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		<title>By: Name That Consent Porn! - The Sexist - Washington City Paper</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/23/feminist-porn-sex-consent-and-getting-off/#comment-276616</link>
		<dc:creator>Name That Consent Porn! - The Sexist - Washington City Paper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Kids today are taking more sexual cues from Internet porn, GQ reports. Parents are frightened because their teenagers are gang-banging and ejaculating on each others&#8217; faces. GQ is disappointed because its aged readership can&#8217;t get in on the fun. Personally, I&#8217;m pretty freaked out that &#8220;Travis and Cody, typical 21-year-old college students in Florida,&#8221; find female pubic hair &#8220;disgusting.&#8221; But more than pornography&#8217;s peculiar sexual obsessions&#8212;group sex, mandatory facials, and &#8220;porn-star trim&#8221; vaginas&#8212;I&#8217;m worried about what mainstream Internet porn almost never features: scenes of consent. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Kids today are taking more sexual cues from Internet porn, GQ reports. Parents are frightened because their teenagers are gang-banging and ejaculating on each others&#8217; faces. GQ is disappointed because its aged readership can&#8217;t get in on the fun. Personally, I&#8217;m pretty freaked out that &#8220;Travis and Cody, typical 21-year-old college students in Florida,&#8221; find female pubic hair &#8220;disgusting.&#8221; But more than pornography&#8217;s peculiar sexual obsessions&#8212;group sex, mandatory facials, and &#8220;porn-star trim&#8221; vaginas&#8212;I&#8217;m worried about what mainstream Internet porn almost never features: scenes of consent. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Feminist Porn: Where Are the Men? &#171; Kittywampus</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/23/feminist-porn-sex-consent-and-getting-off/#comment-237561</link>
		<dc:creator>Feminist Porn: Where Are the Men? &#171; Kittywampus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 01:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Feministe, KaeLyn has a well reasoned defense of sexual pleasure (including &#8220;politically incorrect&#8221; forms). The ensuing discussion is one of the most [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/23/feminist-porn-sex-consent-and-getting-off/#comment-205846</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 21:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pornography has been in our culture in one way or another for a long time.  But with the internet and other technology it has become much more common.  I worry about the effects it has on the watchers.  Not denouncing the watchers as immoral as I have been one.  Most boys these days will start to look at porn at a relatively young age it is natural that a teenage human being both girls and boys but probably stronger in boys a curiosity about sex, what it is what its like.  Unfortunately porn is not a very good place to learn these things.  And by being the first sexual outlet for a lot of boys it can really mold what they desire.  We all know that we have a desire for women, unless we are gay, and we all know that we have a desire for sex even before we know what it is.  Now thanks to porn we have 15 years desiring to cum on a girls face something that is clearly not instinctual and few men would have even thought to want twenty years ago.  Pornography these days is a part of mainstream Hollywood.  So the sexist values of Hollywood and American Capitalism, which is &quot;patriarchal&quot; as well as racist and classist and ethnocentric, come out in porn especially because porn is exclusively about sex.  Unfortunately there is not much we can do to control the content of porn just as we the people have very limited power in all the elements of our capitalist society.  I worry that it may be a crutch for boys to develop meaningful relationships, that may or may not include sex but are based on love.  I have no objection to blowjobs in a close relationship or marriage a woman should want to please her man and a man should want to please his woman.  Thats why sex is called making love.  But I worry about kids who dont think blowjobs are sex and pressure girls into performing this act which when it is one sided and by itself can seem pretty demeaning.  Thats another crutch, boys before they engage in a ny sexual encounters will know exactly how to fuck from all the pictures theyve seen.  But will they be able to make love?  Ultimately I do not see porn being used by adults as a sexual outlet which it was more that way in the past as a harmful thing.  Whether it harms the female performers or not?  Well a lot actually do get paid well and want the job perhaps it feels like being used I dont know?  More importantly I worry about boys growing up  in the first generation to grow up with access to internet porn videso not the more innocent Playboy mags  Ive watched porn myself and I dont think im a bad person but maybe it has effected my thinking in ways I would rather have not been molded.  We are all born a blank slate we desire food sex social interaction and a sense of belonging but for the most part we dont understand these desires and our minds start out as a blank slate so what we watch is important</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pornography has been in our culture in one way or another for a long time.  But with the internet and other technology it has become much more common.  I worry about the effects it has on the watchers.  Not denouncing the watchers as immoral as I have been one.  Most boys these days will start to look at porn at a relatively young age it is natural that a teenage human being both girls and boys but probably stronger in boys a curiosity about sex, what it is what its like.  Unfortunately porn is not a very good place to learn these things.  And by being the first sexual outlet for a lot of boys it can really mold what they desire.  We all know that we have a desire for women, unless we are gay, and we all know that we have a desire for sex even before we know what it is.  Now thanks to porn we have 15 years desiring to cum on a girls face something that is clearly not instinctual and few men would have even thought to want twenty years ago.  Pornography these days is a part of mainstream Hollywood.  So the sexist values of Hollywood and American Capitalism, which is &#8220;patriarchal&#8221; as well as racist and classist and ethnocentric, come out in porn especially because porn is exclusively about sex.  Unfortunately there is not much we can do to control the content of porn just as we the people have very limited power in all the elements of our capitalist society.  I worry that it may be a crutch for boys to develop meaningful relationships, that may or may not include sex but are based on love.  I have no objection to blowjobs in a close relationship or marriage a woman should want to please her man and a man should want to please his woman.  Thats why sex is called making love.  But I worry about kids who dont think blowjobs are sex and pressure girls into performing this act which when it is one sided and by itself can seem pretty demeaning.  Thats another crutch, boys before they engage in a ny sexual encounters will know exactly how to fuck from all the pictures theyve seen.  But will they be able to make love?  Ultimately I do not see porn being used by adults as a sexual outlet which it was more that way in the past as a harmful thing.  Whether it harms the female performers or not?  Well a lot actually do get paid well and want the job perhaps it feels like being used I dont know?  More importantly I worry about boys growing up  in the first generation to grow up with access to internet porn videso not the more innocent Playboy mags  Ive watched porn myself and I dont think im a bad person but maybe it has effected my thinking in ways I would rather have not been molded.  We are all born a blank slate we desire food sex social interaction and a sense of belonging but for the most part we dont understand these desires and our minds start out as a blank slate so what we watch is important</p>
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		<title>By: Bren Ryder</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/23/feminist-porn-sex-consent-and-getting-off/#comment-195926</link>
		<dc:creator>Bren Ryder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the mention in your list of feminist porn sites. Ahh, the never ending debate. I appreciate being included.
Much love,
Bren

