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		<title>By: Shakti</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/03/31/skinny-bitching/#comment-186508</link>
		<dc:creator>Shakti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 12:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this book positive in my life, because it compiled a lot of food info in one place.  Sort of a &quot;Best of&quot; of why to eat organic, no refined sugar, the unhealthy aspects of meat, dairy, etc.  Most of the information was not new to me, but some was, in which cases I checked the authors&#039; information elsewhere.  

I personally found their tone humorous, not offensive, but a) I do not have an eating disorder and b) I have a sarcastic sense of humor anyway.  I think this book would be completely inappropriate for someone with an ED.  However, does that mean it should not have been written?  Must all literature be for all people?

I do, however, think that the authors completely abandoned the whole &quot;health&quot; thing for the &quot;vegan&quot; thing in no time flat, which was disappointing whether one is vegan or not.  As one million other people have already observed, they spend a whole chapter on how refined sugar and artificial sweeteners are unhealthy, and yet their &quot;shopping lists&quot; are full of sweet vegan foods.  Yuck.

All in all, This book helped me make some good changes.  I would recommend it to some friends but not others.  And as for a good vegan book, I would recommend &lt;strong&gt;voluptuous vegan&lt;/strong&gt; or &lt;strong&gt;vegan with a vengeance&lt;/strong&gt; over this one 100 to 1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this book positive in my life, because it compiled a lot of food info in one place.  Sort of a &#8220;Best of&#8221; of why to eat organic, no refined sugar, the unhealthy aspects of meat, dairy, etc.  Most of the information was not new to me, but some was, in which cases I checked the authors&#8217; information elsewhere.  </p>
<p>I personally found their tone humorous, not offensive, but a) I do not have an eating disorder and b) I have a sarcastic sense of humor anyway.  I think this book would be completely inappropriate for someone with an ED.  However, does that mean it should not have been written?  Must all literature be for all people?</p>
<p>I do, however, think that the authors completely abandoned the whole &#8220;health&#8221; thing for the &#8220;vegan&#8221; thing in no time flat, which was disappointing whether one is vegan or not.  As one million other people have already observed, they spend a whole chapter on how refined sugar and artificial sweeteners are unhealthy, and yet their &#8220;shopping lists&#8221; are full of sweet vegan foods.  Yuck.</p>
<p>All in all, This book helped me make some good changes.  I would recommend it to some friends but not others.  And as for a good vegan book, I would recommend <strong>voluptuous vegan</strong> or <strong>vegan with a vengeance</strong> over this one 100 to 1.</p>
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		<title>By: Tishku</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/03/31/skinny-bitching/#comment-185133</link>
		<dc:creator>Tishku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my personal training clients gave me this book, just to get my take on it. Pages and pages of verbal and emotional abuse does nothing to motivate an individual to graduate toward Wellness! Yes, Wellness...optimal health and vitality, which is what becoming physically fit SHOULD be about. Not being &quot;Skinny&quot;. &quot;Skinny&quot; is a dangerous word and this book is filled with dangerous suggestions. Starving one&#039;s self for &quot;10 days&quot; or more does NOT lead to fitness. Fitness is a behavior, NOT a body size. I work with many different trainers and clients, comprised of various body types and sizes. I&#039;m proud to say, none of us are &quot;Skinny Bitches&quot;.

The physical journey toward Wellness/Fitness should be well balanced, taking into one&#039;s  account emotional, intellectual and spiritual wellness. Love yourself and love your body. Real knowledge is power. Would you attempt to build a computer or anything for that matter, without first knowing all the parts involved? Educate yourself! Get to know your body, it&#039;s anatomy and physiology. Your body is a fuel efficient, adaptable therefore moldable machine. Learn what your body has the ability to become and how it responds to the environment. 

