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		<title>By: annalouise</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/06/15/angry-white-women/#comment-184441</link>
		<dc:creator>annalouise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What even Frank Rich didn&#039;t touch on (in this article, I think he&#039;s brought it up in th past) is how the defeat of Hillary Clinton is also a defeat of the DLC ( and it&#039;s demographic subset &quot;the reagan democrats&quot;) and its early 90s reinvention of the democratic party as an openly racist, pro-corporate, free trade party that worked to advance some of the most brutal attacks on poor people since, well, I don&#039;t know when.  Whatever I think of Barack Obama, his fundraising strategy broke the back of the DLC money making aparatus in a way that is truly beautiful to behold.  My hope is that he can win the presidency and therefore break the K-Street project with the same efficiency. Those things are going to have much longer term political implications than whatever policies he personally advances during his presidency.   

Although it&#039;s been overshadowed by issues of identity I do believe that the (let&#039;s cross our fingers) death of the DLC is behind a lot of the hostility that democrat voting white suburban men and women feel towards Barack Obama. Their democratic party is a party of NAFTA and the hedge fund industry that conceives of feminist issues soley in terms of the legality of abortion. 

Well, that and, underneath all the nattering about experience or love of HRC they are just racist and are horrified by the thought of a black man having such political power. I spent my whole life as a white girl raised by a while family; I know how we are taught to think about black men and how feminist language is used to coat the constant message of &quot;black men just want to rape you&quot;.

But that said, I think that is just an unconcious, emotional reinforcement of a concious policy disagreement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What even Frank Rich didn&#8217;t touch on (in this article, I think he&#8217;s brought it up in th past) is how the defeat of Hillary Clinton is also a defeat of the DLC ( and it&#8217;s demographic subset &#8220;the reagan democrats&#8221;) and its early 90s reinvention of the democratic party as an openly racist, pro-corporate, free trade party that worked to advance some of the most brutal attacks on poor people since, well, I don&#8217;t know when.  Whatever I think of Barack Obama, his fundraising strategy broke the back of the DLC money making aparatus in a way that is truly beautiful to behold.  My hope is that he can win the presidency and therefore break the K-Street project with the same efficiency. Those things are going to have much longer term political implications than whatever policies he personally advances during his presidency.   </p>
<p>Although it&#8217;s been overshadowed by issues of identity I do believe that the (let&#8217;s cross our fingers) death of the DLC is behind a lot of the hostility that democrat voting white suburban men and women feel towards Barack Obama. Their democratic party is a party of NAFTA and the hedge fund industry that conceives of feminist issues soley in terms of the legality of abortion. </p>
<p>Well, that and, underneath all the nattering about experience or love of HRC they are just racist and are horrified by the thought of a black man having such political power. I spent my whole life as a white girl raised by a while family; I know how we are taught to think about black men and how feminist language is used to coat the constant message of &#8220;black men just want to rape you&#8221;.</p>
<p>But that said, I think that is just an unconcious, emotional reinforcement of a concious policy disagreement.</p>
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		<title>By: Connie Amidei</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/06/15/angry-white-women/#comment-184430</link>
		<dc:creator>Connie Amidei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it appears that the dem status quo is letting Hillary know that she must behave to receive the prize of VP. and/or debt forgiveness. (to be able to fully engage in doing what she needs to do:  get obama elected) 

It&#039;s an interesting process, very close to how we see men operating in their personal relationships.  The viciousness of the fight, the make up period, hillary has been courted by obama behind the scenes, visits, calls, &quot;softening her up&quot;, kissing her ass, he still needs something she has.  Time heals, pissed off and hurt begins to subside, we move on, as warriors do. 

But here we are, with the media playing their comfortable piggish role, beginning to spot light the fact that Hillary&#039;s behavior is being monitored, she is still on the not so short list and being considered as a running mate.  The message has been crafted well and the message is, If you will behave well, the way we specify you should, then you may still win the prize.

