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	<title>Comments on: If you wear a black &amp; white scarf, the terrorists win</title>
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		<title>By: J.O.</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nevermind. I recently did a little research and found out more about the Keffiyeh, how people view it, and basically why I shouldn&#039;t wear one myslef(no disrespect to anybody who does whear one though).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nevermind. I recently did a little research and found out more about the Keffiyeh, how people view it, and basically why I shouldn&#8217;t wear one myslef(no disrespect to anybody who does whear one though).</p>
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		<title>By: J.O.</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/05/24/if-you-wear-a-black-white-scarf-the-terrorists-win/#comment-186709</link>
		<dc:creator>J.O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 07:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would just like to know if Palestinian people find Americans(or anyone not really of thier religion and beliefs) wearing Keffiyehs offensive or disrespectful because I recently start seeing people wear them, but until I saw this article I didn&#039;t know how to feel about it...Can somebody please tell me bcuz the main thing for me personally is not to wear it if it offends people who orignally wore them as a religious symbol or whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would just like to know if Palestinian people find Americans(or anyone not really of thier religion and beliefs) wearing Keffiyehs offensive or disrespectful because I recently start seeing people wear them, but until I saw this article I didn&#8217;t know how to feel about it&#8230;Can somebody please tell me bcuz the main thing for me personally is not to wear it if it offends people who orignally wore them as a religious symbol or whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: adybee</title>
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		<dc:creator>adybee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 07:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are frightened of a black and white scarf I reckon the terrorists are already winning...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are frightened of a black and white scarf I reckon the terrorists are already winning&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kreutznauer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kreutznauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 00:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok.  The scarf may or may not be good fashion, bad fashion, a political statement, or a sad attempt thereto by a Food Network tv chef.  Whatever.  There is this certainty:  Dunkin Donuts pulled the ad.  Over something contrived and inane, this corporation pulled the ad.  If you feel that was a cowardly, pathetic, ludicrous thing to do for this contrived, pathetic, ludicrous bit of right-wing effluvia, then, leave this site and go to Dunkin Donuts&#039; site and tell them.  Then, stop buying their products.  Remind your friends to stop buying their products.  If you own or operate a coffee shop put out a sign telling the world that YOU did not pull an ad because an idiot suggested you should.  Buy some cops donuts and coffee from someplace not Dunkin Donuts.  Make them LOSE money.  It is the appropriate response to this sort of non-sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok.  The scarf may or may not be good fashion, bad fashion, a political statement, or a sad attempt thereto by a Food Network tv chef.  Whatever.  There is this certainty:  Dunkin Donuts pulled the ad.  Over something contrived and inane, this corporation pulled the ad.  If you feel that was a cowardly, pathetic, ludicrous thing to do for this contrived, pathetic, ludicrous bit of right-wing effluvia, then, leave this site and go to Dunkin Donuts&#8217; site and tell them.  Then, stop buying their products.  Remind your friends to stop buying their products.  If you own or operate a coffee shop put out a sign telling the world that YOU did not pull an ad because an idiot suggested you should.  Buy some cops donuts and coffee from someplace not Dunkin Donuts.  Make them LOSE money.  It is the appropriate response to this sort of non-sense.</p>
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		<title>By: pappy</title>
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		<dc:creator>pappy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 00:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting.  Its racism of course, plain and simple.  Its like if Coke pulled a Bill Cosby ad because his black skin was insensitive to people who had had crimes committed against them by people with black skin.

I don&#039;t think Dunkin Donuts or capitalism in general is racist in itself.  Its just a basic tool in the toolbox for splitting people up, keeping them disorganized and breaking down the social bonds that lead people to have supportive feelings about each other.  This de-socialization is really a key element in getting wealth and decision making into the hands of private power.  Divide and conquer.  Identity politics.  Its complicated &#039;tho.  You have to pick a vulnerable target to match the situation, and you can&#039;t go too far, or it can backfire.  Right now in many situations of course Arabic peoples are the vulnerable target.  A good media person has good instincts here, that&#039;s how you get ahead in the game and maximize funding from the advertisers.   Michelle Malkin&#039;s nationally syndicated column is doing very well. 