All in all, bad book. Dangerous advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my personal training clients gave me this book, just to get my take on it. Pages and pages of verbal and emotional abuse does nothing to motivate an individual to graduate toward Wellness! Yes, Wellness&#8230;optimal health and vitality, which is what becoming physically fit SHOULD be about. Not being &#8220;Skinny&#8221;. &#8220;Skinny&#8221; is a dangerous word and this book is filled with dangerous suggestions. Starving one&#8217;s self for &#8220;10 days&#8221; or more does NOT lead to fitness. Fitness is a behavior, NOT a body size. I work with many different trainers and clients, comprised of various body types and sizes. I&#8217;m proud to say, none of us are &#8220;Skinny Bitches&#8221;.</p>
<p>The physical journey toward Wellness/Fitness should be well balanced, taking into one&#8217;s  account emotional, intellectual and spiritual wellness. Love yourself and love your body. Real knowledge is power. Would you attempt to build a computer or anything for that matter, without first knowing all the parts involved? Educate yourself! Get to know your body, it&#8217;s anatomy and physiology. Your body is a fuel efficient, adaptable therefore moldable machine. Learn what your body has the ability to become and how it responds to the environment. </p>
<p>All in all, bad book. Dangerous advice.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the book on a T.V. show a few weeks ago.  I was bored and in Barns and Noble, so I took a look at the book.  I did find a lot of the information was good, and some of the reasons for it.  I didn&#039;t know that alot of the artificial sweetners are as unhealthy as they are.  No did I know how bad sugar was.

In college, I did the vegetarian thing (It was the cool thing to do), but I never went vegan. I don&#039;t plan to go vegan either, but I will probably go vegetarian again after reading this book. ~ 

I found the book very tongue in cheek, and sarcastic. It was a tough love approach, and for some women, that is exactly the kick they need to feel motivated to start a diet. 

Overall, read it. Take the advice you need, and ignore the rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the book on a T.V. show a few weeks ago.  I was bored and in Barns and Noble, so I took a look at the book.  I did find a lot of the information was good, and some of the reasons for it.  I didn&#8217;t know that alot of the artificial sweetners are as unhealthy as they are.  No did I know how bad sugar was.</p>
<p>In college, I did the vegetarian thing (It was the cool thing to do), but I never went vegan. I don&#8217;t plan to go vegan either, but I will probably go vegetarian again after reading this book. ~ </p>
<p>I found the book very tongue in cheek, and sarcastic. It was a tough love approach, and for some women, that is exactly the kick they need to feel motivated to start a diet. </p>
<p>Overall, read it. Take the advice you need, and ignore the rest.</p>
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		<title>By: Aimee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aimee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about you just read the book, don&#039;t get offended about &lt;em&gt;how&lt;/em&gt; they talk, and use your brain to decide if what they are saying (not how or why) makes sense or is true.  I have read it, purchased it and I&#039;m glad that I&#039;ve been given this information.  I don&#039;t need to feel angry or offended, just informed.  I don&#039;t believe that its wrong to eat animals, but I don&#039;t want to eat sick ones- gross.  I just want to know what I&#039;m putting in my body- I&#039;m just not sure most people on this post got that.  Try to just read the words, forget about the authors and how skinny they are or aren&#039;t, whether they are feminists or not, and whether they love or hate animals too much.  Just read the facts and then decide- with no emotion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about you just read the book, don&#8217;t get offended about <em>how</em> they talk, and use your brain to decide if what they are saying (not how or why) makes sense or is true.  I have read it, purchased it and I&#8217;m glad that I&#8217;ve been given this information.  I don&#8217;t need to feel angry or offended, just informed.  I don&#8217;t believe that its wrong to eat animals, but I don&#8217;t want to eat sick ones- gross.  I just want to know what I&#8217;m putting in my body- I&#8217;m just not sure most people on this post got that.  Try to just read the words, forget about the authors and how skinny they are or aren&#8217;t, whether they are feminists or not, and whether they love or hate animals too much.  Just read the facts and then decide- with no emotion.</p>
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		<title>By: Allison</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/03/31/skinny-bitching/#comment-180934</link>
		<dc:creator>Allison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Piny: There are vegan books and vegan cookbooks out there that are based on veganism as a moral choice, a health choice, or an art form. They might not sell as well as Skinny Bitch (or any other fashion, makeup, or diet guide), but they don’t insult their audience.

