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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: Grandpa Dinosaur</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/09/11/the-audacity-of-whiteness/#comment-202855</link>
		<dc:creator>Grandpa Dinosaur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[DaisyDeadhead]

*high fives*</description>
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<p>*high fives*</p>
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		<title>By: Cola Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/09/11/the-audacity-of-whiteness/#comment-202705</link>
		<dc:creator>Cola Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody needs a mansion all to themselves. It&#039;s lonely up here, and while I can think of the ways that I have benefited from privilege, it is of great importance to me to identify and own my privilege. You can&#039;t essentialise whiteness; there is an overlapping of identities, and I don&#039;t know what precipitated this post, but some of us suffer too, and many of us are making sincere efforts to be better people and make the world a better place. That totally starts by opening up the doors, because these halls are damn drafty, and I don&#039;t want to run a world that makes you feel like this.

I respect and appreciate your contributions here and elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody needs a mansion all to themselves. It&#8217;s lonely up here, and while I can think of the ways that I have benefited from privilege, it is of great importance to me to identify and own my privilege. You can&#8217;t essentialise whiteness; there is an overlapping of identities, and I don&#8217;t know what precipitated this post, but some of us suffer too, and many of us are making sincere efforts to be better people and make the world a better place. That totally starts by opening up the doors, because these halls are damn drafty, and I don&#8217;t want to run a world that makes you feel like this.</p>
<p>I respect and appreciate your contributions here and elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Juan</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/09/11/the-audacity-of-whiteness/#comment-202691</link>
		<dc:creator>Juan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GAH! *headdesk* Why did I click on that Cassy link? Just a continuation of audacity and failure.  *shakes fist at Daisy for perking my curiosity* 

It&#039;s a example of the quote:

&quot;In the generous post racial world in which we live whites continues to feel entitled to their anger at the minimal loss of privilege that they have experienced, yet when a WOC rightly speaks out about issues effecting our lives our anger is somehow overly aggressive or uncalled for.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GAH! *headdesk* Why did I click on that Cassy link? Just a continuation of audacity and failure.  *shakes fist at Daisy for perking my curiosity* </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a example of the quote:</p>
<p>&#8220;In the generous post racial world in which we live whites continues to feel entitled to their anger at the minimal loss of privilege that they have experienced, yet when a WOC rightly speaks out about issues effecting our lives our anger is somehow overly aggressive or uncalled for.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Links you should read &#171; Uppity Brown Woman</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/09/11/the-audacity-of-whiteness/#comment-202684</link>
		<dc:creator>Links you should read &#171; Uppity Brown Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Audacity of Whiteness (Feministe &amp; Womanist Musings) In the generous post racial world in which we live whites continues to feel [...]</description>
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		<title>By: DaisyDeadhead</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/09/11/the-audacity-of-whiteness/#comment-202656</link>
		<dc:creator>DaisyDeadhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Cassy, take a look at my big WHITE ass!!!! 

&lt;i&gt;((((moons Cassy Fiano))))&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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<p><i>((((moons Cassy Fiano))))</i></p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/09/11/the-audacity-of-whiteness/#comment-202632</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t you realize how much power you have?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you realize how much power you have?</p>
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		<title>By: Angel H.</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/09/11/the-audacity-of-whiteness/#comment-202408</link>
		<dc:creator>Angel H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Yes racism should make everyone angry. But keep in mind there is a difference between venting anger and having a constructive conversation between races/ genders. etc.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And &lt;a href=&quot;http://theangryblackwoman.wordpress.com/2008/02/12/the-privilege-of-politeness/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&#039;s a post&lt;/a&gt; about why we get pissed off when people tell us to watch our tone:

