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    Cara 5.29.2008 at 11:05 pm |

    OKAY I WAS JUST GOING TO PUT THIS POST UP.

    BUT YOU DID IT FIRST.

    I CAN CURRENTLY ONLY TYPE IN ALL CAPS BECAUSE OF THE EXTREMELY HIGH LEVEL OF AWESOME.

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    Loretta 5.29.2008 at 11:10 pm |

    OMG. Seriously.

    I like The Tailsection and Dark UFO a lot too.

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    Cara 5.29.2008 at 11:15 pm |

    No (slightly more) seriously, though.

    1. Thank god Desmond lived because I was worried about him the whole episode, since we knew he wasn’t one of the Oceanic 6 and was never mentioned in any of the flash-forwards.

    2. Des and Penny!!! Awww!

    3. More Sayid, pls. I loved his on island-look, but the off-island style? Daaaaaammmn.

    4. I so wanted Sayid to kill that evil mercenary dude whose name I can never remember. I guess it made more sense for Ben to get to do it, but Sayid always kills the bad guys in ways that are awesome.

    5. Dude, Locke. WTF?

    6. Sawyer! So sweet I was almost crying! What the hell did he tell Kate? My guess is that he wanted her to raise Aaron, since he felt responsible for him after he lost Clare and all.

    7. What happened to Michael? Walt suggested that he got out alive, but all we saw was Christian show up.

    8. Jin :( We know that he was going to die, but . . . so sad and so fucked up.

    9. Why was Kate so mad at Jack over Locke? What happened that made lying such a bad idea?

    10. Where the hell is Faraday? Dead? Floating around in the ocean?

    Okay, I’m out of numbers. But I think you’re right that it just may be the best season finale yet. Number 2 is some pretty stiff competition, but I think they might have pulled it off.

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    mandi 5.29.2008 at 11:27 pm |

    So much going on! My younger brother is just getting into Lost and was giving me his impressions of the episode in Season 1 where Sun reveals that she speaks English. It took a lot for me not to say, “Yeah yeah yeah, but how did Locke die?!” :) Poor guy.

    1. Desmond and Penny reunion! Beautiful people from the British Isles making out really does it for me.

    2. Jin!! Michael!! Nooooo!! :(

    3. Ben is just like Darth Cheney with his indifferent “So?”

    4. Is Charlotte Annie (Ben’s childhood buddy)? But then why would Ben have shot her?

    5. Most importantly, how the EFF did Locke get off the island, and why did he die? Did his legs re-paralyze? Could his body not handle it? What was he doing back there to begin with? Ben’s statement to Locke when they parted ways, “I’m sorry I made your life miserable” really struck me. There’s been speculation since ‘Cabin Fever’ that Locke was supposed to be the leader of the Others by way of a prophecy (a car crash, mother named Emily L.), but Ben also fit the description (or something like that!). Does Ben know that Locke was supposed to lead the Others and not have such a crap life?

    Pet peeve 1: For all the talk of the Orchid, I wish we had seen a little more of it.

    Pet peeve 2: I’d like more Miles; I think he is unbelievably hot.

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    Cara 5.29.2008 at 11:32 pm |

    Mandi, I was thinking the same thing about Charlotte. I was waiting for the new female character who they didn’t instantly kill off to get interesting. About damn time.

    Miles doesn’t do it for me, but I’d like to see more of him too because I like his character. I also really, really hope that Faraday is still alive because I feel like there has to be something really interesting going on with him, and also that he and Desmond aren’t done yet.

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    crow 5.29.2008 at 11:33 pm |

    It’s funny how no one ever catches on to the fact that Ben kills people. They’re always like “why did you do that?!”

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    Kay Olson 5.29.2008 at 11:35 pm |

    That was another fake commercial in there toward the end, right? I missed seeing it all.

    Also: Holy crap that was good.

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    mandi 5.29.2008 at 11:43 pm |

    I think my Miles infatuation is not shared by many. He is awfully tiny! :)

    I think/hope Faraday is alive. When anyone refers to “the Island,” that must mean the second, smaller island as well because that was gone too. And in the S2 finale, Desmond said the boat couldn’t get away from the island because they were in a “snowglobe.” So I’m hoping Faraday was in the snowglobe.