I&#039;m not pro-Skinny Bitch, but I just want to point a few things out that I believe are positive about the book. 

First, the book starts with discussing how unethical the FDA and USDA are, how many products they&#039;ve approved that are clearly sketchy, and how important it is to read labels, do our own research and be informed about our consumer choices. They specifically talk about how aspartame was denied FDA approval for food usage eight times. I don&#039;t find anything about this tenet of the book to be insulting, anti-feminist or pro-eating disorder. 

Another chapter is devoted to narratives from &quot;Slaughterhouse,&quot; a book about the cruelties in the dairy and meat industries. This chapter discusses how gross these industries are, and specifically connects that back to &lt;em&gt;distrusting mainstream health information&lt;/em&gt; (and bad science) especially when studies are funded by these industries. This chapter sounds a lot like the logic employed by a recent online article by Bitch magazine about bad science used to reinforce sexist stereotypes. 

I do find it ludricrous that the book contains a one page disclaimer&lt;em&gt; at the &lt;/em&gt;very end&lt;em&gt; of the book about how they&#039;re &#039;just kidding! The authors don&#039;t really care about being skinny!&#039; Also, they do suggest an ideal eating plan that is extremely low in fat and calories, and mostly fruit and veggies. But every other vegan cookbook (healthy-moral-or-art-related) suggests the elimination of several food groups as well! That argument can&#039;t only apply to Skinny Bitch. The book also says that exercise in moderation is good, but going overboard is a serious problem because its relationship with eating disorders. 

Ultimately, the book has certainly has problems and, I believe, some topics that are good for mainstream diet book-readers to know about. 

