Comments on: Feministe Feedback – Posting on the Internets Under Your Real Name http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/05/07/feministe-feedback-posting-on-the-internets-under-your-real-name/ In defense of the sanctimonious women's studies set. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:11:18 +0000 hourly 1 By: From the SF Weekly web site http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/05/07/feministe-feedback-posting-on-the-internets-under-your-real-name/#comment-195347 From the SF Weekly web site Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:22:04 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/05/07/feministe-feedback-posting-on-the-internets-under-your-real-name/#comment-195347 I edited this story and I can assure you that Mary did not get fired for this story or any other. Mary decided to leave the paper to take a job with a local documentary filmmaker. She gave her notice before the Wikipedia story was published. She disclosed to me early in the reporting process her sister’s fights with Griot and her sister’s role is mentioned high up in our story. Bottom line: We stand by the story. Comment by Will Harper, Managing Editor, SF Weekly on Feb 26th, 2008, 13:55 pm I edited this story and I can assure you that Mary did not get fired for this story or any other. Mary decided to leave the paper to take a job with a local documentary filmmaker. She gave her notice before the Wikipedia story was published. She disclosed to me early in the reporting process her sister’s fights with Griot and her sister’s role is mentioned high up in our story. Bottom line: We stand by the story.

Comment by Will Harper, Managing Editor, SF Weekly on Feb 26th, 2008, 13:55 pm

]]> By: Sally Eclari http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/05/07/feministe-feedback-posting-on-the-internets-under-your-real-name/#comment-181259 Sally Eclari Mon, 16 Jun 2008 02:53:51 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/05/07/feministe-feedback-posting-on-the-internets-under-your-real-name/#comment-181259 That's fucking ridiculous. Why should Mary Spicuzza have to resign just for that. It's sick, mysoginist, and sexist! That’s fucking ridiculous. Why should Mary Spicuzza have to resign just for that. It’s sick, mysoginist, and sexist!

]]> By: From the SF Weekly web site http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/05/07/feministe-feedback-posting-on-the-internets-under-your-real-name/#comment-179699 From the SF Weekly web site Sat, 07 Jun 2008 00:35:59 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/05/07/feministe-feedback-posting-on-the-internets-under-your-real-name/#comment-179699 I edited this story and I can assure you that Mary did not get fired for this story or any other. Mary decided to leave the paper to take a job with a local documentary filmmaker. She gave her notice before the Wikipedia story was published. She disclosed to me early in the reporting process her sister's fights with Griot and her sister's role is mentioned high up in our story. Bottom line: We stand by the story. Comment by Will Harper, Managing Editor, SF Weekly on Feb 26th, 2008, 13:55 pm "It's funny that Griot complained about getting personal, because I first learned of this particular user, who is reportedly San Francisco–based, during a conversation with my sister, Jeanne, about the plethora of anonymous online vitriol. We were discussing how many in cyberspace write things to each other — often using pseudonyms — that we couldn't imagine saying to people's faces. I mentioned that San Francisco seemed to have a lot of what some call "Internet rage." That's when Jeanne, who is also a writer, told me of a debate over the entry about her in Wikipedia — and of one particular user, Griot, who seemed to be on a no-holds-barred campaign to delete her page after he blamed her for making dubious edits to Ralph Nader's page (which she denies). One Griot note on the talk page of a user called Calton, dated Aug. 27, 2007, reads, "Is there anything we can do about Jean [sic]? It's tiresome. Maybe we should give her back her personal page on Wikpedia so she isn't so lonely." He also accused her of creating several online identities to make a flurry of changes to the Nader entries. "Spicuzza is on the warpath again," Griot wrote to Calton, and made a snarky offer to Calton about my sister: "If you ever need help fending off this multiple personality disorder, don't hesitate to ask." I edited this story and I can assure you that Mary did not get fired for this story or any other. Mary decided to leave the paper to take a job with a local documentary filmmaker. She gave her notice before the Wikipedia story was published. She disclosed to me early in the reporting process her sister’s fights with Griot and her sister’s role is mentioned high up in our story. Bottom line: We stand by the story.