&lt;blockquote&gt;One item that comes up over and over in discussions of racism is that of tone/attitude. People of Color (POC) are very often called on their tone when they bring up racism, the idea being that if POC were just more polite about the whole thing the offending person would have listened and apologized right away. This not only derails the discussion but also tries to turn the insults/race issues into the fault of POC and their tone. Many POC have come to the realization that the expectation of politeness when saying something insulting is a form of privilege. &lt;b&gt;At the core of this expectation of politeness is the idea that the POC in question should teach the offender what was wrong with their statement. Because in my experience what is meant by “be polite” is “teach me”, teach me why you’re offended by this, teach me how to be racially sensitive and the bottom line is that it is no one’s responsibility to teach anyone else. And even when POC are as polite as possible there is still hostility read into the words because people are so afraid of being called racist that they would rather go on offending than deal with the hard road of confronting their own prejudices.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yes racism should make everyone angry. But keep in mind there is a difference between venting anger and having a constructive conversation between races/ genders. etc.</p></blockquote>
<p>And <a href="http://theangryblackwoman.wordpress.com/2008/02/12/the-privilege-of-politeness/" rel="nofollow">here&#8217;s a post</a> about why we get pissed off when people tell us to watch our tone:</p>
<blockquote><p>One item that comes up over and over in discussions of racism is that of tone/attitude. People of Color (POC) are very often called on their tone when they bring up racism, the idea being that if POC were just more polite about the whole thing the offending person would have listened and apologized right away. This not only derails the discussion but also tries to turn the insults/race issues into the fault of POC and their tone. Many POC have come to the realization that the expectation of politeness when saying something insulting is a form of privilege. <b>At the core of this expectation of politeness is the idea that the POC in question should teach the offender what was wrong with their statement. Because in my experience what is meant by “be polite” is “teach me”, teach me why you’re offended by this, teach me how to be racially sensitive and the bottom line is that it is no one’s responsibility to teach anyone else. And even when POC are as polite as possible there is still hostility read into the words because people are so afraid of being called racist that they would rather go on offending than deal with the hard road of confronting their own prejudices.</b></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Alyssa</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/09/11/the-audacity-of-whiteness/#comment-202341</link>
		<dc:creator>Alyssa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 06:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes you have a right to be angry.  Yes you should be allowed to express that anger without others trying to take away that anger.  Yes racism should make everyone angry.  But keep in mind there is a difference between venting anger and having a constructive conversation between races/ genders. etc.  
For those of you having trouble understanding why you get such a negative reaction from people that are &quot;allies&quot; (I hate that term) there is a Addicted to Race posted on Racialicious that speaks to this very topic. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.racialicious.com/2008/09/10/preview-of-atr-premium-7-dr-peggy-mcintosh/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
http://www.racialicious.com/2008/09/10/preview-of-atr-premium-7-dr-peggy-mcintosh/&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes you have a right to be angry.  Yes you should be allowed to express that anger without others trying to take away that anger.  Yes racism should make everyone angry.  But keep in mind there is a difference between venting anger and having a constructive conversation between races/ genders. etc.<br />
For those of you having trouble understanding why you get such a negative reaction from people that are &#8220;allies&#8221; (I hate that term) there is a Addicted to Race posted on Racialicious that speaks to this very topic. <a href="http://www.racialicious.com/2008/09/10/preview-of-atr-premium-7-dr-peggy-mcintosh/" rel="nofollow"><br />
</a><a href="http://www.racialicious.com/2008/09/10/preview-of-atr-premium-7-dr-peggy-mcintosh/" rel="nofollow">http://www.racialicious.com/2008/09/10/preview-of-atr-premium-7-dr-peggy-mcintosh/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bagel-san</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/09/11/the-audacity-of-whiteness/#comment-202339</link>
		<dc:creator>Bagel-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 06:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I DEFINITELY agree that white people shouldn&#039;t try to hijack the thread/post (not that you *need* me to agree, but I do just fyi. :p) But I&#039;m a little bit confused regarding the admonition that this is NOT about white people it&#039;s about WOC, in that I often have difficulty drawing a very firm line between the two. Sure, if someone starts out saying &quot;I&#039;m white, but...&quot; it&#039;s kinda obvious, but I&#039;m not sure how much you&#039;re intending this to encompass the experiences of people who aren&#039;t either very-obviously-white or clearly-always-POC.

In other words, I am completely on board with it being black-only or brown-only or everybody-but-white-people only, or whatever, but I&#039;m just not clear which of these you want it to be. (Or seriously, delete the hell out of my post, &#039;cause that&#039;s a plenty clear message too. ^^;)

And seriously, Dave, you&#039;re not doing yourself any favors by talking back. If it doesn&#039;t describe you, it&#039;s not addressing you, and if it *does* describe you, her outrage is a lot less of a problem here than your level of suck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I DEFINITELY agree that white people shouldn&#8217;t try to hijack the thread/post (not that you *need* me to agree, but I do just fyi. :p) But I&#8217;m a little bit confused regarding the admonition that this is NOT about white people it&#8217;s about WOC, in that I often have difficulty drawing a very firm line between the two. Sure, if someone starts out saying &#8220;I&#8217;m white, but&#8230;&#8221; it&#8217;s kinda obvious, but I&#8217;m not sure how much you&#8217;re intending this to encompass the experiences of people who aren&#8217;t either very-obviously-white or clearly-always-POC.</p>
<p>In other words, I am completely on board with it being black-only or brown-only or everybody-but-white-people only, or whatever, but I&#8217;m just not clear which of these you want it to be. (Or seriously, delete the hell out of my post, &#8217;cause that&#8217;s a plenty clear message too. ^^;)</p>
<p>And seriously, Dave, you&#8217;re not doing yourself any favors by talking back. If it doesn&#8217;t describe you, it&#8217;s not addressing you, and if it *does* describe you, her outrage is a lot less of a problem here than your level of suck.</p>
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		<title>By: Cassy Fiano &#187; Racism goes both ways, you know.</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/09/11/the-audacity-of-whiteness/#comment-202329</link>
		<dc:creator>Cassy Fiano &#187; Racism goes both ways, you know.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ahead and be prepared to be very offended when you read this. The audacity of whiteness never ceases to amaze me. Some make the most obvious racial statements [...]</description>
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