P.S. These are great comments, ladies! I love this forum!&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Piny: There are vegan books and vegan cookbooks out there that are based on veganism as a moral choice, a health choice, or an art form. They might not sell as well as Skinny Bitch (or any other fashion, makeup, or diet guide), but they don’t insult their audience.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not pro-Skinny Bitch, but I just want to point a few things out that I believe are positive about the book. </p>
<p>First, the book starts with discussing how unethical the FDA and USDA are, how many products they&#8217;ve approved that are clearly sketchy, and how important it is to read labels, do our own research and be informed about our consumer choices. They specifically talk about how aspartame was denied FDA approval for food usage eight times. I don&#8217;t find anything about this tenet of the book to be insulting, anti-feminist or pro-eating disorder. </p>
<p>Another chapter is devoted to narratives from &#8220;Slaughterhouse,&#8221; a book about the cruelties in the dairy and meat industries. This chapter discusses how gross these industries are, and specifically connects that back to <em>distrusting mainstream health information</em> (and bad science) especially when studies are funded by these industries. This chapter sounds a lot like the logic employed by a recent online article by Bitch magazine about bad science used to reinforce sexist stereotypes. </p>
<p>I do find it ludricrous that the book contains a one page disclaimer<em> at the </em>very end<em> of the book about how they&#8217;re &#8216;just kidding! The authors don&#8217;t really care about being skinny!&#8217; Also, they do suggest an ideal eating plan that is extremely low in fat and calories, and mostly fruit and veggies. But every other vegan cookbook (healthy-moral-or-art-related) suggests the elimination of several food groups as well! That argument can&#8217;t only apply to Skinny Bitch. The book also says that exercise in moderation is good, but going overboard is a serious problem because its relationship with eating disorders. </p>
<p>Ultimately, the book has certainly has problems and, I believe, some topics that are good for mainstream diet book-readers to know about. </p>
<p>P.S. These are great comments, ladies! I love this forum!</em></p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/03/31/skinny-bitching/#comment-173802</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 01:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have any of you read the book? You are all talking bollocks! It does say in the book that being a &#039;skinny bitch&#039; means being fabulous whatever your weight, loving yourself, being healthy. It explains that it is an animal rights book, but that the weightloss aspect sells. And do you expect a book called Skinny BITCH to be kind!??! I read this and loved it. It was a laugh. It really was. I&#039;m mentally stable. I&#039;m secure and have self esteem. And an author who, in her own words, swears like a sailor, isn&#039;t going to make me cry into my coffee, begin to hate myself, and become anorexic. I&#039;ve been vegan since reading it. I lost a little weight, I&#039;m a stable 68kgs. I feel fantastic. I don&#039;t starve. The main idea of the book is not becoming a skinny bitch, weight wise. And while skinny may not equate to being healthy, being FAT doesn&#039;t either. It is so politically incorrect to suggest that having a huge lard-arse may not be the best thing for your bones, heart, all of your body! Seriously, it isn&#039;t healthy. Neither is being super skinny  in most cases, but neither of these women are. Ok, the medication for cramping bit, fair enough...I thought that was a little unwarranted. But that is a couple of lines in the whole book. Get a grip, get your lard arse off the sofa, think about what you are putting in your body. This is the main idea in the book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have any of you read the book? You are all talking bollocks! It does say in the book that being a &#8216;skinny bitch&#8217; means being fabulous whatever your weight, loving yourself, being healthy. It explains that it is an animal rights book, but that the weightloss aspect sells. And do you expect a book called Skinny BITCH to be kind!??! I read this and loved it. It was a laugh. It really was. I&#8217;m mentally stable. I&#8217;m secure and have self esteem. And an author who, in her own words, swears like a sailor, isn&#8217;t going to make me cry into my coffee, begin to hate myself, and become anorexic. I&#8217;ve been vegan since reading it. I lost a little weight, I&#8217;m a stable 68kgs. I feel fantastic. I don&#8217;t starve. The main idea of the book is not becoming a skinny bitch, weight wise. And while skinny may not equate to being healthy, being FAT doesn&#8217;t either. It is so politically incorrect to suggest that having a huge lard-arse may not be the best thing for your bones, heart, all of your body! Seriously, it isn&#8217;t healthy. Neither is being super skinny  in most cases, but neither of these women are. Ok, the medication for cramping bit, fair enough&#8230;I thought that was a little unwarranted. But that is a couple of lines in the whole book. Get a grip, get your lard arse off the sofa, think about what you are putting in your body. This is the main idea in the book.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Banks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Banks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Skinny Bitch message is an &lt;strong&gt;ULTIMATE PUT DOWN TO FAT CHICKS EVERWHERE&lt;/strong&gt;. They go out of their way to make sure that you don&#039;t think for one minute that they were ever fat or one of &quot;us&quot;, the reader. Their message: &quot;Let us show you the way, losers, and we&#039;ll give you inside dieting tips.&quot; What about accepting emotionally and physically your body type? Today! Then, you can do whatever you want - lose weight, who cares?
 