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    Hops 5.29.2008 at 11:51 pm |

    I have 2 things to say about this:

    1) Des & Pen! YES!

    2) WHERE DID THE ISLAND GO?

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    PurplePurple 5.30.2008 at 2:31 am |

    1. Those on the freighter… I may be mistaken, but what was the deal mentioned a few episodes back about Michael not being able to be killed? And the same thing came up when Ben surprised Charles Widmore in his room. Are some people who’ve been on the island immortal? If so, perhaps we don’t need to worry about those folks on the freighter. Which brings me to Jin…

    2. We saw his grave stone, which was marked with his date of death, but that would coincide with Sun and the other 5′s lie that they were the only survivors. Sun believes he’s dead, so she doesn’t think she’s lying about that, but I would bet some money that those people on the freighter (at least some of them) will show up alive again. And not in the Christian Shepard/ Claire sort of alive.

    3. Sawyer. Kate said in a flash forward that she took care of something for Sawyer, the something he probably whispered in her ear before he jumped out of the helicopter. I think it has something to do with the woman he conned in the Long Con and the child he has out there. I think if he thought he was going to die, he’d want Kate to contact them and do one last right thing.

    4. Locke. I knew from the first funeral flash forward, when Jack said the dead person was neither “friend nor family.” Locke was probably the only person Jack would describe that way, and yet still be distraught at the death. It couldn’t have been Ben, since he’s immortal (?), off the island. I also knew that Matthew Fox had been surprised when he learned who was in the casket, so I figured it would be Locke. But still, how/why is he dead, and off the island?

    So many questions, so many reasons to love this show.

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    PurplePurple 5.30.2008 at 2:41 am |

    Oops, also to Hops, #2:

    The island’s “disappearance” seems complicated, but was explained to Locke in the Orchid. When the Dharma guy placed the bunny in the chamber, they used the negative energy located near the Orchid station to send the bunny through time, a few seconds ahead. As the bunny “time traveled” it would seem to disappear for a few moments. Sort of a larger scale experiment than the one that Faraday ran on his rat in the lab with Desmond.

    Making the island disappear was harder to understand, but if I got it right… Ben put all the metal into the chamber to create the opposite effect of the experiment with the bunny. When he put the metal in, the chamber exploded, reversing the energy charge to effect what is outsidethe chamber instead of inside it. Then when he went “down through the looking glass/rabbit hole into the snow, and turned that huge lever, he sent the islandthrough time and space, rather than what was inside the chamber. That would make the island seem to disappear, but it would reappear soon after. I think the Oceanic 6 missed its reappearance, and I have no idea what effect that would have on the people on the island.

    I don’t know if that’s right, but that seems to be the easiest explanation drawing from that Dharma video.

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    Jane C. 5.30.2008 at 4:59 am |

    Uhh…not to rain on the Lost lovin’ parade, but what’s up with the ad at the end of this post for “Vietnamese beauties on vietnamcupid.com”? I know that you all probably don’t have control of what ads pop up on your site, but it’s still really jarring to see an ad that totally objectifies and fetishizes Vietnamese women on a feminist website.

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    Daomadan 5.30.2008 at 8:44 am |

    Finale was……..I still can’t articulate how awesome it was!

    What I can articulate right now is DESMOND AND PENNY!

    And oh wow….Locke in the box.

    Charlotte=Annie?

    And Daniel better be alive because I love his character.

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    earlgreyrooibos 5.30.2008 at 9:38 am |

    I could not believe how amazing that was. I was so glad about the Desmond/Penny reunion, because we needed at least SOMETHING good to happen.

    I did not expect for Locke to be the one in the coffin. Actually, I didn’t think they were going to show us the coffin at all. It was a pleasant surprise that they didn’t keep us waiting till next season to find out who Jeremy Bentham actually was (and I keep wondering how the original Bentham’s ideas about the Panopticon fit in with the rest of Lost; I doubt they do, but it’s fun to ponder). Anyway, I thought it was either going to be Ben or Richard in the coffin. I know Richard never ages, I just thought it would be a delicious twist to see him dead. But seeing Locke completely blew me away.

