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		<title>By: BallotVox &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Palin: Feminist Role Model or Not?</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/09/14/looking-at-sarah-somehow-seeing-condi/#comment-208908</link>
		<dc:creator>BallotVox &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Palin: Feminist Role Model or Not?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Peterson is a cool4pro guest blogger at Feministe and Racialicious. She refutes, by using Condi Rice as a parallel, the notion that a strong woman is necessarily an advocate for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kimba</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/09/14/looking-at-sarah-somehow-seeing-condi/#comment-203665</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok time for this feminist to chime in.

A little background on myself. I am a Nurse Practitioner and Teach at a major University. I have a masters and I am working on my doctorate. My specialty is women’s health. I have been a nurse for 20 years and a feminist for 25 (started at age 15 when I discovered the boy at my summer job were making 10 more an hour than the girls).

I have 4 children the youngest is 11mo and the eldest is nearing 20. She is at University studying Business Management. I AM WOMAN! I KNOW I can do anything, and most of the time much better and quicker than a man. I DON’T NEED A MAN (Obama)to fight for my rights.

My husband comes home from his full time job and cooks dinner, cleans, and puts the kids to bed! Yes I make more than my husband, and I am looking forward to the day He can be a stay at home dad! I am the center of it all!

Sisters, we need to get down to business.
Ok,

as I have written on other Feminist Blogs I feel the need to write here.

As a feminist I AM NOT a one issue girl. You can read my comments on Women against Sara Palin if you would like clarification.Feminists began fighting for equal pay for equal work (which we STILL do not have) and Abortion rights. I need to set the record straight.

Those of you who think Roe v Wade will be overturned are swallowing the Dem bull. It simply will not happen. If this election for you is simply about a prochoice candidate, you are throwing away your vote. They need your vote to win and are now scampering to get it.

The Dem should have picked Clinton. It will be 8 years before they get another chance to pick a woman. NO MAN will support women like women will!!

WAKE UP SISTERS there is only 1 ticket that actually had the guts to put a women on the ticket and that is the one we MUST support. THIS IS OUR SHOT.

McCain will hand over to A WOMAN! Do you really think a MAN from Chicago really cares about equal pay and power for women? What does he pay his male staffers compared to the females (about $10,000 more a year, but McCain pays females on his staff MORE than the men!). Obama had the chance to put a women on the ticket and did not.

The Dems PASSED OVER a more qualified women for a MAN! What does that tell you? So them dems throw us a bone by supporting abortion right. THIS IS NOT ENOUGH! WE NEED REAL POWER!

Join with me sisters, support EVERY powerful women who is running. When we win the feminist war, we can argue about the spoils later. WE NEED THE POWER FIRST!!!

As for the rape kits, this is a standard charge for ALL HOSPITALS to insurance companies. THIS IS WRITTEN OFF FOR THOSE WITHOUT INSURANCE! This is a non-issue and a farce.

Not supporting Palin is the BIGGEST mistake a feminist can make!