I think letting her nomination languish for so long is costing obmama in ways he can&#039;t even imagine with pissed off women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it appears that the dem status quo is letting Hillary know that she must behave to receive the prize of VP. and/or debt forgiveness. (to be able to fully engage in doing what she needs to do:  get obama elected) </p>
<p>It&#8217;s an interesting process, very close to how we see men operating in their personal relationships.  The viciousness of the fight, the make up period, hillary has been courted by obama behind the scenes, visits, calls, &#8220;softening her up&#8221;, kissing her ass, he still needs something she has.  Time heals, pissed off and hurt begins to subside, we move on, as warriors do. </p>
<p>But here we are, with the media playing their comfortable piggish role, beginning to spot light the fact that Hillary&#8217;s behavior is being monitored, she is still on the not so short list and being considered as a running mate.  The message has been crafted well and the message is, If you will behave well, the way we specify you should, then you may still win the prize.</p>
<p>I think letting her nomination languish for so long is costing obmama in ways he can&#8217;t even imagine with pissed off women.</p>
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		<title>By: Lottie</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/06/15/angry-white-women/#comment-182384</link>
		<dc:creator>Lottie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;[...] and unless someone here offers at least a welcoming tone I will go and find another group of women to exchange views with.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Although I&#039;m new here myself, I would like to offer the welcoming tone that seems to have been missing. I understand exactly how you&#039;re feeling; I&#039;ve had similar encounters here myself. But there really are some decent and reasonable people here, and I hope you will stick around. 

I&#039;ll look forward to hearing from you again soon. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>[...] and unless someone here offers at least a welcoming tone I will go and find another group of women to exchange views with.</p></blockquote>
<p>Although I&#8217;m new here myself, I would like to offer the welcoming tone that seems to have been missing. I understand exactly how you&#8217;re feeling; I&#8217;ve had similar encounters here myself. But there really are some decent and reasonable people here, and I hope you will stick around. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll look forward to hearing from you again soon. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Dianne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charity, I see you use the word &#039;threatened&#039;  Are you simply playing into peoples fears or do you seriously consider my comments to be threatening?  I certainly did not join this forum to be abused (calling me a right-wing plant is abusive) accused of threatening behavior, and denigrated for asking a question, or offering a challenging position.  You are making assumptions about me without knowing me based on a few posts, and as a newcomer to this website I have been made to feel totally unwelcome. You have extended no charity in your comments, and unless someone here offers at least a welcoming tone I will go and find another group of women to exchange views with. 
I am not even living in the US and if this is how you welcome women from around the world it is very disappointing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charity, I see you use the word &#8216;threatened&#8217;  Are you simply playing into peoples fears or do you seriously consider my comments to be threatening?  I certainly did not join this forum to be abused (calling me a right-wing plant is abusive) accused of threatening behavior, and denigrated for asking a question, or offering a challenging position.  You are making assumptions about me without knowing me based on a few posts, and as a newcomer to this website I have been made to feel totally unwelcome. You have extended no charity in your comments, and unless someone here offers at least a welcoming tone I will go and find another group of women to exchange views with.<br />
I am not even living in the US and if this is how you welcome women from around the world it is very disappointing.</p>
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		<title>By: Charity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 02:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lottie, I don&#039;t know prairielily personally, but I&#039;ve seen her comment on various blogs for about two years now, and she is not a senseless *ranter* whose mission is to *rip the heads off of innocent bystanders*.   These are tense subjects to be certain, but prairielily =/ inflammatory ranting.   Read her comment again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lottie, I don&#8217;t know prairielily personally, but I&#8217;ve seen her comment on various blogs for about two years now, and she is not a senseless *ranter* whose mission is to *rip the heads off of innocent bystanders*.   These are tense subjects to be certain, but prairielily =/ inflammatory ranting.   Read her comment again.</p>
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		<title>By: Lala</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those McCain women wouldn&#039;t have voted for Obama if he was running against George Wallace. Forget about em</description>
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		<title>By: Lottie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lottie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Yes… wiggles is a horrible person for being “arrogantly condescending” to people who are condescending towards her. Who the hell does she think she is anyway?&lt;/blockquote&gt;Hmmm... Wonder what the excuse is for behaving that way toward someone on a very first encounter then?