On her website it looks like she&#039;s also having fun with several other people dividers.  Illegal immigrants is a great program of course, it attacks us on so many levels.  It incorporates racism, but also increases the percentage of the working class who have no political or social rights at all.  It drives down wages, pitting legal and illegal sectors of the working class against each other instead of uniting in common interest against the ruling class, etc.  That&#039;s why we have it, not porous borders.  Other countries with more difficult borders maintain 100% control when they want to.  In Europe they chose to use the &quot;guest worker&quot; program to split people up, some of the ruling class wants to implement that in the US now, that&#039;s what they&#039;re talking about on the TV when they say &quot;immigration reform&quot;.  

More interesting on the web site is how Malkin is working on splitting up the coffee drinkers.  Dunkin Donuts (&quot;conservative&quot;) vs. Starbucks (&quot;liberal&quot;).  This corresponds to a big effort here throughout the media, check it out on your computer.  Its usually in the context of &quot;conservative&quot; verses &quot;liberal&quot;.   Consistent efforts to portray country music as &quot;conservative&quot; and rock music as &quot;liberal&quot;, gun nuts as &quot;conservative&quot; and non-gun nuts as &quot;liberal&quot;, Christians as conservative, etc.  Which of course in the reality of everyday people is bullshit.  The Beach Boys are Reaganites and Merl Haggard loves Hilary Clinton, etc.  Right wing gays and hippys abound, I know some.  The actual social mores of a &quot;conservative&quot; bible belt person of course exceed the wildest decadent fantasies of your stereotypical &quot;east coast liberal&quot; intellectual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.  Its racism of course, plain and simple.  Its like if Coke pulled a Bill Cosby ad because his black skin was insensitive to people who had had crimes committed against them by people with black skin.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Dunkin Donuts or capitalism in general is racist in itself.  Its just a basic tool in the toolbox for splitting people up, keeping them disorganized and breaking down the social bonds that lead people to have supportive feelings about each other.  This de-socialization is really a key element in getting wealth and decision making into the hands of private power.  Divide and conquer.  Identity politics.  Its complicated &#8216;tho.  You have to pick a vulnerable target to match the situation, and you can&#8217;t go too far, or it can backfire.  Right now in many situations of course Arabic peoples are the vulnerable target.  A good media person has good instincts here, that&#8217;s how you get ahead in the game and maximize funding from the advertisers.   Michelle Malkin&#8217;s nationally syndicated column is doing very well. </p>
<p>On her website it looks like she&#8217;s also having fun with several other people dividers.  Illegal immigrants is a great program of course, it attacks us on so many levels.  It incorporates racism, but also increases the percentage of the working class who have no political or social rights at all.  It drives down wages, pitting legal and illegal sectors of the working class against each other instead of uniting in common interest against the ruling class, etc.  That&#8217;s why we have it, not porous borders.  Other countries with more difficult borders maintain 100% control when they want to.  In Europe they chose to use the &#8220;guest worker&#8221; program to split people up, some of the ruling class wants to implement that in the US now, that&#8217;s what they&#8217;re talking about on the TV when they say &#8220;immigration reform&#8221;.  </p>
<p>More interesting on the web site is how Malkin is working on splitting up the coffee drinkers.  Dunkin Donuts (&#8220;conservative&#8221;) vs. Starbucks (&#8220;liberal&#8221;).  This corresponds to a big effort here throughout the media, check it out on your computer.  Its usually in the context of &#8220;conservative&#8221; verses &#8220;liberal&#8221;.   Consistent efforts to portray country music as &#8220;conservative&#8221; and rock music as &#8220;liberal&#8221;, gun nuts as &#8220;conservative&#8221; and non-gun nuts as &#8220;liberal&#8221;, Christians as conservative, etc.  Which of course in the reality of everyday people is bullshit.  The Beach Boys are Reaganites and Merl Haggard loves Hilary Clinton, etc.  Right wing gays and hippys abound, I know some.  The actual social mores of a &#8220;conservative&#8221; bible belt person of course exceed the wildest decadent fantasies of your stereotypical &#8220;east coast liberal&#8221; intellectual.</p>
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		<title>By: rachel ray s scarf</title>
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		<dc:creator>rachel ray s scarf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 10:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the celebrity chef wore &#8230;cbs4denver.com/entertainment/rachael.ray.scarf.2.735813.html - 40k - Feministe » If you wear a black &amp; white scarf, the terrorists win24 May 2008 &#8230; Rachael Ray’s scarf doesn’t look like a keffiyeh. It does look like melting [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the celebrity chef wore &#8230;cbs4denver.com/entertainment/rachael.ray.scarf.2.735813.html &#8211; 40k &#8211; Feministe » If you wear a black &amp; white scarf, the terrorists win24 May 2008 &#8230; Rachael Ray’s scarf doesn’t look like a keffiyeh. It does look like melting [...]</p>
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		<title>By: bastard.logic</title>
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		<dc:creator>bastard.logic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 00:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;I write letters to the&#160;enemy...&lt;/strong&gt;