I was going to vote for Clinton…but the choice is clear…VOTE FOR THE WOMAN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok time for this feminist to chime in.</p>
<p>A little background on myself. I am a Nurse Practitioner and Teach at a major University. I have a masters and I am working on my doctorate. My specialty is women’s health. I have been a nurse for 20 years and a feminist for 25 (started at age 15 when I discovered the boy at my summer job were making 10 more an hour than the girls).</p>
<p>I have 4 children the youngest is 11mo and the eldest is nearing 20. She is at University studying Business Management. I AM WOMAN! I KNOW I can do anything, and most of the time much better and quicker than a man. I DON’T NEED A MAN (Obama)to fight for my rights.</p>
<p>My husband comes home from his full time job and cooks dinner, cleans, and puts the kids to bed! Yes I make more than my husband, and I am looking forward to the day He can be a stay at home dad! I am the center of it all!</p>
<p>Sisters, we need to get down to business.<br />
Ok,</p>
<p>as I have written on other Feminist Blogs I feel the need to write here.</p>
<p>As a feminist I AM NOT a one issue girl. You can read my comments on Women against Sara Palin if you would like clarification.Feminists began fighting for equal pay for equal work (which we STILL do not have) and Abortion rights. I need to set the record straight.</p>
<p>Those of you who think Roe v Wade will be overturned are swallowing the Dem bull. It simply will not happen. If this election for you is simply about a prochoice candidate, you are throwing away your vote. They need your vote to win and are now scampering to get it.</p>
<p>The Dem should have picked Clinton. It will be 8 years before they get another chance to pick a woman. NO MAN will support women like women will!!</p>
<p>WAKE UP SISTERS there is only 1 ticket that actually had the guts to put a women on the ticket and that is the one we MUST support. THIS IS OUR SHOT.</p>
<p>McCain will hand over to A WOMAN! Do you really think a MAN from Chicago really cares about equal pay and power for women? What does he pay his male staffers compared to the females (about $10,000 more a year, but McCain pays females on his staff MORE than the men!). Obama had the chance to put a women on the ticket and did not.</p>
<p>The Dems PASSED OVER a more qualified women for a MAN! What does that tell you? So them dems throw us a bone by supporting abortion right. THIS IS NOT ENOUGH! WE NEED REAL POWER!</p>
<p>Join with me sisters, support EVERY powerful women who is running. When we win the feminist war, we can argue about the spoils later. WE NEED THE POWER FIRST!!!</p>
<p>As for the rape kits, this is a standard charge for ALL HOSPITALS to insurance companies. THIS IS WRITTEN OFF FOR THOSE WITHOUT INSURANCE! This is a non-issue and a farce.</p>
<p>Not supporting Palin is the BIGGEST mistake a feminist can make!</p>
<p>I was going to vote for Clinton…but the choice is clear…VOTE FOR THE WOMAN!</p>
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		<title>By: Okay. I&#8217;m Going to Take a Deep Breath, and . . . Palin. &#171; Accismus</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/09/14/looking-at-sarah-somehow-seeing-condi/#comment-203444</link>
		<dc:creator>Okay. I&#8217;m Going to Take a Deep Breath, and . . . Palin. &#171; Accismus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 06:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Latoya at Feministe compares Palin to Rice: You can hate someone&#8217;s policies and still defend them from ad hominem arguments. I hate when people say that Condoleezza Rice is a sellout and that she isn&#8217;t black. That&#8217;s a ridiculous assertion to make. However, that does not make Condoleezza Rice a civil rights leader just because she is black and in a position of power. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Latoya at Feministe compares Palin to Rice: You can hate someone&#8217;s policies and still defend them from ad hominem arguments. I hate when people say that Condoleezza Rice is a sellout and that she isn&#8217;t black. That&#8217;s a ridiculous assertion to make. However, that does not make Condoleezza Rice a civil rights leader just because she is black and in a position of power. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Looking at Sarah, Somehow Seeing Condi&#8221; by LaToya Peterson - Majority Post</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/09/14/looking-at-sarah-somehow-seeing-condi/#comment-203275</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;Looking at Sarah, Somehow Seeing Condi&#8221; by LaToya Peterson - Majority Post</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Voices participants, wrote this think piece on Palin &amp; Rice. It was originally published on Feministe, but also appeared on Peterson&#8217;s blog Racialicious.  &#160;  You might also enjoy...    [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Voices participants, wrote this think piece on Palin &#38; Rice. It was originally published on Feministe, but also appeared on Peterson&#8217;s blog Racialicious.  &nbsp;  You might also enjoy&#8230;    [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DMcD</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/09/14/looking-at-sarah-somehow-seeing-condi/#comment-203067</link>
		<dc:creator>DMcD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In seeing all this evolve , I&#039;m thinking that Palin is more closely likened to &quot;Sanjia&quot; than, Barbie.

A preposterous &quot;No-talent&quot; freak of nature that , although popular , had absolutely no business being positioned in the public eye let alone , being thought of seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In seeing all this evolve , I&#8217;m thinking that Palin is more closely likened to &#8220;Sanjia&#8221; than, Barbie.</p>
<p>A preposterous &#8220;No-talent&#8221; freak of nature that , although popular , had absolutely no business being positioned in the public eye let alone , being thought of seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/09/14/looking-at-sarah-somehow-seeing-condi/#comment-203047</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another amazing piece for Feministe Latoya. I hope we can agree to disagree about Condoleeza Rice though. Her instrumentality in constructing and carrying out what has proved to be the worst foreign policy in the history of this country trumps all other considerations for me. The fact that she kept her job after 9/11 still makes me sick to my stomach. 

But you have crystallized something for me though in thinking about the role of racial and ethnic diversity in the Bush Administration. Fact is, W has chosen several conservatives of color for extremely high-ranking positions during his tenure (Rice, Colin Powell, Alberto Gonzales, John Yoo...) although this hasn&#039;t been much commented on, maybe because the pervasive image of the neo-conservative movement is white, rich and male.  However this political/religious philosophy obviously has a broader appeal. 