As to the rest of your rant, I can only assume it&#039;s directed at me as well, seeing as you didn&#039;t name or quote anyone else. It might interest you to know that I&#039;ve never participated in any of the flame wars on the subject, nor have I made any so-called threats. I view the whole thing more with curiosity than anything else, and have never expressed any other feelings on the subject. And I&#039;ve never once said who I&#039;m voting for.  

But hey... it&#039;s good to know wiggles isn&#039;t alone in her mission to rip the heads off of innocent bystanders. Good job validating that point for me.

I do hope you get your wish on election day. Otherwise, I fear the world may not be safe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yes… wiggles is a horrible person for being “arrogantly condescending” to people who are condescending towards her. Who the hell does she think she is anyway?</p></blockquote>
<p>Hmmm&#8230; Wonder what the excuse is for behaving that way toward someone on a very first encounter then?</p>
<p>As to the rest of your rant, I can only assume it&#8217;s directed at me as well, seeing as you didn&#8217;t name or quote anyone else. It might interest you to know that I&#8217;ve never participated in any of the flame wars on the subject, nor have I made any so-called threats. I view the whole thing more with curiosity than anything else, and have never expressed any other feelings on the subject. And I&#8217;ve never once said who I&#8217;m voting for.  </p>
<p>But hey&#8230; it&#8217;s good to know wiggles isn&#8217;t alone in her mission to rip the heads off of innocent bystanders. Good job validating that point for me.</p>
<p>I do hope you get your wish on election day. Otherwise, I fear the world may not be safe.</p>
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		<title>By: Charity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or, what wiggles said.</description>
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		<title>By: Charity</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/06/15/angry-white-women/#comment-181685</link>
		<dc:creator>Charity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And in turn, I think telling women they need a good &quot;shoulder-shake&quot; and whatever else you have threatened for them in other threads, and feeding into sensationalist and exaggerated / hyperbolic accounts of women voters / Hillary supporters acting in racist, homophobic, and otherwise repugnant ways, is offensive.    I guess we&#039;ll have to agree to disagree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And in turn, I think telling women they need a good &#8220;shoulder-shake&#8221; and whatever else you have threatened for them in other threads, and feeding into sensationalist and exaggerated / hyperbolic accounts of women voters / Hillary supporters acting in racist, homophobic, and otherwise repugnant ways, is offensive.    I guess we&#8217;ll have to agree to disagree.</p>
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		<title>By: Dianne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee Charity, which particular comment were you referring to? The recent one where I slammed McCain for his “misogynist’ frat-boy antics” and his disgusting behavior when he dumped his first wife after an accident left her disfigured? Are these the type of comments that suggest I am a right-wing plant? I am utterly offended that I am unable to post challenging comments here without being accused of right-wing leanings.  If you knew my history and my participation in progressive organizations, especially for the advancement of womens health etc I believe you would be embarrassed that you have leveled that accusation in my direction. I have dedicated years of work in Africa and in third world countries protecting the health of women specifically reproductive health and reproductive rights. I would jump in front of a truck before I would ever support a right-wing agenda. I can only hope you have misinterpreted my comments, otherwise I am deeply offended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee Charity, which particular comment were you referring to? The recent one where I slammed McCain for his “misogynist’ frat-boy antics” and his disgusting behavior when he dumped his first wife after an accident left her disfigured? Are these the type of comments that suggest I am a right-wing plant? I am utterly offended that I am unable to post challenging comments here without being accused of right-wing leanings.  If you knew my history and my participation in progressive organizations, especially for the advancement of womens health etc I believe you would be embarrassed that you have leveled that accusation in my direction. I have dedicated years of work in Africa and in third world countries protecting the health of women specifically reproductive health and reproductive rights. I would jump in front of a truck before I would ever support a right-wing agenda. I can only hope you have misinterpreted my comments, otherwise I am deeply offended.</p>
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