Comments on: Considering the Toothless Firefly, Among Other Things http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/31/considering-the-toothless-firefly-disney-ought-to-go-back-to-the-drawing-board-again/ In defense of the sanctimonious women's studies set. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:00:58 +0000 hourly 1 By: Drömmar om Disney « Thesecondfirst’s Blog http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/31/considering-the-toothless-firefly-disney-ought-to-go-back-to-the-drawing-board-again/#comment-231903 Drömmar om Disney « Thesecondfirst’s Blog Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:57:59 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=7865#comment-231903 [...] Feministe har skrivit om den första svarta Disneyprinsessan i Considering the Toothless Firefly, Among other things. [...] [...] Feministe har skrivit om den första svarta Disneyprinsessan i Considering the Toothless Firefly, Among other things. [...]

]]> By: Via http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/31/considering-the-toothless-firefly-disney-ought-to-go-back-to-the-drawing-board-again/#comment-195144 Via Wed, 06 Aug 2008 01:26:37 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=7865#comment-195144 I loved the original jazz era girl look. It had some power. Her features were stronger. Now she looks like a generic princess with some brown colouring in a poofy dress. Chambermaid was probably a poor choice for a profession but couldn't she have been changed to something else that did not involve a tiara? How about a musician? A singer? A seamstress? Way to go Disney. Obviously you didn't understand what was wrong at all. I loved the original jazz era girl look. It had some power. Her features were stronger.

Now she looks like a generic princess with some brown colouring in a poofy dress.

Chambermaid was probably a poor choice for a profession but couldn’t she have been changed to something else that did not involve a tiara? How about a musician? A singer? A seamstress?

Way to go Disney. Obviously you didn’t understand what was wrong at all.

]]> By: NicoleG http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/31/considering-the-toothless-firefly-disney-ought-to-go-back-to-the-drawing-board-again/#comment-194577 NicoleG Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:16:47 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=7865#comment-194577 Oh Christ in heaven, it was all going well until that bug showed up. Seriously?? P.S. Fantasia was one of my favorite movies as a child (yes, this is a pretty unpopular opinion) and it was very disturbing to see the edited-out footage on that YouTube video. I assume it was removed from my old VHS copy too because I don't think I'd ever seen that. Oh Christ in heaven, it was all going well until that bug showed up. Seriously??

P.S. Fantasia was one of my favorite movies as a child (yes, this is a pretty unpopular opinion) and it was very disturbing to see the edited-out footage on that YouTube video. I assume it was removed from my old VHS copy too because I don’t think I’d ever seen that.

]]> By: Scarlett http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/31/considering-the-toothless-firefly-disney-ought-to-go-back-to-the-drawing-board-again/#comment-194355 Scarlett Sun, 03 Aug 2008 10:51:51 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=7865#comment-194355 Oh, goody. On top of all the other problems with the character and the film, from the look of that trailer it seems that they've now straightened her hair. Evidently, ONE Disney princess with anything other than thick, shiny, straight-to-slightly-wavy hair was too much to ask for. Oh, goody. On top of all the other problems with the character and the film, from the look of that trailer it seems that they’ve now straightened her hair.

Evidently, ONE Disney princess with anything other than thick, shiny, straight-to-slightly-wavy hair was too much to ask for.

]]> By: Therese http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/31/considering-the-toothless-firefly-disney-ought-to-go-back-to-the-drawing-board-again/#comment-194338 Therese Sun, 03 Aug 2008 06:23:31 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=7865#comment-194338 Awful. The accents are awful. The name change is awful (why not just "Marie", like every other girl on the street in those days?). I can understand wanting to change it from a "chambermaid", but, goodness, what do you think working gals who weren't fortunate enough to be born into the elite were doing then? (My grandmother peeled shrimps, shucked oysters, and washed dishes. Her sister was another woman's housemaid.) As always, we're poorly represented in media, so I doubt that my fellow Louisianians are really surprised. Awful. The accents are awful. The name change is awful (why not just “Marie”, like every other girl on the street in those days?). I can understand wanting to change it from a “chambermaid”, but, goodness, what do you think working gals who weren’t fortunate enough to be born into the elite were doing then? (My grandmother peeled shrimps, shucked oysters, and washed dishes. Her sister was another woman’s housemaid.)

As always, we’re poorly represented in media, so I doubt that my fellow Louisianians are really surprised.

