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    lilacsigil 9.8.2008 at 3:04 am |

    Samantha Ronson was recently in Australia (in her capacity as a highly paid DJ) and all the mainstream press articles I saw about her just mentioned that she was dating Lindsay Lohan, or was “not bringing girlfriend Lindsay Lohan to Australia”, and that was it. Pretty much the same treatment as a minor male celeb with a famous girlfriend, as far as I could see. We must be reading different sites…

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    Lauren O 9.8.2008 at 3:17 am |

    Wow, could that article you linked to be any more dismissive of gayness?

    The first fucking sentence: “Lindsay Lohan wants to raise a child with gal pal Samantha Ronson, according to a new report.” Umm, I think if you’re considering raising a child with someone, we’re probably past the point where it’s appropriate to refer to them as a “gal pal.” How about “girlfriend” or “partner”?

    Another angle about conservative thought on homosexuality: my dad and I were recently having a conversation about t3h gayz (he thinks it is, and I quote, “an abomination in the eyes of god”). He said homosexuality is hurtful because gay people co-opt straight people into being gay. His example was Lindsay Lohan. I always thought that fear of gay conversion shit was just for the really loony fundamentalists, but apparently not. Conservatives are apparently quite afraid of the hypnotic powers of same-sex attraction. Because that would mean that a woman could convince another woman to stop being subject to men! And what if a dude made another dude into a homo?!

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    Thlayli 9.8.2008 at 5:42 am |

    He said homosexuality is hurtful because gay people co-opt straight people into being gay. His example was Lindsay Lohan.

    Has Lohan been linked with anyone male in the past? (All I ever remember reading about her focused on her boozing and drugging.)

    If Ronson is her first serious relationship, then she hasn’t actually “changed” anything.

    She didn’t switch, she came out.

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    Olli 9.8.2008 at 6:37 am |

    She might be – shock! – bi… but again, it’s none of our business.

    I’m rather unaware of the doings of celebrities… but I first heard about those two going out what? Months ago? And they’re having a relationship that doesn’t seem to be entirely dysfunctional – how rare are those things in Hollywood?

    Maybe they’re a useful antidote to the mild homophobia disguised as lesbian erotica that is Katy Perry (is that her name?)

    Of course, it would be nice if minority groups weren’t judged by their celebrity members… but, y’know.

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    Cree 9.8.2008 at 7:25 am |

    I don’t think Lindsay or Samantha has stated that they’re in a relationship, and it’s basically all hear-say and assumptions. Until one of them says it, then we don’t know what the fuck their relationship is and it’s really none of our business.

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    JenLovesPonies 9.8.2008 at 8:34 am |

    I have to agree with Cree. As far as I know, the relationship is still speculation. I certainly don’t want to downplay two women dating, but I also don’t want to assume things about other people’s personal lives. I also don’t want to assume “lesbian”- people can be things besides gay or straight (and even people who have same-sex relationships can still id as straight.) To be honest, I have no idea if she has dated men in the past, except I thought there was some boyfriend stealing between her and Paris? Maybe that was the Olsen Twins? Hmmm.

    That said, with the exception of that, I do love the rest of the column. Passive pussy complex is a fantastic description.

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    Thomas 9.8.2008 at 9:23 am |

    I don’t often follow celebrity news, but I have a soft spot for Lindsay Lohan, in part because she can really act (I watched the Freaky Friday remake with my niece, having loved the Jodie Foster original, and I was impressed, and I saw Mean Girls and liked it). Lohan has a problem family and has struggled with substance abuse, in the fishbowl environment where young female celebrities are stalked by vultures rooting for disaster. I really root for her. I hope she’s happy, I hope she’s stable and sober and gets back to working and leaves the tabloids little to report but a string of successful movies and an unremarkable, happy personal life.

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    One Lesbo 9.8.2008 at 9:23 am |

    When 2 adults spend 98% of their time together, leave public love notes for each other on their MySpace blogs, are dating no one else, publically kiss, hold hands, and go out together with their parents – they are a couple. What do you people want – a photo of them touching genitals?

    I don’t know what happened with Lindsay Lohan. She appears to be someone who was feeling and acting pretty low. She’s now openly living a life with Ronson that includes the above and she looks happier and healthier than ever.

    I tend to think that she is gay and always has been gay. Maybe it’s that Freaky Friday movie since it seems to have turned Jodie Foster gay too. Perhaps the dad mentioned above should just make sure that none of his female love interests ever play the lead because I’m pretty sure that movies can turn straight people gay.

    I find it amusing that heterosexuals apparently live on the edge of being gay and at any moment one of us could give them that glance or say just the right thing so that they’d drop their orientation and go for the switch.

    That is so weird because all of my life I’ve seen men and women kiss, hold hands, get married, have kids – in the movies and in reality . . . yet never once have I been tempted to jump off the homo ledge to the other side.

    It must be hard being a hetero.

    Kisses,

    One Lesbo

    wwww.2lesbosgoinatit.wordpress.com

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    Q Grrl 9.8.2008 at 10:00 am |

    I agree with your points about heterosexuality and women, but as a middle aged lesbian who remembers the closet all too well, I’m thrilled that the issue of Lohan’s lesbianism is public fodder. She’s young enough to be my daughter, so I can’t say she’s a role model; but at the same time, she is, just by being out.