It seems to me that a hybrid political/evangelical Christian philosophy is what unites people as diverse as Bush and Rice and, by extension Pallin. Pallin&#039;s popularity is based on her appeal to politically conservative Evangelical Christian voters--of both sexes. So while gender is being foregrounded in the campaign her political philosophy is incidental to it. While I agree that saying Pallin isn&#039;t a woman is stupid and offensive, I think criticizing her for actively opposing feminist (and other progressive) values is important to opposing her campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another amazing piece for Feministe Latoya. I hope we can agree to disagree about Condoleeza Rice though. Her instrumentality in constructing and carrying out what has proved to be the worst foreign policy in the history of this country trumps all other considerations for me. The fact that she kept her job after 9/11 still makes me sick to my stomach. </p>
<p>But you have crystallized something for me though in thinking about the role of racial and ethnic diversity in the Bush Administration. Fact is, W has chosen several conservatives of color for extremely high-ranking positions during his tenure (Rice, Colin Powell, Alberto Gonzales, John Yoo&#8230;) although this hasn&#8217;t been much commented on, maybe because the pervasive image of the neo-conservative movement is white, rich and male.  However this political/religious philosophy obviously has a broader appeal. </p>
<p>It seems to me that a hybrid political/evangelical Christian philosophy is what unites people as diverse as Bush and Rice and, by extension Pallin. Pallin&#8217;s popularity is based on her appeal to politically conservative Evangelical Christian voters&#8211;of both sexes. So while gender is being foregrounded in the campaign her political philosophy is incidental to it. While I agree that saying Pallin isn&#8217;t a woman is stupid and offensive, I think criticizing her for actively opposing feminist (and other progressive) values is important to opposing her campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Noli Irritare Leones &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blogwatch</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/09/14/looking-at-sarah-somehow-seeing-condi/#comment-203005</link>
		<dc:creator>Noli Irritare Leones &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blogwatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Looking at Sarah, Somehow Seeing Condi. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: shah8</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/09/14/looking-at-sarah-somehow-seeing-condi/#comment-203003</link>
		<dc:creator>shah8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course the following opinion is from a guy, and material in this case.

I do not favor using sexism to attack other women.  However, I *am* in favor of means-testing proactive defenses against sexism.  Of course, that should be obvious, since I was pretty full-throated in such a stance with Hilary Clinton.

Anyways, as far as sexist attacks go, I am not in favor, however, I am most certain a Machiavellian (in the sense that means and ends have [necessary and sufficient] in between) when it comes to more extreme situations.  It is becoming incredibly obvious that Sarah Palin is a canidacy that is truly beyond the pale.  I just got done reading that she was one of those kooky abortion protesters at the big orange, and Pandagon just told me that she was full-throated in her attitude that Alaska government shouldn&#039;t hire black people.  

If you wanna hedge for Lester Maddox in drag (which I&#039;m not kidding--she does have many similarities to Lester Maddox besides the race thing), feel free, but I&#039;m of the opinion that a very wide suit of options should be considered in bringing her down.  Sexist attacks are bad in the long run, but damn...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course the following opinion is from a guy, and material in this case.</p>
<p>I do not favor using sexism to attack other women.  However, I *am* in favor of means-testing proactive defenses against sexism.  Of course, that should be obvious, since I was pretty full-throated in such a stance with Hilary Clinton.</p>
<p>Anyways, as far as sexist attacks go, I am not in favor, however, I am most certain a Machiavellian (in the sense that means and ends have [necessary and sufficient] in between) when it comes to more extreme situations.  It is becoming incredibly obvious that Sarah Palin is a canidacy that is truly beyond the pale.  I just got done reading that she was one of those kooky abortion protesters at the big orange, and Pandagon just told me that she was full-throated in her attitude that Alaska government shouldn&#8217;t hire black people.  </p>
<p>If you wanna hedge for Lester Maddox in drag (which I&#8217;m not kidding&#8211;she does have many similarities to Lester Maddox besides the race thing), feel free, but I&#8217;m of the opinion that a very wide suit of options should be considered in bringing her down.  Sexist attacks are bad in the long run, but damn&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: feministgal</title>
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		<dc:creator>feministgal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great great post. I too really enjoy watching Condi, and although i don&#039;t agree with her politics, am proud of what she&#039;s accomplished. When McCain chose Palin my automatic response was, &quot;if he was so bent on selecting a woman he should have chosen Rice!&quot; But then i realized, Condi would probably not want that job, she&#039;s so much better than that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great great post. I too really enjoy watching Condi, and although i don&#8217;t agree with her politics, am proud of what she&#8217;s accomplished. When McCain chose Palin my automatic response was, &#8220;if he was so bent on selecting a woman he should have chosen Rice!&#8221; But then i realized, Condi would probably not want that job, she&#8217;s so much better than that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: White Trash Academic</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/09/14/looking-at-sarah-somehow-seeing-condi/#comment-202983</link>
		<dc:creator>White Trash Academic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my colleagues sent me a joke that I think highlights a major difference between Palin and Rice. 

It was a conversation between a farmer and a doctor and the farmer called Palin a post turtle. The doctor was confused and the farmer explained that on occasion you drive by a post on the side of the road and there is a turtle on the post. You are then confused because a) you do not know how the turtle got up there b) it obviously did not get up there by itself and c) it has no idea what to do now that it is up there.

Also, I fail at punch lines so I am sure in the e-mail it was funnier....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my colleagues sent me a joke that I think highlights a major difference between Palin and Rice. </p>
<p>It was a conversation between a farmer and a doctor and the farmer called Palin a post turtle. The doctor was confused and the farmer explained that on occasion you drive by a post on the side of the road and there is a turtle on the post. You are then confused because a) you do not know how the turtle got up there b) it obviously did not get up there by itself and c) it has no idea what to do now that it is up there.</p>
<p>Also, I fail at punch lines so I am sure in the e-mail it was funnier&#8230;.</p>
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