    Not just the best finale ever . . . I think it’s one of the top 5 episodes ever.

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    Thealogian 5.30.2008 at 9:42 am |

    Okay, the following comment just might make it on O’Reilly to show how un-American liberals are, but when Sayid, ex-Iraqi Republican Guard, was fighting that Blackwater-esque mercenary/ex-Marine, 13 million Americans were rooting for the Iraqi–I just loved that (plus, just more proof of Sayid’s hotness). I’m sorry that as a result of that observation, everyone reading this site is hunted down and “re-educated” in Bush’s third term.

    Losing Charlie last season was a killer–and Jin this season. He was so close to the surface, but like Joss Wedon, JJ Abrams lets us know that the consequences are real for even the most beloved characters.

    I was really surprised, and then not at all, that Locke was in the coffin. Did anyone notice that Ben looked a bit younger when he approached Jack? His hair was a bit darker and it almost looked like they tried to smooth his skin a bit (air-brush) to minimize his age. I wonder what that means.

    I’m glad that Juliette and Sawyer are definitely still in play–I kind of knew that they weren’t killing off Sawyer, but I was worried about Juliette. $10 says that they hook up. They both think that Kate and Jack are dead.

    What freaked me out the most was Kate’s dream. Are Claire/Christian in ghostly co-hoots, or have they parted ways? Claire was adamant that Aaron NOT be brought back to the island–if they all have to return, what does that really mean? Is Ben just using his superior knowledge of the island to trick them back, or does he really need them all to get back? Also, Ben BAD–knocking out baddie, so his heart kept beating, would have given him the time he needed, but he used his daughter’s death to feign rage to get the baddie dead and the boat blowed-up. Ben always has a plan. He was just upset that the 815ers didn’t want to stay.

    peace

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    Daomadan 5.30.2008 at 9:54 am |

    I was sad to see Locke in the coffin simply because I hope/want to see/wish something would go right in his life. It’ll be interesting to see what happens next season.

    I hate to wait 8 months to find out?! Cruel.

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    Sally 5.30.2008 at 9:54 am |

    OH HOLY CRUD!

    I agree with PurplePurple about the island disappearing for a moment while it jumps through time and then reappearing (though we couldn’t see that). I know it’s weird, but I felt kind of sad when Ben got down there and realized what he had to do.

    I loved this episode though! It raised a crapload of questions, but did so in a way much better than I think they’ve done before. Usually I feel kind of annoyed at the finales for the lack of answers, but this time I feel excited about going through the last few seasons to see what I can piece together.

    Also, am I the only one who thinks that Sun needs an Emmy for that performance? This season has really been great for her, but last night’s episode was UNBELIEVABLE. She had me crying like a baby.

    I LOVE LOST!

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    Cara 5.30.2008 at 10:26 am |

    SECONDED. I have the biggest crush on Sayid.

    So I guess I’m not the only one whose heart skipped a beat when he was getting out of bed naked earlier on in the season? He also seems to be more or less perpetually dressed in a suit off the island . . . which is fine by me.

    Ahem.

    I am holding out hope that he’s still alive, because (unlike Michael) they didn’t make it totally clear that he’s dead. He could be in the water, right? I’m hoping so, anyway. . . .

    It was because the Island wouldn’t let him die. But then Shepard/Jacob showed up and told him that his work for the Island was done, so he’s definitely dead now.

    I’m not convinced that Michael is dead. You’re right that he completed his task and could therefore die, but when Walt visited Hurley and asked why they were lying, Hurley said “it’s the only way to protect everyone who got off of the island,” and Walt said “like my dad?” and Hurley confirmed.

