Comments on: I don’t understand. http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/19/i-dont-understand/ In defense of the sanctimonious women's studies set. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:13:48 +0000 hourly 1 By: kimberlee http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/19/i-dont-understand/#comment-191915 kimberlee Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:31:16 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=7775#comment-191915 Well, I just got back from the jail and they've cancelled all visitation till further notice. I guess I'll try this evening and then, next Thurs. (only 1 day a week for visitors; I'm not experienced with jails) In the meantime, I'm going to write her a letter of support & urge her not to plead guilty, as I've seen too many persons' lives destroyed by court-appointeds. As women, we mustn't let this go; it could come back on all of us and your children. The address down there and her name: Ms. Jennifer Darlene Johnson c/o Lauderdale County Detention Center 653 South Seminary St. - Florence, AL 35630 Since I don't know anything yet, perhaps simply letters of support would be as well. I'm going to go on-line and write a letter to NARAL and see if there is anything legally we can do. I'll keep you apprised; I've never gotten involved with anything like this before so I'm really flying by the seat of my pants in the face of opposition. Any helpful words out there . . .? I'd appreciate it. Well, I just got back from the jail and they’ve cancelled all visitation till further notice. I guess I’ll try this evening and then, next Thurs. (only 1 day a week for visitors; I’m not experienced with jails) In the meantime, I’m going to write her a letter of support & urge her not to plead guilty, as I’ve seen too many persons’ lives destroyed by court-appointeds. As women, we mustn’t let this go; it could come back on all of us and your children. The address down there and her name: Ms. Jennifer Darlene Johnson c/o Lauderdale County Detention Center 653 South Seminary St. – Florence, AL 35630 Since I don’t know anything yet, perhaps simply letters of support would be as well. I’m going to go on-line and write a letter to NARAL and see if there is anything legally we can do. I’ll keep you apprised; I’ve never gotten involved with anything like this before so I’m really flying by the seat of my pants in the face of opposition. Any helpful words out there . . .? I’d appreciate it.

]]> By: kimberlee http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/19/i-dont-understand/#comment-191686 kimberlee Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:50:50 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=7775#comment-191686 well, i just found out she's still there and i'm going down there tomorrow morn and see if i'm lucky enuf to be the one visitor she's allowed a day. found out she does have a lawyer at this point, don't know if he's state referred or wht, will fill in when and if i find out anything. one thing's for sure, the hospital that said she did this has one of the worst reputations in the country. i'll drive to nashville or birmingham(2 1/2 hrs drive) before i go there. in addition to everything else, they have one of the worst rates of post-hospitalization infection in the country. what does that tell you? well, i just found out she’s still there and i’m going down there tomorrow morn and see if i’m lucky enuf to be the one visitor she’s allowed a day. found out she does have a lawyer at this point, don’t know if he’s state referred or wht, will fill in when and if i find out anything. one thing’s for sure, the hospital that said she did this has one of the worst reputations in the country. i’ll drive to nashville or birmingham(2 1/2 hrs drive) before i go there. in addition to everything else, they have one of the worst rates of post-hospitalization infection in the country. what does that tell you?

]]> By: kimberlee http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/19/i-dont-understand/#comment-191670 kimberlee Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:03:52 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=7775#comment-191670 i have been thinking about this woman for almost a week now; she just stays with me. yesterday, i read about how 10,000 bosnian women were tortured and systematically raped EVERY day for a year (also by female soldiers with bottles, how could they???!!)). any doubt why women should run the world? the jail is about a mile from my home as the crow flies. I wonder if they'd let me see her if i went down there? my guess is she is very alone right now. i'm a nyc transplant (my husband's job) and all this seems like a fundamentalist nightmare to me. i mean, can this really happen in my country? my god, it's scary. sorry to that one who said this is her hometown, i hate it here. everyone assumes because i am white, they can say "nigger" around me with impunity. there have been a few awkward moments when i pull out the pics of my godkids. (i hope i don't have to expain that one). i've been looking for any statements explaining what she went through and i doubt the press is even asking. when she comes up for trial, i really want to be there. but i'm not sure i want to support this woman until i know what happened from her. i've met a number of people down here so shallow that, if the circumstances were correct, the cord being present and all, and that person was ticked off even a little bit, would do something like that just to hurt someone else. (not my most elegant sentence, but i'm rushing here) if it turns out she is being persecuted here, i'd be willing to put up a slumber party if folks wanted to support her during the trial. everyone i've met is so judgemental. i have been thinking about this woman for almost a week now; she just stays with me. yesterday, i read about how 10,000 bosnian women were tortured and systematically raped EVERY day for a year (also by female soldiers with bottles, how could they???!!)). any doubt why women should run the world? the jail is about a mile from my home as the crow flies. I wonder if they’d let me see her if i went down there? my guess is she is very alone right now. i’m a nyc transplant (my husband’s job) and all this seems like a fundamentalist nightmare to me. i mean, can this really happen in my country? my god, it’s scary. sorry to that one who said this is her hometown, i hate it here. everyone assumes because i am white, they can say “nigger” around me with impunity. there have been a few awkward moments when i pull out the pics of my godkids. (i hope i don’t have to expain that one). i’ve been looking for any statements explaining what she went through and i doubt the press is even asking. when she comes up for trial, i really want to be there. but i’m not sure i want to support this woman until i know what happened from her. i’ve met a number of people down here so shallow that, if the circumstances were correct, the cord being present and all,
and that person was ticked off even a little bit, would do something like that just to hurt someone else. (not my most elegant sentence, but i’m rushing here) if it turns out she is being persecuted here, i’d be willing to put up a slumber party if folks wanted to support her during the trial. everyone i’ve met is so judgemental.