http://www.gooddykeporn.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the mention in your list of feminist porn sites. Ahh, the never ending debate. I appreciate being included.<br />
Much love,<br />
Bren</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gooddykeporn.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.gooddykeporn.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: And now, an interjection from a sex-positive feminist &#171; XXBlaze</title>
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		<dc:creator>And now, an interjection from a sex-positive feminist &#171; XXBlaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Feministe, KaeLyn&#8217;s Feminist Porn: Sex, Consent, and Getting Off. I was pleasantly surprised. No overt anti-feminist sentiments were expressed. No glaring logical [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Harlequin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harlequin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was recently doing some research on prostitution rights and I realized how difficult it must be for policy makers to come up with a concrete decision.  i do agree that sex workers should be able to make their own decisions, and that women should be able to engage in sex work if they so desire, free of the abuse and demands of bosses or pimps.   But the bigger issue is society&#039;s views - I get really worked up over people&#039;s opinions of sex workers.  I am not sure if this attitude will ever really change, because it&#039;s almost easier to treat these women as if they are not real people, that way they do not seem as threatening.

I enjoy your posts though, very intelligent and well-written.

-Harlequin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was recently doing some research on prostitution rights and I realized how difficult it must be for policy makers to come up with a concrete decision.  i do agree that sex workers should be able to make their own decisions, and that women should be able to engage in sex work if they so desire, free of the abuse and demands of bosses or pimps.   But the bigger issue is society&#8217;s views &#8211; I get really worked up over people&#8217;s opinions of sex workers.  I am not sure if this attitude will ever really change, because it&#8217;s almost easier to treat these women as if they are not real people, that way they do not seem as threatening.</p>
<p>I enjoy your posts though, very intelligent and well-written.</p>
<p>-Harlequin</p>
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		<title>By: Things I took for granted this month &#171; blue milk</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/23/feminist-porn-sex-consent-and-getting-off/#comment-193702</link>
		<dc:creator>Things I took for granted this month &#171; blue milk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I knew everything there was to know about being vegetarian (NSFW). (Thanks Feministe and if anyone joins that vego porn site can they please get the recipe for tofu pie for me from [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pornocracy / Third Time&#8217;s a Charm</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/23/feminist-porn-sex-consent-and-getting-off/#comment-193249</link>
		<dc:creator>Pornocracy / Third Time&#8217;s a Charm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at Feministe there&#8217;s been a discussion going on about Feminist Porn, whether it exists, what it looks like, what it&#8217;s effects are. It&#8217;s been remarkably [...]</description>
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		<title>By: dallas</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/23/feminist-porn-sex-consent-and-getting-off/#comment-192390</link>
		<dc:creator>dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has been a really fascinating thread to read especially as someone who has a lot of conversations about porn with people every day. 

I just wanted to throw out there another idea that is always interesting to me during these discussions. We&#039;re having a lot of conversations about what is degrading or unpleasant for sex workers and those in the porn industry. What sometimes gets left out is how many people all over the world spend their lives working in jobs where they are uncomfortable or degraded. A significant amount of people in the world work at jobs that they hate because they need to make money. How many people get to do what they love or at least not feel humiliated in their work. Could it be that some people who make porn are actually happier in their work than, say, a mine worker in South Africa? It might be possible.

And yet we separate out sex and sex work. Is it that drastically different? I don&#039;t know the answer but I think it&#039;s an interesting topic to consider during these types of conversations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been a really fascinating thread to read especially as someone who has a lot of conversations about porn with people every day. </p>
<p>I just wanted to throw out there another idea that is always interesting to me during these discussions. We&#8217;re having a lot of conversations about what is degrading or unpleasant for sex workers and those in the porn industry. What sometimes gets left out is how many people all over the world spend their lives working in jobs where they are uncomfortable or degraded. A significant amount of people in the world work at jobs that they hate because they need to make money. How many people get to do what they love or at least not feel humiliated in their work. Could it be that some people who make porn are actually happier in their work than, say, a mine worker in South Africa? It might be possible.</p>
<p>And yet we separate out sex and sex work. Is it that drastically different? I don&#8217;t know the answer but I think it&#8217;s an interesting topic to consider during these types of conversations.</p>
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		<title>By: Trixie.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; In Passing: Feminist Porn</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/23/feminist-porn-sex-consent-and-getting-off/#comment-192373</link>
		<dc:creator>Trixie.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; In Passing: Feminist Porn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to our friend Nerdy Anna for pointing out this post on Feministe about porn sparking a discussion about whether or not &#8220;feminist porn&#8221; exists, etc.Honestly? I only [...]</description>
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