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	<title>Comments on: I guess there was a point to that stupid LGBT acronym after all</title>
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		<title>By: nix</title>
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		<dc:creator>nix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 09:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I kind of think we might be better off supporting Gender Pac than say HRC (Human Rights Campaign)&lt;/em&gt;

i *definitely* do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I kind of think we might be better off supporting Gender Pac than say HRC (Human Rights Campaign)</em></p>
<p>i *definitely* do.</p>
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		<title>By: Nia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 08:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I missed your posts Holly! Glad you are back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I missed your posts Holly! Glad you are back.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 02:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh crud.  I just saw the May 28th post.

Self-smackdown administered.  Sorry about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh crud.  I just saw the May 28th post.</p>
<p>Self-smackdown administered.  Sorry about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 01:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I ask something without derailing the thread too much?  (Feel free to delete if off-topic.)

Christian Siriano&#039;s &quot;hot tranny mess&quot; didn&#039;t strike me as too offensive because in that context I took &quot;tranny&quot; to be short for &quot;transvestite&quot; rather than &quot;transgendered&quot;, making the whole catchphrase translate

&quot;hot tranny mess&quot; = &quot;poorly performed drag&quot;

where the critique is not on the impulse/desire/need to transition, or even to drag, but on the effectiveness of the performance.  Now, if you use that to insult a real transgendered person, that&#039;s really insulting and offensive (like calling Ann Coulter a man), but if you&#039;re using it to insult a dress worn by a gorgeous cisgendered teenager, where the whole point of the show is competition on visual performance, I can&#039;t see how it&#039;s offensive.

Of course, the &quot;family values&quot; crowd could not possibly navigate this, and it is offensive as used above.  Genuine transition is not mere drag, and it&#039;s not fair to subject it to that kind of flippant insult.  (I&#039;m not that much of a Butlerian.)

If the above reads like a cisgendered girl&#039;s attempt to be appropriate lingo that I&#039;m not really welcome to use, please, smack me down on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I ask something without derailing the thread too much?  (Feel free to delete if off-topic.)</p>
<p>Christian Siriano&#8217;s &#8220;hot tranny mess&#8221; didn&#8217;t strike me as too offensive because in that context I took &#8220;tranny&#8221; to be short for &#8220;transvestite&#8221; rather than &#8220;transgendered&#8221;, making the whole catchphrase translate</p>
<p>&#8220;hot tranny mess&#8221; = &#8220;poorly performed drag&#8221;</p>
<p>where the critique is not on the impulse/desire/need to transition, or even to drag, but on the effectiveness of the performance.  Now, if you use that to insult a real transgendered person, that&#8217;s really insulting and offensive (like calling Ann Coulter a man), but if you&#8217;re using it to insult a dress worn by a gorgeous cisgendered teenager, where the whole point of the show is competition on visual performance, I can&#8217;t see how it&#8217;s offensive.</p>
<p>Of course, the &#8220;family values&#8221; crowd could not possibly navigate this, and it is offensive as used above.  Genuine transition is not mere drag, and it&#8217;s not fair to subject it to that kind of flippant insult.  (I&#8217;m not that much of a Butlerian.)</p>
<p>If the above reads like a cisgendered girl&#8217;s attempt to be appropriate lingo that I&#8217;m not really welcome to use, please, smack me down on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GallingGalla says:  Dear Philadelphia Gay News: Just quit doing this, ok? Because throwing “GLBT” / “LGBT” around 20 times in an article just makes you look silly and pathetic.

I&#039;m glad people are starting to notice this one.

First of all there are a bunch of different folks under that &quot;Transgender Umbrella&quot;  Half of them are heterosexual and their transprefixed word is transvestite.  Others are hetterosexual post-SRS folks.

I sometimes thing gender freedom has more to do with feminism and the liberation of gender from patriarchal imposed roles than it does with L or G.