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    DaisyDeadhead 9.8.2008 at 10:11 am |

    Dear God the black women are living without a dick to submit to, how will we survive as a people?

    Renee, you kill me!! :D

    This is why I love your blog. Great post.

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    Rose 9.8.2008 at 11:01 am |

    Ditto to One Lesbo. I really like that Linds and Sam are so open about their love for each other and don’t feel the need to hold a press conference to announce their relationship. It just is what it is.

    Also, I never made the Freaky Friday/Lesbian connection before! When I was 7 years old, my parents took me to see Rocky, but I was bored and kept sneaking out of the theater to duck into the one playing Freaky Friday with Jodie Foster.

    Unfortunately, this did not make me a lesbian. I guess you actually have to star in a Freaky Friday movie to guarantee that result. Still, I think it was a noble try on my part.

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    L-K 9.8.2008 at 11:05 am |

    Cree and JenLovesPonies – just like One Lesbo said, just visit their MySpace pages (…I was bored…I had time to kill…umm, umm, yeah, time to kill o_O ) and it’s quite obvious. And Lohan did respond back when the LAPD chief made that “gone gay” comment about her, pretty much telling him to mind his own business.

    They are a very cute couple. Besides, it’s great to have more publicly out (or implied) LGBTQ celebrities, particularly younger ones. Although Lohan has had her problems, she does seem healthier and more at peace.

    Like Lauren O, I’m also pissed off about the “gal pal” label. It’s completely unnecessary. Why don’t they just say “Lindsay Lohan and Samantha Ronson were at so and so spot”? Oh, right, I forget.

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    William 9.8.2008 at 12:01 pm |

    He said homosexuality is hurtful because gay people co-opt straight people into being gay. His example was Lindsay Lohan. I always thought that fear of gay conversion shit was just for the really loony fundamentalists, but apparently not. Conservatives are apparently quite afraid of the hypnotic powers of same-sex attraction. Because that would mean that a woman could convince another woman to stop being subject to men! And what if a dude made another dude into a homo?!

    Hey, its important to understand that gays can and do co-opt heterosexuals on a regular basis. This is not a theory or some ignorant prejudice, but a very important scientific fact that needs to be accepted. After all, if gays can’t convince straight people into same sex relationships, then all those times straight people were with gay people might mean that the straight people actually enjoyed it or, worse still, might not be straight. That leads to all sorts of terrible places. I mean, really, if being straight or gay didn’t mean what we thought it meant then society would crumble. How would we know who to have sex with? Or who to beat up?

    No, its much easier to just explain away the cracks in the dyad of human sexuality by homomagick.

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    SilentBob 9.8.2008 at 12:42 pm |

    Beautifully well written article, if only an article such as this could be read by the general masses like the Lesbian, Lesbian, Lesbian articles that we see everywhere these days but hey it’s not all negative in fact the majority about Lindsay Lohan and Samantha Ronson relationship are down right nice and if the news media can accept the fact that these two lovely girls are fucking each other, then maybe someday so can the general masses accept it and if they can learn to accept then maybe someday this issue just wont be an issue and on that day your website would become a moot point that of which no one will care to ever visit again So lets hope that never happen right!?!. lol (sorry for all the errors)

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    Jay@racialicious 9.8.2008 at 2:54 pm |

    Has Lohan been linked with anyone male in the past?

    Yes. She was linked to Wilmer Valderama (That 70′s Show) before she started becoming superthin. Don’t remember if she was ever disparaged for that though (cause if there’s something that riles up mainstream patriarchy it’s white women with men of color)

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    jayinchicago 9.8.2008 at 4:24 pm |

    I call bi-invisibility on this.
    I don’t know how Lohan identifies. But, neither does anyone else here. I automatically assume she must be straight or lesbian, as if those are the only two categories women fall into is ridiculous.

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    alexandra 9.8.2008 at 6:50 pm |

    I’m with jayinchicago. I’m a bisexual woman, and much though I love and root for my lesbian sisters out there, it gets a little annoying when the media assumes that all women who are in love with women are lesbian – are homosexual. I remember there was a nearly identical thread about Portia de Rossi a while ago on this site, and it’s kind of frustrating.

    If Lindsey Lohan is gay, and has figured that out for herself – great. If she’s bisexual – great. If she doesn’t define her sexuality in terms of the gender binary – great! The fact remains that she’s publicly in a relationship with a woman and her life and perceptions of her in the media are going to alter drastically. I wish her the best.

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    Chloe 9.9.2008 at 5:21 am |

    I haven’t noticed that the media has obsessed more about Lohan than they have with hetero celeb relationships. Lindsay has had so many problems over the years, I’m happy to read that she has a stable relationship now, whether it’s “conventional” or not.

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    Meg 9.9.2008 at 8:09 am |

    A celebrity magazine (cough cough) which I would never read (ahem) because it is pointless and trashy… said that Lindsay Lohan’s myspace listed her as bi. I’m apt to take her word for it.

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