laws and threats of violence from on high would fall apart in 15 minutes.  How much &quot;feminism&quot; was on display in say New Orleans after Katrina?  No sane people would volunteer for such if it was offered these days as what it means, what it REALLY means is on display so openly here in the U.S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not everywhere is America and unfortunately Americans in total have a very bad and oft times deserved reputation for being loud mouthed and outspoken when they should keep their traps shut.  Culturally speaking if this woman mouthed off about womens rights in a Sharia ruled Islamic country she wouldn&#8217;t be slapped on the butt she&#8217;d be raped or dead.  Like or not ladies many cultures view feminism as it exists in the United States (England, Australia, Nordic countries, etc.) as a bitter poison that is a very real threat to their way of life.  When they see &#8220;feminism&#8221; portrayed on television all they see is women ruling men and being just as arbitrary, capricious, savage, cruel, and ruthless as the worst examples of men in history.  I used to work several people from Morocco (VERY intelligent, hard working, and I&#8217;ll take issue with anyone that says otherwise BTW).  When we spoke about womens rights his point was simple&#8230; &#8220;Exactly what benefits do you offer us?  Our wives will divorce us and steal everything we&#8217;ve ever owned.  Then  they&#8217;ll take our children away and force us to pay to see them.  And if we object or try to say no to any of it we&#8217;re thrown in jail.  When we try to work, we can&#8217;t because some woman somewhere might want the job first.&#8221;  Whether you like it or not THAT is how feminism is seen.  It isn&#8217;t &#8220;equal rights&#8221; and many people abroad know it.  It is the complete substitution of perceived male dominance with police enforced female dominance.  An artificial system propped up only by the power of jack booted thuggery and artificial invented &#8220;crimes&#8221; which in the natural world sans stifling blankets of laws and threats of violence from on high would fall apart in 15 minutes.  How much &#8220;feminism&#8221; was on display in say New Orleans after Katrina?  No sane people would volunteer for such if it was offered these days as what it means, what it REALLY means is on display so openly here in the U.S.</p>
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		<title>By: e.</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/03/30/what-does-a-feminist-blogger-do/#comment-164732</link>
		<dc:creator>e.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 23:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m actually curious about the distinction between colonialist feminism and what this guy was talking about.  I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve studied colonial feminism.  

That being said, many people say asshole things when they think it&#039;s anonymous.  Most websites post a warning that states the operator of the same reserves the right to publish entire emails including email addresses.  If there has been a warning, I say it&#039;s fair game to post the guy&#039;s email address.  However, I note on your site you assure the poster that their email will not be published.  

I think that regardless of what a douche this guy is (seriously, what a fantastic powerful man, using violence when words failed him), the correct thing to do is not publish his email.  You said it wouldn&#039;t be published, so you should stick to your word.  And I&quot;m not up on my internet privacy laws, but I know if companies violate their internet privacy policies, they wind up in hot water.  I don&#039;t think it&#039;s worth it for you to find out if that applies to bloggers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m actually curious about the distinction between colonialist feminism and what this guy was talking about.  I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve studied colonial feminism.  </p>
<p>That being said, many people say asshole things when they think it&#8217;s anonymous.  Most websites post a warning that states the operator of the same reserves the right to publish entire emails including email addresses.  If there has been a warning, I say it&#8217;s fair game to post the guy&#8217;s email address.  However, I note on your site you assure the poster that their email will not be published.  </p>
<p>I think that regardless of what a douche this guy is (seriously, what a fantastic powerful man, using violence when words failed him), the correct thing to do is not publish his email.  You said it wouldn&#8217;t be published, so you should stick to your word.  And I&#8221;m not up on my internet privacy laws, but I know if companies violate their internet privacy policies, they wind up in hot water.  I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s worth it for you to find out if that applies to bloggers.</p>
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		<title>By: Amir Larijani &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Get Over It, Dumb Broad</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/03/30/what-does-a-feminist-blogger-do/#comment-164658</link>
		<dc:creator>Amir Larijani &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Get Over It, Dumb Broad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the do-gooder at Feministe, has her panties in a twist for no good reason. Recently, a Venezuelan man e-mailed her the following account of an American feminist strutting in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: p-dawg</title>
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		<dc:creator>p-dawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to the Internet. YHBT. Golf clap.