Dear Wingnuttia,
Congratulations.  With this latest five-alarm inferno of assembly-line red-bating stupid you have finally roasted the shark that you gleefully keep jumping over and covered its charred remains in a burial shroud that maybe-kinda-sorta...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>I write letters to the&nbsp;enemy&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Dear Wingnuttia,<br />
Congratulations.  With this latest five-alarm inferno of assembly-line red-bating stupid you have finally roasted the shark that you gleefully keep jumping over and covered its charred remains in a burial shroud that maybe-kinda-sorta&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Non-Traditional Black &#38; White Scarf = Terrorists Win &#171; The Mustard Seed</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/05/24/if-you-wear-a-black-white-scarf-the-terrorists-win/#comment-178387</link>
		<dc:creator>Non-Traditional Black &#38; White Scarf = Terrorists Win &#171; The Mustard Seed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 03:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blogs: Although I have to say I laughed out loud at the phrase “hate couture.” The thing is, if you [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] blogs: Although I have to say I laughed out loud at the phrase “hate couture.” The thing is, if you [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Non-Traditional Black &#38; White Scarf = Terrorists Win &#171; The Blog and the Bullet</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/05/24/if-you-wear-a-black-white-scarf-the-terrorists-win/#comment-178386</link>
		<dc:creator>Non-Traditional Black &#38; White Scarf = Terrorists Win &#171; The Blog and the Bullet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 02:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by Dunkin Donuts over Rachel Ray wearing a non-pollitcally aligned black and white keffiyeh, Holly blogs: Although I have to say I laughed out loud at the phrase “hate couture.” The thing is, if you [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by Dunkin Donuts over Rachel Ray wearing a non-pollitcally aligned black and white keffiyeh, Holly blogs: Although I have to say I laughed out loud at the phrase “hate couture.” The thing is, if you [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mnemosyne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mnemosyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 22:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we&#039;re going to talk about appropriation of symbolism from foreign cultures that travels to the US and becomes kitsch, then we need to talk about stuff like the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chinagrillmgt.com/redSquare/main.cfm?pp=0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Red Square bar in Las Vegas&lt;/a&gt;, which uses the trappings of the Soviet era to sell overpriced vodka.

I think that using the symbols of a murderous dictatorship for that purpose is probably a lot more upsetting to a lot more people (like, say, many of the Armenians who have immigrated to the United States and congregated in the western states) than a vaguely kaffiyeh-looking scarf showing up in a TV commercial.  But, then, we&#039;re talking about people who actually suffered through living in the Soviet Union under that regime.  Comparing their sufferings to 9/11 is pretty out of proportion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we&#8217;re going to talk about appropriation of symbolism from foreign cultures that travels to the US and becomes kitsch, then we need to talk about stuff like the <a href="http://www.chinagrillmgt.com/redSquare/main.cfm?pp=0" rel="nofollow">Red Square bar in Las Vegas</a>, which uses the trappings of the Soviet era to sell overpriced vodka.</p>
<p>I think that using the symbols of a murderous dictatorship for that purpose is probably a lot more upsetting to a lot more people (like, say, many of the Armenians who have immigrated to the United States and congregated in the western states) than a vaguely kaffiyeh-looking scarf showing up in a TV commercial.  But, then, we&#8217;re talking about people who actually suffered through living in the Soviet Union under that regime.  Comparing their sufferings to 9/11 is pretty out of proportion.</p>
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