]]> By: Raging Red http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/19/i-dont-understand/#comment-190971 Raging Red Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:05:34 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=7775#comment-190971 Okay, the article says she was taken into custody on outstanding traffic tickets, meaning that they apparently didn't have probable cause to arrest her for the supposed manslaughter charge. Otherwise, why would they need to arrest her on a warrant for unpaid tickets? She was then charged with manslaughter the following day. So, what transpired during that time? Is this when the police got the "several pieces of evidence" they claim to have? I find that strange. Why would they think it was necessary to take her into custody ASAP? Okay, the article says she was taken into custody on outstanding traffic tickets, meaning that they apparently didn’t have probable cause to arrest her for the supposed manslaughter charge. Otherwise, why would they need to arrest her on a warrant for unpaid tickets? She was then charged with manslaughter the following day. So, what transpired during that time? Is this when the police got the “several pieces of evidence” they claim to have? I find that strange. Why would they think it was necessary to take her into custody ASAP?

]]> By: Sarah http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/19/i-dont-understand/#comment-190889 Sarah Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:52:29 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=7775#comment-190889 I'm still not understanding why she's being charged with manslaughter, if the fetus was dead before it was delivered. I realise there may be penalties for procuring an illegal abortion, but surely that isn't the same as manslaughter? I’m still not understanding why she’s being charged with manslaughter, if the fetus was dead before it was delivered. I realise there may be penalties for procuring an illegal abortion, but surely that isn’t the same as manslaughter?

]]> By: NancyP http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/19/i-dont-understand/#comment-190813 NancyP Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:46:32 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=7775#comment-190813 Complete BS as written. The cop doesn't know enough to understand medicalese. There is no opinion by an obstetrician. It is entirely possible that there ISN'T an ob serving the hospital out there in BassAckward, AL. Or even a competent nurse/midwife. A medical examiner's report on the fetus and placenta / cord / membranes would clear up a lot. Complete BS as written. The cop doesn’t know enough to understand medicalese. There is no opinion by an obstetrician. It is entirely possible that there ISN’T an ob serving the hospital out there in BassAckward, AL. Or even a competent nurse/midwife.

A medical examiner’s report on the fetus and placenta / cord / membranes would clear up a lot.

]]> By: T. http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/19/i-dont-understand/#comment-190807 T. Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:30:07 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=7775#comment-190807 Jessica, I wonder if any of thefolks who wrote the law wants to pay for the education of these "viable" 19 week fetuses? Lottie, I feel you. I was in so much pain giving birth to my daughter, I actually threatened the doctor who was trying to check me b/c I thought he was going to break my water bag. It was such horrible pain, I said I'd kick him if he put anyting else inside me. I can't immagine in my wildest dreams being able to reach inside myself and fish around for a cord with an instrument and cut it. This story is bullshit. Jessica,
I wonder if any of thefolks who wrote the law wants to pay for the education of these “viable” 19 week fetuses?

Lottie,
I feel you. I was in so much pain giving birth to my daughter, I actually threatened the doctor who was trying to check me b/c I thought he was going to break my water bag. It was such horrible pain, I said I’d kick him if he put anyting else inside me. I can’t immagine in my wildest dreams being able to reach inside myself and fish around for a cord with an instrument and cut it.

This story is bullshit.

]]> By: Aura KitKatting http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/19/i-dont-understand/#comment-190777 Aura KitKatting Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:14:26 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=7775#comment-190777 Jessica, I didn't realize there were other at-home abortions that had been attempted recently ~ not that it should surprise me, but I feel more saddened and disappointed than before. :( Do you have a source for the other one that you could give me please? Jessica, I didn’t realize there were other at-home abortions that had been attempted recently ~ not that it should surprise me, but I feel more saddened and disappointed than before. :(

Do you have a source for the other one that you could give me please?

]]> By: Jessica http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/19/i-dont-understand/#comment-190758 Jessica Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:15:25 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=7775#comment-190758 I believe that the difference is how far along she was? Alabama law only allows up to 19 weeks (the state law actually says that a fetus is viable at that point..hah) and Georgia only goes up to 24. So I guess that is why they are charging her with manslaughter? This story makes me incredibly sad. This makes two attempted at-home abortions in AL in 2 weeks that I have heard of. These women should be allowed safe abortions should they choose. I guarantee you she is going to be a pariah for the anti-choice sect, the second she goes on trial. This *IS* Alabama after all...considering the situation, and her social class...it's all but guaranteed. Sometimes living here completely blows my mind. I believe that the difference is how far along she was? Alabama law only allows up to 19 weeks (the state law actually says that a fetus is viable at that point..hah) and Georgia only goes up to 24. So I guess that is why they are charging her with manslaughter?

This story makes me incredibly sad. This makes two attempted at-home abortions in AL in 2 weeks that I have heard of. These women should be allowed safe abortions should they choose.

I guarantee you she is going to be a pariah for the anti-choice sect, the second she goes on trial. This *IS* Alabama after all…considering the situation, and her social class…it’s all but guaranteed.

Sometimes living here completely blows my mind.

]]> By: Cedar http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/19/i-dont-understand/#comment-190754 Cedar Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:10:30 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=7775#comment-190754 Dan in Denver? women don't just *decide* they don't want a baby at 7 months - even if they *are* "feeling blue." srsly. Dan in Denver? women don’t just *decide* they don’t want a baby at 7 months – even if they *are* “feeling blue.”

srsly.

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