    Sun also noted that the six of them were “not the only ones who got off that island.” She could be referring only to Desmond, but I think she meant more than one person (Frank was never “on” the island). Widmore obviously hates Des’ guts and would like to get rid of him, but I’m also not sure what Sun’s beef would be with him. Maybe she blames Des for coming upstairs instead of Jin? Jack seemed to think that Sun blames him. Sun said to her dad that two people were responsible for Jin’s death, and one of them was him. The immediate assumption is that the other person is Widmore. This could still be the case and she’s somehow trying to trick him . . . or the other person could be Jack.

    Anyway, I’m not convinced of Michael’s death. I think that Christian’s showing up may have somehow protected him, and I’m also not convinced that Clarie isn’t actually alive. Remember that Walt could appear to people, too, even though he’s obviously alive. It’s not like Christian’s showing up is some kind of kiss of death. Both Jack and Locke are still alive, after all (well, I mean Locke is still alive in present time on the island).

    I do agree though that Jin may not be dead. There seems to be an indication on the show that if you don’t actually see a dead body, the person isn’t actually dead (and sometimes they’re not dead when you do see a body!). Of course it would still be tragic if Jin was alive out there somewhere and he and Sun are now separated because no one would go back. But at least there’s some hope.

    As just a side note, I had been rooting for Kate and Jack from the very beginning of the show, but now I think that Kate and Sawyer are way better. Sawyer has changed so much since they crashed. I mean, when they first landed, he would have been pushing other people out of the damn helicopter. I don’t think that he was ever quite as bad as he wanted people to believe, but there’s no denying that he went from selfish asshole to flat-out good guy. The way that he was concerned about Claire and risked his own life to save her, the way he went back for Hurley, in Season 3 went back for Jin, Sayid and Bernard? Old Sawyer wouldn’t have done that shit. (Killing Locke’s dad seems to have been good for him. Heh.) By contrast, Jack seems to be alternately staying the same and getting worse.

    Just reading through Lostpedia, here’s a good question: what happened to Desmond’s flash of Claire and Aaron getting in a helicopter? Why does this seem to be the one flash that hasn’t come true?

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    Daomadan 5.30.2008 at 10:42 am |

    Mmm….Sayid. Hands off folks…he’s mine. ^_~

    Though, his track record with women might be a reason to not date him. His sig others always seem to die.

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    Hot Tramp 5.30.2008 at 10:49 am |

    I really, really wanted the camera to pan over the coffin … slowly … slowly … and reveal … OMGWTFPOLARBEAR.

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    Cara 5.30.2008 at 10:55 am |

    But Hurley looked so uncomfortable when he told Walt that… I thought he was lying when he said it. I’m 99 percent sure Michael is dead, sadly — just because Shepard/Jacob told him “he could go,” and he had been trying to die the whole time.

    Ah, good point. The island that wouldn’t let him die told him that he had done his job and could die. I hadn’t thought of it that way. You may be right.

    Mmm….Sayid. Hands off folks…he’s mine. ^_~

    Though, his track record with women might be a reason to not date him. His sig others always seem to die.

    So why the competition? Sounds like he’ll have time for each of us . . .

    Hahahaha. Oh my I’m so morbid ;)

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    Daomadan 5.30.2008 at 10:56 am |

    @ Cara Touché ^_~ You can have him first then.

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    margosita 5.30.2008 at 11:34 am |

    I think Desmond was lying about that flash (seeing Claire and Aaron getting off the island). He knew what Charlie had to do and he knew how to get him to do it, I think.

    I’m happy about Desmond and Penny, too. YES!!!!

    I thought when Sun was saying that they weren’t the only ones to get off the island she was referring to Ben. Widmore would be interested in finding Ben, for sure. Although I’m still confused about Ben going into his bedroom and NOTHING HAPPENING. They are in this never-ending battle over the island and they really just talk?

    Also, I’m scared for Penny. She and Desmond are finally together and now Ben is going to try to kill her? Ben is a man obsessed, seriously.

    I can see Jin not being dead, just flung into the water.
    And I definitely think Charlotte = Annie. She was bugging me, but I’m glad she’s not dead.

