Comments on: Good work, Clinton

By: Charity

Charity — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:34:20 +0000

That seems about as true as “99 Problems” signifying Obama’s position on women’s issues.

No one said it did…rather, it likely signified his position on Hillary Clinton. I mean, did you miss how many times and from how many angles she was called a “bitch” during this primary? And how this was tolerated (or worse) by the other candidates? Do you think that *might* have factored into some staffer’s cutesy decision to use that song at an event? What planet have you been living on these past several months?

Also, the Clinton song error…that’s not a very good analogy. That was a case of someone cueing up track two instead of track one of the same CD. Praytell, what Jay-Z track was supposed to be cued up? The fact of “a bitch ain’t one” as the perfect anti-Hillary dogwhistle is enough to suggest it was precisely the track they were going for.

Give the woman her extremely well-deserved props, Obamafans…or do you have to own every space on the web?

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By: Olivia

Olivia — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:42:52 +0000

This was a wonderful speech, so inpiring and uplifting. I thought she was both humble in how she encouraged her supporters (and everyone) to vote for Obama, but she also managed to speak about her incredible accomplishment as the first woman to come this far in a presidential primary race. The “18 million cracks” in the glass ceiling brought me to tears.

By: ellenbrenna

ellenbrenna — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:41:23 +0000

Ahh 99 Problems…

Even if the song was played (which I doubt simply because it would be extremely stupid to do so) it could have very well been an accident, it happened to Hillary once already. Clinton was given shit because while she was supposed to enter a room to Billy Joel’s “New York State of Mind” somebody played “Captain Jack” by accident. The latter being about a drug dealer.

Guiliani tried to say it signified a permissive attitude toward the War on Drugs. That seems about as true as “99 Problems” signifying Obama’s position on women’s issues.

By: octogalore

octogalore — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:16:47 +0000

Nice wrapup. I agree.

The 18 cracks got me too.

By: Charity

Charity — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:24:30 +0000

thirstforknowledge, thanks for the link, although i’m not sure i would say that qualifies as a “debunk.” The link wiggles provided has some sources, and while I know the NY Post is not the most reliable, both the Huffington Post (VERY pro-Obama) and AlterNet posted the story, with no subsequent retractions or corrections or anything. And I’d think they’d take the time to do so. Just because someone on Kos provided a video clip that didn’t include that song…come on. Daily Kos is trash and has been throughout this primary.

By: Terra

Terra — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:05:04 +0000

Hillary is the tougher of the two, the candidate you want on your side in a knife fight, a gender reversal that prompts Carville to indulge in some ribald humor: “If she gave him one of her cojones, they’d both have two.”

This by an insider Clinton supporter pretty much sums up why she lost.

By: Morningstar

Morningstar — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 06:02:11 +0000

it’s a good speech, and it’s unfortunate that she couldn’t have done something positive like this during the campaign. if she had targetted mccain, and showed why she was better to fight against mccain, she probably would’ve had my vote. but she didn’t. instead she made comments that implied mccain would be a better choice than obama and her husband played the race card and this became one of the dirtiest elections since kerry was swift boated.

really, though, i never minded her i liked bill and was annoyed by the way hillary was always picked on. she completely changed my perception of her with the way she campaigned against bama. it was a scorched earth policy and it’s unclear how much damage she actually did to the party at large.

i’m glad she’s finally throwing her support, but everything about her is suspect now.

By: thirstforknopwledge

thirstforknopwledge — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 05:33:49 +0000

Yeah, i think “never ever detected” is just willful ignorance, at this point. The 99 problems incident, “sweetie,” “cutie,” “claws come out,” “likable enough,” his comments about abortion, comments contrasting his experience to having “tea” with world leaders…yeah. And I’m not an Obama-hater by any means, but please don’t insult my intelligence with “never ever detected.” One nitpick, the 99 problems rumour was debunked here

By: acbg

acbg — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 05:28:24 +0000

Explain to me how the “likable enough” comment is sexist.