Comment by Will Harper, Managing Editor, SF Weekly on Feb 26th, 2008, 13:55 pm

“It’s funny that Griot complained about getting personal, because I first learned of this particular user, who is reportedly San Francisco–based, during a conversation with my sister, Jeanne, about the plethora of anonymous online vitriol. We were discussing how many in cyberspace write things to each other — often using pseudonyms — that we couldn’t imagine saying to people’s faces. I mentioned that San Francisco seemed to have a lot of what some call “Internet rage.”

That’s when Jeanne, who is also a writer, told me of a debate over the entry about her in Wikipedia — and of one particular user, Griot, who seemed to be on a no-holds-barred campaign to delete her page after he blamed her for making dubious edits to Ralph Nader’s page (which she denies). One Griot note on the talk page of a user called Calton, dated Aug. 27, 2007, reads, “Is there anything we can do about Jean [sic]? It’s tiresome. Maybe we should give her back her personal page on Wikpedia so she isn’t so lonely.” He also accused her of creating several online identities to make a flurry of changes to the Nader entries. “Spicuzza is on the warpath again,” Griot wrote to Calton, and made a snarky offer to Calton about my sister: “If you ever need help fending off this multiple personality disorder, don’t hesitate to ask.”

]]> By: bug_girl http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/05/07/feministe-feedback-posting-on-the-internets-under-your-real-name/#comment-174441 bug_girl Tue, 13 May 2008 17:31:41 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/05/07/feministe-feedback-posting-on-the-internets-under-your-real-name/#comment-174441 I blog under a pseudonym, and I'm currently on blogging vacation because I was "outed." I'm trying to decide if I feel safe enough to go on. I get some pretty crazy trolls on my site, and I also do not have tenure. I have been stalked several times before, and I don't want to go there ever again. I found this post by Merlin Mann pretty spot on: <a href="http://www.43folders.com/2008/04/24/taking-crazy-out-email" rel="nofollow">email combines intimacy and distance in a way that sociopaths really seem to enjoy."</a> I blog under a pseudonym, and I’m currently on blogging vacation because I was “outed.”
I’m trying to decide if I feel safe enough to go on.

I get some pretty crazy trolls on my site, and I also do not have tenure. I have been stalked several times before, and I don’t want to go there ever again.

I found this post by Merlin Mann pretty spot on:
email combines intimacy and distance in a way that sociopaths really seem to enjoy.”

]]> By: Bob Crispen http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/05/07/feministe-feedback-posting-on-the-internets-under-your-real-name/#comment-174105 Bob Crispen Mon, 12 May 2008 10:19:34 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/05/07/feministe-feedback-posting-on-the-internets-under-your-real-name/#comment-174105 I've alwas signed my own emails to lists, forums , blogs, and USENET postings. If anybody decides they don't want to give me a job because of that, I have absolutely zero interest in working for people like that. Better to find out now. If somebody stalks you or makes threatening remarks online or in person,, tell your college police or the office that deals with harrassment. Doing that is solidarity in action., and it demonstrates respect for the people who had to deal with that before schools figured out protecting their students is good idea. Do what you think is right, but that;s what I'd recommend to any friend of mine. I’ve alwas signed my own emails to lists, forums , blogs, and USENET postings.

If anybody decides they don’t want to give me a job because of that, I have absolutely zero interest in working for people like that. Better to find out now.

If somebody stalks you or makes threatening remarks online or in person,, tell your college police or the office that deals with harrassment. Doing that is solidarity in action., and it demonstrates respect for the people who had to deal with that before schools figured out protecting their students is good idea.

Do what you think is right, but that;s what I’d recommend to any friend of mine.

]]> By: bluebonnet http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/05/07/feministe-feedback-posting-on-the-internets-under-your-real-name/#comment-173605 bluebonnet Sat, 10 May 2008 05:58:47 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/05/07/feministe-feedback-posting-on-the-internets-under-your-real-name/#comment-173605 <blockquote>And finally, you never know when some weirdo from Sweden is going to develop a creepy sick obsession with you and attempt to stalk you across the net (not that this has EVER happened to me…)</blockquote> this has happened to me, though! it makes me ill to see how many ppl also think nothing of popping their faces on the net. it just isnt safe if youre a woman/minor. what does it gain you to take a chance? especially on a forum, where people get somewhat intimate with you(r brain).