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    Ana 5.30.2008 at 11:49 am |

    Two things: I think that Sun is out to get Ben now and that he could be the one that she blames for Jin’s death (if he is in fact dead). It makes sense that she would team up with Widmore to do that, and she did mention common interests they shared. She probably found out about Widmore’s connection to the island from her father, now that she has power over him and his company. All this may set up an interesting confrontation between Sun (who teams with Widmore) and Sayid (who teams with Ben).

    And I have serious suspicions about Faraday. He creeps me out, and I think he might be a bad guy, like a secret mastermind. Like when, during a conflict with the people on the beach, he turns to Charlotte and says something like, “You say these things and you make them not trust us.” Is that not weird? Maybe I’m being paranoid.

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    Cara 5.30.2008 at 11:50 am |

    I thought when Sun was saying that they weren’t the only ones to get off the island she was referring to Ben. Widmore would be interested in finding Ben, for sure. Although I’m still confused about Ben going into his bedroom and NOTHING HAPPENING. They are in this never-ending battle over the island and they really just talk?

    Also, I’m scared for Penny. She and Desmond are finally together and now Ben is going to try to kill her? Ben is a man obsessed, seriously.

    There seems to be some sort of reason why Ben can’t kill Widmore. It also seems clear that Widmore can’t kill Ben. I’m eager to find out why.

    I’m scared about Penny, too. At first, I was really terrified that Ben would get Sayid to go after Penny, because I couldn’t remember with any certainty whether or not Sayid knew who Penny was (like whether or not Desmond told Sayid that it was his girlfriend’s father’s boat when he found out that it belonged to Widmore). But now Sayid definitely knows who Penny is, and I definitely can’t see him doing that. First of all, he’s about as loyal as they come, and secondly I can’t see him killing his buddy’s one true love, seeing as how he’s had two women he loves killed by other people.

    I’m curious about what the “rules” were that Widmore broke by one of his people killing Alex. Obviously Ben has a right to be pissed — though I still think he deserves part of the blame for what happened — but that’s clearly no reason to take it out on Penny. There’s no doubting that Ben is seriously fucked in the head. Though I did have trouble hating him for stabbing that guy in the neck. In addition to simply having good reason to kill him, there was no way to keep that guy alive and to keep the island safe at the same time. In the end, it was going to be the island or the boat, which is a really shitty decision, but I have trouble blaming Ben for favoring the island over a bunch of people working for Widmore and the Losties that he didn’t really care about. Though of course his appearing to simply not give a shit was . . . well, disturbing at the least.

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    Cara 5.30.2008 at 11:54 am |

    Ana, I think that Faraday is DEFINITELY weird, but I’m not convinced that he’s a bad guy. I think that Miles was totally genuine when he said that the killing spree shit was not what he signed up for, and I think Faraday (and maybe Charlotte) is in the same boat. He definitely has business there on the island that he’s keeping a secret, but I don’t think he’s there to harm anyone.

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    Daomadan 5.30.2008 at 12:31 pm |

    I agree with Cara on Daniel Faraday. I’d argue he isn’t a bad guy since most of his group appear neutral (Miles/Charlotte) or good guys (Frank). I think his time travel experiments and exposure to radiation (I believe that was what he was protecting himself from while at Oxford?) have taken their toll on his brain/mind.

    I want some more Charlotte and Daniel…they appear to have an intriguing affection for each other.

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    Sheelzebub 5.30.2008 at 1:18 pm |

    I liked parts of the finale, but there was no ZOMG I CAN’T BELIVE IT moments (no, not even with the last shot). I still miss Mr. Eko.

    All I could think of last night were the potential spin off shows:

    Kate, Jack, and Sawyer in a sitcom that’s a cross between Three’s Company and Big Love.

    John Locke and Ben Linus in a sitcom where they work together and are both jockeying for the manager’s slot—a cross between the Odd Couple and The Office.

    Sayyid, Charlotte, and Faraday in a version of Mission Impossible and Alias

    OR Faraday in a version of MacGyver

    Hurley (and Charlie, back to life) doing a TV version of Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure (they had a time machine, natch)

    Desmond, Penny, Claire, Aaron, Rose, and Bernard in a quirky comedy like Northern Exposure, except it would be on a tropical island (maybe Key West?)