]]> By: bint alshamsa http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/31/considering-the-toothless-firefly-disney-ought-to-go-back-to-the-drawing-board-again/#comment-194324 bint alshamsa Sun, 03 Aug 2008 03:35:54 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=7865#comment-194324 Bushfire: <i>It’s pretty hard to believe Disney wants to make this movie to appeal to a Black audience. Since when do people start buying things from a company that portrays them in ignorantly stereotyped ways?</i> You know, I've had lots of conversations with other people of color about this. When I had my daughter, I made a promise to myself that I was only going to buy her dolls that looked like her, in other words, non-white dolls. Well, you know, that turned out to be a lot more difficult than I thought it would be. In the USA, it's REALLY hard to find toys that portray people of color. And if you do find them, there isn't going to be much to choose from. I had to spend an arm and a leg to find a doll that even remotely looked like my daughter. I'd love to have been able to boycott more companies, especially those that portray people of color in stereotyped roles but, when the only black/latina/Asian toys in the store are made by Mattel and Disney it gets a lot more difficult to just tell your kids they can't even have the doll that kinda sorta looks like someone who might be a person of color. Bushfire:

It’s pretty hard to believe Disney wants to make this movie to appeal to a Black audience. Since when do people start buying things from a company that portrays them in ignorantly stereotyped ways?

You know, I’ve had lots of conversations with other people of color about this. When I had my daughter, I made a promise to myself that I was only going to buy her dolls that looked like her, in other words, non-white dolls. Well, you know, that turned out to be a lot more difficult than I thought it would be. In the USA, it’s REALLY hard to find toys that portray people of color. And if you do find them, there isn’t going to be much to choose from. I had to spend an arm and a leg to find a doll that even remotely looked like my daughter. I’d love to have been able to boycott more companies, especially those that portray people of color in stereotyped roles but, when the only black/latina/Asian toys in the store are made by Mattel and Disney it gets a lot more difficult to just tell your kids they can’t even have the doll that kinda sorta looks like someone who might be a person of color.

]]> By: denelian http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/31/considering-the-toothless-firefly-disney-ought-to-go-back-to-the-drawing-board-again/#comment-194216 denelian Sat, 02 Aug 2008 03:40:51 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=7865#comment-194216 argh! i went and watched the trailer Cajuns, rise!!! beat down Disney!!! holy FUCK was that HORRIBLE argh!

i went and watched the trailer

Cajuns, rise!!! beat down Disney!!!

holy FUCK was that HORRIBLE

]]> By: denelian http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/31/considering-the-toothless-firefly-disney-ought-to-go-back-to-the-drawing-board-again/#comment-194214 denelian Sat, 02 Aug 2008 03:37:16 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=7865#comment-194214 slightly OT - Tiana is the name of a VERY famous Native (Cherokee) "Princess" who was very well known in the war of 1812 - she was instramental in the American's recieveing Native aid against the British. i'm not complaining that the new Disney "Princess" has this name, just wondering at, ya know? slightly OT – Tiana is the name of a VERY famous Native (Cherokee) “Princess” who was very well known in the war of 1812 – she was instramental in the American’s recieveing Native aid against the British.

i’m not complaining that the new Disney “Princess” has this name, just wondering at, ya know?

]]> By: Nancy http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/31/considering-the-toothless-firefly-disney-ought-to-go-back-to-the-drawing-board-again/#comment-194187 Nancy Fri, 01 Aug 2008 23:29:28 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=7865#comment-194187 I thought she looked a little forgetable. Pretty much as everyone says: a colorized version of a white princes. The frog? shudder. The bug...........YIKES. I thought she looked a little forgetable. Pretty much as everyone says: a colorized version of a white princes. The frog? shudder.

The bug………..YIKES.

]]> By: unrelatedwaffle http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/31/considering-the-toothless-firefly-disney-ought-to-go-back-to-the-drawing-board-again/#comment-194067 unrelatedwaffle Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:16:55 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=7865#comment-194067 You know, when I saw the <a href="http://www.animationnation.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=012987;p=1#000002" rel="nofollow">concept art</a> for this movie, I was really excited. The character in this preview is beyond disappointing. No charisma at all, a cross between Mulan and Jasmine, if you ask me. I thought "The Frog Princess" was quite a clever title, and when it was changed to "The Princess and the Frog" it lost all of its reference/pun value. I understand that they were trying to be less offensive, but if they were going to change the name, they should have gone with something completely new instead of trying to make the old one do linguistic gymnastics. You know, when I saw the concept art for this movie, I was really excited. The character in this preview is beyond disappointing. No charisma at all, a cross between Mulan and Jasmine, if you ask me.

I thought “The Frog Princess” was quite a clever title, and when it was changed to “The Princess and the Frog” it lost all of its reference/pun value. I understand that they were trying to be less offensive, but if they were going to change the name, they should have gone with something completely new instead of trying to make the old one do linguistic gymnastics.

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