And finally, you never know when some weirdo from Sweden is going to develop a creepy sick obsession with you and attempt to stalk you across the net (not that this has EVER happened to me…)

this has happened to me, though!

it makes me ill to see how many ppl also think nothing of popping their faces on the net. it just isnt safe if youre a woman/minor. what does it gain you to take a chance? especially on a forum, where people get somewhat intimate with you(r brain).

]]> By: bluebonnet http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/05/07/feministe-feedback-posting-on-the-internets-under-your-real-name/#comment-173603 bluebonnet Sat, 10 May 2008 05:54:59 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/05/07/feministe-feedback-posting-on-the-internets-under-your-real-name/#comment-173603 knowledge is power & you dont want to be handing power over to anyone who can just google you. this also means that you should be keeping your aliases secret as much as your real name. knowledge is power & you dont want to be handing power over to anyone who can just google you. this also means that you should be keeping your aliases secret as much as your real name.

]]> By: Diamante http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/05/07/feministe-feedback-posting-on-the-internets-under-your-real-name/#comment-173526 Diamante Fri, 09 May 2008 22:55:45 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/05/07/feministe-feedback-posting-on-the-internets-under-your-real-name/#comment-173526 I always use a pseudonym. I'm a teacher and I really don't want parents doing a search on my name and finding even something innocent like a posting of a really good recipe under my name. Even if I wasn't a teacher, I don't think my colleagues need to know which blogs I read, what I do or where I go. And finally, you never know when some weirdo from Sweden is going to develop a creepy sick obsession with you and attempt to stalk you across the net (not that this has EVER happened to me...) I always use a pseudonym. I’m a teacher and I really don’t want parents doing a search on my name and finding even something innocent like a posting of a really good recipe under my name. Even if I wasn’t a teacher, I don’t think my colleagues need to know which blogs I read, what I do or where I go. And finally, you never know when some weirdo from Sweden is going to develop a creepy sick obsession with you and attempt to stalk you across the net (not that this has EVER happened to me…)

]]> By: Radfem http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/05/07/feministe-feedback-posting-on-the-internets-under-your-real-name/#comment-173156 Radfem Thu, 08 May 2008 15:17:27 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/05/07/feministe-feedback-posting-on-the-internets-under-your-real-name/#comment-173156 <blockquote>There’s a lot of personal-security male privilege going on in this issue, and because of it, a lot of men who take anyone pseudonymous less seriously.</blockquote> Yes, I've noticed this. Cyberharassment and cyberstalking seems to largely impact women, especially women of color who blog.

There’s a lot of personal-security male privilege going on in this issue, and because of it, a lot of men who take anyone pseudonymous less seriously.

Yes, I’ve noticed this. Cyberharassment and cyberstalking seems to largely impact women, especially women of color who blog.

]]> By: Robyn http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/05/07/feministe-feedback-posting-on-the-internets-under-your-real-name/#comment-173052 Robyn Thu, 08 May 2008 06:15:58 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/05/07/feministe-feedback-posting-on-the-internets-under-your-real-name/#comment-173052 I'm fine with using my real first name in comments. I also have a livejournal and myspace, which are friends only. I never link to either from another forum or blog comment, because they still have a lot of info on my identity viewable to the public. I do post in some myspace groups about some personal and political stuff, but i am ok with that, since all those people can see is my username and picture. I also NEVER use my last name if i can help it. I've been thinking about starting a blog this summer, and debating on whether to use existing nicknames or create a whole new pseudonym.. I think i'll make a whole new pseudonym. I’m fine with using my real first name in comments. I also have a livejournal and myspace, which are friends only. I never link to either from another forum or blog comment, because they still have a lot of info on my identity viewable to the public. I do post in some myspace groups about some personal and political stuff, but i am ok with that, since all those people can see is my username and picture. I also NEVER use my last name if i can help it.
I’ve been thinking about starting a blog this summer, and debating on whether to use existing nicknames or create a whole new pseudonym.. I think i’ll make a whole new pseudonym.

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