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    JenM 5.30.2008 at 2:48 pm |

    Why did they kill Locke? When my girlfriends and I used to have LOST watching nights they’d fight over Sayeed and Sawyer but my man has always been Locke. I was all “noooo!” and my husband said “well now you know how I felt when Eko and Anna-Lucia died! They killed off my island girlfriend so its only fair you lost your island boyfriend!”

    I’m hoping he’s not dead-dead though. Hmm.

    Faraday is a nicer skinnier version of Charles Manson which is why he seems so spooky, but I agree w/the comment that his radiation experiments affected him.

    I also agree Sawyer asked Kate to check up on his daughter, and that Micheal is at last dead.

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    micheyd 5.30.2008 at 2:54 pm |

    John Locke and Ben Linus in a sitcom where they work together and are both jockeying for the manager’s slot—a cross between the Odd Couple and The Office.

    NO WAY. Me and my friend had that same idea last night! Ben + Locke = Odd Couple. Totally.

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    wall-flower 5.30.2008 at 2:58 pm |

    Sheelzebub, you’re cracking me up with those spinoff ideas. I especially like the idea of Sayid, Charlotte, and Faraday doing Alias. You could through in Miles or Sawyer as the “Sark” character who always screws things up for the good guys. And since the actor who plays Locke was actually *ON* Alias, he could reprise his role. Awesome.

    PurplePurple, I am thoroughly impressed with your explanation of how Ben moved the island. Kickass!

    I was so happy for Desmond. He’s underrated as a hottie on the show. I like the characters, like Sayid and Desmond, who have the romantic-lost-love-past (even though that got spoiled for Sayid, ugh). Also, I like how Desmond has premonitions and a crazy-man look in his eye. Does that mean something bad about me? ;-)

    I agree with those who think the other person Sun holds responsible for Jin’s “death” is Ben. It’s even possible she knows that he literally IS responsible, since Locke visited each of them and could have told Sun that Ben killed the marine-dude and his heart moniter thingy is what set off the bomb. (I hope someone who’s never seen the show is reading this. It’s the kind of show that sounds completely stupid to people who don’t watch it — i.e. my favorite type of show.)

    Finally, I just want to say that I think *every* finale of this show is the best finale ever. Remember when the Others stole Walt at the end of Season 1? Holy crap! Season 2 has already been mentioned, but I seriously think the Season 3 finale might be the most brilliant thing ever on TV. They changed the very rules the show plays by! Changing from flashbacks from flashforwards, changing from wanting to get off the island to desperately, violently yearning to get back? Utter brilliance.

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    Daomadan 5.30.2008 at 4:18 pm |

    Love the sitcom idea with Ben and Locke. Those two have great rapport and Emerson and O’Quinn have incredible acting chops. I’ve been a huge fan of O’Quinn ever since he played Howard Hughes in “The Rocketeer” not to mention his stints on X-Files and Millenium.

    Can we put Jack and Kate on Survivor and vote them off the island? I hate their relationship and don’t find the love triangle compelling at all. What I do find absolutely compelling is Penny and Desmond, Sun and Jin, and yes…Charlotte and Daniel. As much as I like Fox and Lilly…they don’t have any tangible chemistry.

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    Natalia 5.31.2008 at 4:42 am |

    Poor Locke. He was right. Jack was wrong.

    Jack’s wrong a lot actually.

    Poor, poor Locke. I mean, don’t get me wrong, the man had gone nuts and everything, but I always had faith in Locke.

    I was really worried that Sawyer would be dead, because that would have sucked even more.

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    Cara 5.31.2008 at 12:26 pm |

    Jack is ALWAYS wrong. I always say that if I was there, Jack would have been voted off the island a long time ago and Sayid would have been put in charge. Sayid’s had a few significant mistakes, but I’d say that he’s the most capable, reliable and most-frequently right person (who was) there. But I also think that Sayid doesn’t want the job. Because if he did, I doubt there’d be a lot of resistance to him taking it.