Some of it is just freedom to be different.  I kind of think we might be better off supporting Gender Pac than say HRC  (Human Rights Campaign)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GallingGalla says:  Dear Philadelphia Gay News: Just quit doing this, ok? Because throwing “GLBT” / “LGBT” around 20 times in an article just makes you look silly and pathetic.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad people are starting to notice this one.</p>
<p>First of all there are a bunch of different folks under that &#8220;Transgender Umbrella&#8221;  Half of them are heterosexual and their transprefixed word is transvestite.  Others are hetterosexual post-SRS folks.</p>
<p>I sometimes thing gender freedom has more to do with feminism and the liberation of gender from patriarchal imposed roles than it does with L or G.</p>
<p>Some of it is just freedom to be different.  I kind of think we might be better off supporting Gender Pac than say HRC  (Human Rights Campaign)</p>
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		<title>By: Kelli Busey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelli Busey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 01:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking strictly for myself,
If you are in our community you can call me whatever you want. I watched a show when Christian said &quot;hot trannie mess&quot;. I didnt think much of it but thought he was kinda hot! Anyways, love ya all
(((hugs))) Kelli !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking strictly for myself,<br />
If you are in our community you can call me whatever you want. I watched a show when Christian said &#8220;hot trannie mess&#8221;. I didnt think much of it but thought he was kinda hot! Anyways, love ya all<br />
(((hugs))) Kelli !</p>
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		<title>By: nexyjo</title>
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		<dc:creator>nexyjo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 16:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;at what point did transgender become this evil thing? &lt;/blockquote&gt;
when we started invading women&#039;s public restrooms and locker rooms as a result of activist judges who allow us perpetrators of rape and pedophilia to accost the poor defenseless females.

funny thing, not one example has actually happened, but that doesn&#039;t stop the fear mongering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>at what point did transgender become this evil thing? </p></blockquote>
<p>when we started invading women&#8217;s public restrooms and locker rooms as a result of activist judges who allow us perpetrators of rape and pedophilia to accost the poor defenseless females.</p>
<p>funny thing, not one example has actually happened, but that doesn&#8217;t stop the fear mongering.</p>
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		<title>By: GallingGalla</title>
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		<dc:creator>GallingGalla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 16:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The title of this post rocks.  Best title of the month.

&lt;i&gt; As trans activists and bisexual advocates have been pointing out for years, plastering “LGBT” all over documents or names of things doesn’t guarantee at all that anyone is actually being inclusive of trans and bi people and issues.&lt;/i&gt;

Dear Philadelphia Gay News: Just quit doing this, ok?  Because throwing &quot;GLBT&quot; / &quot;LGBT&quot; around 20 times in an article just makes you look silly and pathetic.  Your commitment to the trans community is poor at best, and bisexual people hardly exist in your little world.  You are a weekly paper oriented to white midde-class gay men, with barely enough coverage of women&#039;s issues to justify the &quot;L&quot; in &quot;GL&quot;.

As an aside, I&#039;m getting annoyed with you, Queerunity, over your comments that are basically shilling your blog.  Do you ever have anything substantial to say?  Because I&#039;ve never seen anything substantial.  (Holly, great correction there!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The title of this post rocks.  Best title of the month.</p>
<p><i> As trans activists and bisexual advocates have been pointing out for years, plastering “LGBT” all over documents or names of things doesn’t guarantee at all that anyone is actually being inclusive of trans and bi people and issues.</i></p>
<p>Dear Philadelphia Gay News: Just quit doing this, ok?  Because throwing &#8220;GLBT&#8221; / &#8220;LGBT&#8221; around 20 times in an article just makes you look silly and pathetic.  Your commitment to the trans community is poor at best, and bisexual people hardly exist in your little world.  You are a weekly paper oriented to white midde-class gay men, with barely enough coverage of women&#8217;s issues to justify the &#8220;L&#8221; in &#8220;GL&#8221;.</p>
<p>As an aside, I&#8217;m getting annoyed with you, Queerunity, over your comments that are basically shilling your blog.  Do you ever have anything substantial to say?  Because I&#8217;ve never seen anything substantial.  (Holly, great correction there!)</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 16:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Log Cabin Republicans Endorse LGBT-Friendly&lt;strong&gt; Conservatives&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;


I had to laugh when I saw this.  

That must be one hell of a short endorsement list.  How many &quot;LGBT&quot; friendly conservative republicans are there in congress, or for that matter, in state legislatures?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Log Cabin Republicans Endorse LGBT-Friendly<strong> Conservatives</strong></em></p>
<p>I had to laugh when I saw this.  </p>
<p>That must be one hell of a short endorsement list.  How many &#8220;LGBT&#8221; friendly conservative republicans are there in congress, or for that matter, in state legislatures?</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 14:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It is hard to please everyone in the LGBT community at all times, especially when we pretend it&#039;s one huge community, but I think most organizations are making a concerted effort at lip service.
http://www.queersunited.blogspot.com&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Fixed that for ya!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It is hard to please everyone in the LGBT community at all times, especially when we pretend it&#8217;s one huge community, but I think most organizations are making a concerted effort at lip service.<br />
<a href="http://www.queersunited.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.queersunited.blogspot.com</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Fixed that for ya!</p>
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