(For the lingo-challenged: YHBT = You Have Been Trolled)

It&#039;s people like you that let the terrorists win. Feeding trolls only encourages more trolls. Don&#039;t feed the trolls. If you read something on the Internet, and it makes you say, &quot;I can&#039;t BELIEVE that!&quot;... LISTEN TO YOURSELF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the Internet. YHBT. Golf clap.</p>
<p>(For the lingo-challenged: YHBT = You Have Been Trolled)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s people like you that let the terrorists win. Feeding trolls only encourages more trolls. Don&#8217;t feed the trolls. If you read something on the Internet, and it makes you say, &#8220;I can&#8217;t BELIEVE that!&#8221;&#8230; LISTEN TO YOURSELF.</p>
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		<title>By: jenofiniquity</title>
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		<dc:creator>jenofiniquity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I&#039;m really late to this thread, but I vote with all the other posters who believe this letter is a fake. I&#039;ve had a poster in another forum tell me this story almost word-for-word: that he&#039;s from South America, and women there know how to respect their men, and the only thing keeping American feminists safe from assault by their outraged betters is the American justice system. It&#039;s an attempt to silence and obliquely threaten, but the story is just fake, fake, fake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;m really late to this thread, but I vote with all the other posters who believe this letter is a fake. I&#8217;ve had a poster in another forum tell me this story almost word-for-word: that he&#8217;s from South America, and women there know how to respect their men, and the only thing keeping American feminists safe from assault by their outraged betters is the American justice system. It&#8217;s an attempt to silence and obliquely threaten, but the story is just fake, fake, fake.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So made up!  And so dumb!  Post that IP and email.  C&#039;mon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So made up!  And so dumb!  Post that IP and email.  C&#8217;mon.</p>
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		<title>By: Abby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it is fake--which I suspect--you should definitely publish. Because someone who thinks that is funny to write would probably think that&#039;s funny to do. 

Think of yourself like a therapist. You can&#039;t reveal anything to anyone unless you have reason to believe the patient will hurt someone. Well, him saying that, on the internet, to a major blog, is a threat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it is fake&#8211;which I suspect&#8211;you should definitely publish. Because someone who thinks that is funny to write would probably think that&#8217;s funny to do. </p>
<p>Think of yourself like a therapist. You can&#8217;t reveal anything to anyone unless you have reason to believe the patient will hurt someone. Well, him saying that, on the internet, to a major blog, is a threat.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Marcotte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda Marcotte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Publish the information.  I think you relinquish your right to me keeping information you gave me private when you threaten me physically, which is the implication of his comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Publish the information.  I think you relinquish your right to me keeping information you gave me private when you threaten me physically, which is the implication of his comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauredhel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauredhel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 19:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s sticky, but I vote for publishing, or signing up for feminist email lists.

IMHO, it doesn’t really matter if the story was fake&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But it does matter if the email is fake. At best, you&#039;re loading innocent servers with bounces; at worst, you&#039;re spamming a bystander.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It’s sticky, but I vote for publishing, or signing up for feminist email lists.</p>
<p>IMHO, it doesn’t really matter if the story was fake</p></blockquote>
<p>But it does matter if the email is fake. At best, you&#8217;re loading innocent servers with bounces; at worst, you&#8217;re spamming a bystander.</p>
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		<title>By: cy</title>
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		<dc:creator>cy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 18:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m guessing if he a made a criminal threat you’d be fine with turning his info over to the proper authorities. I suppose our definition of what merits an exception is just different.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
This doesn&#039;t seem like a good analogy to me.  The criminal threat example has both a higher standard for disclosing the poster&#039;s identity/email/IP (a crime may be imminent v. making a stupid post) and a narrower group of people who are made aware of the poster&#039;s identity (only the authorities v. anyone who reads the blog).  Moreover, the purpose in reporting a criminal threat is to protect the potential victim of the crime (not just to allow people who disagree with the poster to do what they will with the poster&#039;s info).

It takes quite a leap to get from that example to supporting the release to the entire board the poster&#039;s email/IP for making a post that doesn&#039;t threaten anyone, regardless of how ignorant and inflammatory it may be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’m guessing if he a made a criminal threat you’d be fine with turning his info over to the proper authorities. I suppose our definition of what merits an exception is just different.</p></blockquote>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t seem like a good analogy to me.  The criminal threat example has both a higher standard for disclosing the poster&#8217;s identity/email/IP (a crime may be imminent v. making a stupid post) and a narrower group of people who are made aware of the poster&#8217;s identity (only the authorities v. anyone who reads the blog).  Moreover, the purpose in reporting a criminal threat is to protect the potential victim of the crime (not just to allow people who disagree with the poster to do what they will with the poster&#8217;s info).</p>
<p>It takes quite a leap to get from that example to supporting the release to the entire board the poster&#8217;s email/IP for making a post that doesn&#8217;t threaten anyone, regardless of how ignorant and inflammatory it may be.</p>
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