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		<title>By: Lauren Larken</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/08/18/the-sex-workers-rights-thing-an-overview/#comment-201287</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren Larken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 03:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi There,

I wanted to let you know that at http://www.OnTheIssuesMagazine.com the current free edition features the Feminist Debate over Prostitution.  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi There,</p>
<p>I wanted to let you know that at <a href="http://www.OnTheIssuesMagazine.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.OnTheIssuesMagazine.com</a> the current free edition features the Feminist Debate over Prostitution.</p>
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		<title>By: Thursday Blogwhoring &#171; random babble&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thursday Blogwhoring &#171; random babble&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] who are kicking ass and taking names, Ren is guest blogging at Feministe right now.  She is covering a wide range of Sex Workers rights info, and stirring the pot in a much needed way in the process.  Have a good read, or [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] who are kicking ass and taking names, Ren is guest blogging at Feministe right now.  She is covering a wide range of Sex Workers rights info, and stirring the pot in a much needed way in the process.  Have a good read, or [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wow! Post on sex work that is a must-read &#171; Tilting at Windmills</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/08/18/the-sex-workers-rights-thing-an-overview/#comment-198010</link>
		<dc:creator>Wow! Post on sex work that is a must-read &#171; Tilting at Windmills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 02:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Post on sex work that is a&#160;must-read  21 08 2008   Here, Renegade Evolution makes some points worth thinking [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Post on sex work that is a&nbsp;must-read  21 08 2008   Here, Renegade Evolution makes some points worth thinking [...]</p>
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		<title>By: I agree &#171; Chicks Dig Me</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/08/18/the-sex-workers-rights-thing-an-overview/#comment-198008</link>
		<dc:creator>I agree &#171; Chicks Dig Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 02:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#160;agree  &#8230;what what is said in this post. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: hexy</title>
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		<dc:creator>hexy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blackpaw: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;hexy, I could say that the difference between commercial and non-commercial is public vs private and that commercial workers encounter a wider range of people.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Some do, some don&#039;t. It ties into that whole &quot;not a monolith&quot; thing... and there are some extremely promiscuous &quot;amateurs&quot; out there!

&lt;blockquote&gt;But having seen the feedback here, particularly from those actually in the industry such as yourself that requirements for health checks are unnecessary and unethical I find have to agree with you and others (such as alicepaul). &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Good on you! It&#039;s far too rare for people to take the approach that we know what we&#039;re talking about :) I really appreciate your attitude.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Far better to encourage and make it easier for sexworkers to access that health care as needed. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Absolutely. Sex workers are more likely to access services if they are free and available, and don&#039;t require outing yourself to use. This is especially significant for the most marginalised workers: if they need to register to get the free health checks, they&#039;ll work off the grid and avoid the health services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blackpaw: </p>
<blockquote><p>hexy, I could say that the difference between commercial and non-commercial is public vs private and that commercial workers encounter a wider range of people.</p></blockquote>
<p>Some do, some don&#8217;t. It ties into that whole &#8220;not a monolith&#8221; thing&#8230; and there are some extremely promiscuous &#8220;amateurs&#8221; out there!</p>
<blockquote><p>But having seen the feedback here, particularly from those actually in the industry such as yourself that requirements for health checks are unnecessary and unethical I find have to agree with you and others (such as alicepaul). </p></blockquote>
<p>Good on you! It&#8217;s far too rare for people to take the approach that we know what we&#8217;re talking about :) I really appreciate your attitude.</p>
<blockquote><p>Far better to encourage and make it easier for sexworkers to access that health care as needed. </p></blockquote>
<p>Absolutely. Sex workers are more likely to access services if they are free and available, and don&#8217;t require outing yourself to use. This is especially significant for the most marginalised workers: if they need to register to get the free health checks, they&#8217;ll work off the grid and avoid the health services.</p>
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		<title>By: Sb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Faith: &quot; Can you provide any sort of evidence to support this? &quot;

The best way to look for this information is to look on the European government websites for their reports. The European commission is a good place to start.

