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    BadKitty 9.7.2008 at 9:15 pm |

    Who knew gay people had so much in common with Sarah Palin? She prays for the gays to go away and we pray for Sarah Palin to go away.

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    Andy 9.7.2008 at 9:34 pm |

    @ BadKitty: LOL!

    Yeah, it pisses me off that this won’t get as much attention.

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    Alex, FCD 9.7.2008 at 10:03 pm |

    Palin, campaigning with McCain in the Midwest on Friday, has not publicly expressed a view on the so-called “pray away the gay” movement.

    c.f. the “thespian away the lesbian”, “cry away the bi”, “surrender away the transgender” and “beer away the queer” movements.

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    Peter 9.7.2008 at 10:28 pm |

    “Converting gays” won’t be seen as scandalous or bigoted.

    Converting gays is accepted as conventional wisdom by large parts of the american electorate, particularly in greater wingnutotopia.

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    Rhonil 9.7.2008 at 10:37 pm |

    “Converting” gays is obviously a stupid and bigoted idea.

    But why all the hate towards trying to convert Jews to Christianity? Working to convert non-Christians is one of the fundamental tenets of many branches of Christianity (which has had unfortunate historical consequences of course).

    Would we be so judgmental about a Muslim candidate? After all, Muslims actively seek to convert non-believers to their belief system. I do not find it offensive at all when Muslims do this – maybe I’m alone here.

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    oh!press pass 9.7.2008 at 10:50 pm |

    Ugh. Haven’t they already proven that these don’t work? Reminds of one of my favorite movies BUT I’M A CHEERLEADER.

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    natmusk 9.7.2008 at 11:02 pm |

    Rhonil,

    I agree with Cara that I have great distaste for evangelizing in general, but another issue with that wasn’t the urge to convert but the belief that the people of Isreal were being punished BECAUSE they hadn’t converted to Christiantity.

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    Sve' 9.7.2008 at 11:23 pm |

    It doesn’t seem like outright bigotry..true some is hatred towards gay pple. But is it really about keeping us under control.

    The matter with Christians trying to convert Jews is not working rather OPPOSITE

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    Sungold 9.7.2008 at 11:31 pm |

    But faith is *personal*! It shouldn’t concern us at all if Palin might believe we’re marching steadily toward Armageddon! Why are you picking on Palin’s faith? Isn’t it sexist to pick on her faith? Her family goes to church with her – why are you targeting her family?

    In all seriousness, the specifics of Palin’s faith is an area where we still know *very* little and have reason to suspect it could deeply impact her decision-making, should she become president. It’s one thing if ordinary citizens believe that the Rapture is imminent, though even that is not a healthy thing for democracy. It’s quite another if the president believes she’ll be spirited up to heaven while I’ll be “left behind.”

    Great post, Cara. Andrew Sullivan has picked up on the “conversion of gays through prayer” theme, so let’s hope the Log Cabin guys will get stirred to action.

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    SarahMC 9.7.2008 at 11:31 pm |

    Rhonil, as someone who grew up in an evangelical church, I guess my perspective is a little more insider-y (and obviously I am making an assumption about your own experience w/ religion, and I could be wrong).
    This type of Christian has contempt for Jewish people because they’re Jewish. They don’t actually care about Jewish people; they want to work with them in order to bring about the “second coming” of Jesus. In other words, they think they’re going to hell, but they’re useful insofar as they can help Christians get to heaven faster. It’s hard to explain but it’s a repulsive, callous worldview.

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    Jill 9.7.2008 at 11:38 pm | *

    It doesn’t seem like outright bigotry..true some is hatred towards gay pple. But is it really about keeping us under control.

    Maybe I’m mis-reading, but can you explain how “some hatred towards gay people” coupled with trying to keep gay people under control isn’t outright bigotry?

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    ol cranky 9.8.2008 at 7:24 pm |

    can you explain how “some hatred towards gay people” coupled with trying to keep gay people under control isn’t outright bigotry?

    it isn’t bigotry because “good, Christian” people are the ones doing it – those of you who hate the haters are just anti-Christian bigots

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