    They make us think that Sawyer might die all the time. If they ever actually did kill him, I’d be utterly shocked (not to mention really fucking pissed off, and I think the producers know there’d be a damn viewer mutiny).

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    Discontented_Clownfish 5.31.2008 at 2:35 pm |

    I was SO glad to see Desmond and Penny reunite! I was so happy, I actually started crying! It was so sad when Sun was screaming for Jin when the ship blew. Yunjin Kim is incredible.

    I agree that Michael is dead, especially because Harold Perrineau has given interviews saying how upset he is that Michael was brought back to be killed off again. He also expressed his belief that Lost has a problem with black actors/characters. Considering his grr, I’m pretty sure he’s telling the truth that Michael is dead.

    The show seems to be hinting that Charlotte is Annie…but doesn’t Charlotte look a lot younger than Ben? Maybe that’s more of the time craziness surrounding the island. Also, Annie didn’t have an accent, right? I guess she could have picked that up later, though.

    In closing: DES AND PENNY!!! :)

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    Cara 5.31.2008 at 3:52 pm |

    Hmm, I hadn’t heard about those remarks from Harold Perrineau. I’m going to have to look them up. My immediate impressions are that I agree — Rose is a very minor character, Michael has been on and off the show and unfortunately been mostly uninteresting (In Season 2, he seemed to have exactly one line: “they took my son!”), Eko was never a very major character, and was killed off. I do think that Walt was more or less forced off the show (and therefore so was Michael, if they wanted to keep Walt alive) because the producers made a silly call by casting an actor who was going to grow up much too fast for the part (though I thought that as child actors go, he was quite good).

    I’ve thought the same thing about the female characters, though. Most of them are either uninteresting, die quickly, or both. Shannon, Ana Lucia, and Libby were all killed. Charlotte has been thus far uninteresting, Claire doesn’t do a whole lot, and as I said Rose is a very minor character. . . which leaves us with Kate, Juliet, Sun and maybe Penny. I have personally found that shit aggravating and wish they would stop pulling it on such an otherwise excellent show.

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    Cara 5.31.2008 at 3:57 pm |

    Oh geez, they also just killed Alex and Danielle. And Locke murdered that Naomi woman. I knew I was forgetting a couple of women. By the way, I’m really upset about both Alex and Danielle.

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    Cara 5.31.2008 at 4:15 pm |

    Interesting. The story that I always heard about Jack is that he was going to be killed off in the first episode (and he was going to be played by a different actor). He was going to get eaten (or whatever) by the monster out of the cockpit of the airplane instead of the pilot, and the writers thought that it was really great, because it would let viewers know to “expect the unexpected.” But it turned out with test audiences that killing off the perceived leader in the first episode was a little bit too unexpected and really pissed them off, so the writers changed it and wrote him as a full character. I never heard who was intended to take over a “leader” role with him gone, though. This is the story that the producers told (maybe in the DVD extras?), so it’s possible that the real story a combination of the two.

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    Thom 6.2.2008 at 1:54 pm |

    Yeah…Jack was originally to be played by Michael Keaton and die in the two hour pilot. Then Kate would have taken over.

    Eko was killed off at the request of the actor, who wanted off the show due to personal issues, and I believe there was “trouble” with the actress (not just the DUI charge) that led to her being written off. The death of Libby bugged me because I felt like they were really going somewhere interesting with the Libby/Hurley story and they killed her and pretty much dropped it. Rose disappears a lot because the actress does a lot of stage work. Considering how much I adore the character, this frustrates me. I want more episodes with Rose (and Bernard) doin’ stuff. Harold’s main gripe was not merely “trouble with black people” as much as he feels that

    A. Michael’s death was to satisfy blood lust of fans who are still angry about Michael killing Libby and Ana Lucia.

    B.The producers don’t find black relationships interesting.

    I think it is a combination of issues that has led to the rather embarrassing track record of killing off female and black characters on the show…but in some cases, I think certain characters would have lasted longer if not for events external to the show.

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