Hey, skinnybitch! I have the counter-point to your book. Go read my book, Embracing Your Big Fat Ass. (Simon and Schuster, June 2008) We say celebrate your fat ass, hang streamers on it. Take medication if you need to. And by all means, stop trying to get skinny. While you are attempting &#039;skinny&#039; you become exactly like these to chicks - grumpy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Skinny Bitch message is an <strong>ULTIMATE PUT DOWN TO FAT CHICKS EVERWHERE</strong>. They go out of their way to make sure that you don&#8217;t think for one minute that they were ever fat or one of &#8220;us&#8221;, the reader. Their message: &#8220;Let us show you the way, losers, and we&#8217;ll give you inside dieting tips.&#8221; What about accepting emotionally and physically your body type? Today! Then, you can do whatever you want &#8211; lose weight, who cares?</p>
<p>Hey, skinnybitch! I have the counter-point to your book. Go read my book, Embracing Your Big Fat Ass. (Simon and Schuster, June 2008) We say celebrate your fat ass, hang streamers on it. Take medication if you need to. And by all means, stop trying to get skinny. While you are attempting &#8216;skinny&#8217; you become exactly like these to chicks &#8211; grumpy.</p>
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		<title>By: anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 01:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like GallingGalla above i am also naturally skinny, and people assuming I am ill just because of my body shape, is frankly, getting old. i have been taunted and commented at since I was about 12 for the way i look and im 26 now, wouldnt you think i would have lost some weight in these 14 years if i was anorexic? what i can say is that everyone is different, and if someone is healthy and  slim or healthy and a bit bigger thats all good, its just when people try to be an unnatural shape for their body type when its bad, and making it seem that being vegan is the way to that is just wrong. im not vegan but my friend is and she gained weight when she became vegan, but didnt mind whatsoever. i have not seen this book but it seems just another way into forcing women into a shape that they are not, which creates a bad name for vegans, not all vegans are because they want to be skinny. 
isnt it kinda odd that you are hated when you are actually skinny, but made to hate yourself if you are not? its like women cant win, we are just supposed to hate and be hated whatever we look like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like GallingGalla above i am also naturally skinny, and people assuming I am ill just because of my body shape, is frankly, getting old. i have been taunted and commented at since I was about 12 for the way i look and im 26 now, wouldnt you think i would have lost some weight in these 14 years if i was anorexic? what i can say is that everyone is different, and if someone is healthy and  slim or healthy and a bit bigger thats all good, its just when people try to be an unnatural shape for their body type when its bad, and making it seem that being vegan is the way to that is just wrong. im not vegan but my friend is and she gained weight when she became vegan, but didnt mind whatsoever. i have not seen this book but it seems just another way into forcing women into a shape that they are not, which creates a bad name for vegans, not all vegans are because they want to be skinny.<br />
isnt it kinda odd that you are hated when you are actually skinny, but made to hate yourself if you are not? its like women cant win, we are just supposed to hate and be hated whatever we look like.</p>
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		<title>By: amanda w</title>
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		<dc:creator>amanda w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

God, people like this are annoying. I can’t imagine how this would read to some woman who’s immobilized by cramps every month.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

*waves hand*

I take fourteen pills a day, minimum, to be able to function -- that is, you know. Shower semi-regularly, prepare my own meals, do some ridiculously small portion of the household cleaning, and work part-time. That&#039;s without having any periods. I wonder what these folks think I&#039;m supposed to do about the little problem of my endometrium growing outside my uterus. For that matter, I wonder what they think about &quot;natural&quot; when it comes to reproductive functions, period -- they should be easy converts for the Quiverfull movement, shouldn&#039;t they? Oh, &lt;em&gt;wait&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
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<p>God, people like this are annoying. I can’t imagine how this would read to some woman who’s immobilized by cramps every month.</p></blockquote>
<p>*waves hand*</p>
<p>I take fourteen pills a day, minimum, to be able to function &#8212; that is, you know. Shower semi-regularly, prepare my own meals, do some ridiculously small portion of the household cleaning, and work part-time. That&#8217;s without having any periods. I wonder what these folks think I&#8217;m supposed to do about the little problem of my endometrium growing outside my uterus. For that matter, I wonder what they think about &#8220;natural&#8221; when it comes to reproductive functions, period &#8212; they should be easy converts for the Quiverfull movement, shouldn&#8217;t they? Oh, <em>wait</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: piny</title>
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		<dc:creator>piny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, no worries!  I post so infrequently that it&#039;s a natural mistake. 

And thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, no worries!  I post so infrequently that it&#8217;s a natural mistake. </p>
<p>And thank you.</p>
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