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  1. octogalore
    octogalore August 12, 2008 at 2:28 pm |

    These are great links — thanks for them. BFP always brings a new angle (or a few of them), and I like Solnit’s piece as well.

    I do think “revealing how tired and limited the discussion has been pretty much everywhere else” is a little tactless, considering that two bloggers here have had posts on John Edwards.

  2. octogalore
    octogalore August 12, 2008 at 5:07 pm |

    No worries. Thanks for the quick follow up.

  3. Rockit
    Rockit August 12, 2008 at 5:34 pm |

    It’s definitely an interesting concept. Whether positive or negative, it seems every country has a certain idea of their national identity, and seeks to act by that idea. For example the US thinks of itself as the beacon of freedom in the world, and so aims to position its actions as part of a quest for freedom, no matter how tenuous or downright false the analogy happens to be. A country such as Japan on the other hand values its civility more, the Russians their tenacity, the French their sophistication, and so on. The traits most valued by a country in its national identity are the same ones the leaders attempt to present to the world as its guiding principles.

    And you see that in a country’s sport. More team sports than individual events perhaps, but in say football/soccer it’s uncanny how often many of the international teams conform to national stereotypes in the way they play. Obviously those stereotypes don’t reach too far over into real life but politicans still often seek to behave along those lines when it comes to international diplomacy. The parallel is probably in that both athletes and politicians are representing their country, and so internalise those ideas more strongly than ordinary people.

  4. Margalis
    Margalis August 12, 2008 at 7:30 pm |

    The thrust of BFP’s post appears to be that many women in politics started careers on the back of a sexual tryst. Is that actually true?

    I mean, is it really a ‘private matter’ that the core of u.s. government’s recruitment tactics is ‘fucking’?

    How many female politicians of note were recruited by fucking? I can’t name a single one. If you start rattling off a list of famous well-known female politicians – Hillary Clinton, Condi Rice, Barbara Boxer, Nancy Pelosi, Diane Feinstein, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Christine Todd Wittman – I don’t believe any of them got their start as mistresses. Clinton was a wife but has plenty of accomplishments to her own name.

    By comparison Monica Lewinsky and Gennifer Flowers aren’t joining the Supreme Court any time soon. And calling people like Lewinsky and Flowers “women in politics” is quite a stretch in itself. They aren’t in politics any more than a random groupie is in the Rolling Stones.

  5. Mattilda Bernstein Sycamore
    Mattilda Bernstein Sycamore August 13, 2008 at 2:26 am |

    Jessica, that that Rebecca Solnit column is stunning — thanks for posting!

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