Be careful with your search terms  don&#039;t use phrases like&quot; sex trafficking&quot; as you will not get the nonsex reports if you do that you need to use terms like THB (Trafficked Human Beings).

Just remember this if two young women coming to work in a Brothel in London get turned back at the airport it makes the papers (sometimes) if 60 men coming to work in the south wales fishing get intercepted it never  makes the papers. If those 60 men die while being trafficked it might make the papers!

In other words nonsex trafficked people tend to have to die or they never make the papers hence they tend to be invisible is it is the sex trafficked people who get the newspaper space.

Sb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faith: &#8221; Can you provide any sort of evidence to support this? &#8221;</p>
<p>The best way to look for this information is to look on the European government websites for their reports. The European commission is a good place to start.</p>
<p>Be careful with your search terms  don&#8217;t use phrases like&#8221; sex trafficking&#8221; as you will not get the nonsex reports if you do that you need to use terms like THB (Trafficked Human Beings).</p>
<p>Just remember this if two young women coming to work in a Brothel in London get turned back at the airport it makes the papers (sometimes) if 60 men coming to work in the south wales fishing get intercepted it never  makes the papers. If those 60 men die while being trafficked it might make the papers!</p>
<p>In other words nonsex trafficked people tend to have to die or they never make the papers hence they tend to be invisible is it is the sex trafficked people who get the newspaper space.</p>
<p>Sb</p>
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		<title>By: Faith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Faith, there’s an LA Times piece that cites some estimates on this. I wish I still had the link to the original data, but I seem to have misplaced it. Will look.&quot;

Okey dokey. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Faith, there’s an LA Times piece that cites some estimates on this. I wish I still had the link to the original data, but I seem to have misplaced it. Will look.&#8221;</p>
<p>Okey dokey. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Natalia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Natalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Faith, there&#039;s an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/suncommentary/la-op-skinner23mar23,1,6122872.story&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LA Times piece&lt;/a&gt; that cites some estimates on this. I wish I still had the link to the original data, but I seem to have misplaced it. Will look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faith, there&#8217;s an <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/suncommentary/la-op-skinner23mar23,1,6122872.story" rel="nofollow">LA Times piece</a> that cites some estimates on this. I wish I still had the link to the original data, but I seem to have misplaced it. Will look.</p>
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		<title>By: Faith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Basically western Europe has a trafficking problem with people from eastern Europe however 90% of that trafficking has nothing to do with the sex trade but things like building work/farming/domestic service etc. Only 10% of the traffic is to do with adult sex work.&quot;

Can you provide any sort of evidence to support this? Given that so many trafficking victims are never found, or their captors caught and convicted, I have difficulty believing anyone has any real idea what percentage of trafficking victims are being turned into sex slaves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Basically western Europe has a trafficking problem with people from eastern Europe however 90% of that trafficking has nothing to do with the sex trade but things like building work/farming/domestic service etc. Only 10% of the traffic is to do with adult sex work.&#8221;</p>
<p>Can you provide any sort of evidence to support this? Given that so many trafficking victims are never found, or their captors caught and convicted, I have difficulty believing anyone has any real idea what percentage of trafficking victims are being turned into sex slaves.</p>
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		<title>By: Blackpaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blackpaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tlady : &lt;i&gt;Also you might want to consider the woman in Germany who had her unemployment benefits cut because she refused to take a perfectly good job as a prostitute&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.snopes.com/media/notnews/brothel.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
Fud, Urban Myth, complete rubbish, doesn&#039;t pass the sniff test:Snopes&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tlady : <i>Also you might want to consider the woman in Germany who had her unemployment benefits cut because she refused to take a perfectly good job as a prostitute</i></p>
<p><a href="http://www.snopes.com/media/notnews/brothel.asp" rel="nofollow"><br />
Fud, Urban Myth, complete rubbish, doesn&#8217;t pass the sniff test:Snopes</a></p>
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