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	<title>Comments on: Can we get Sam Seaborn back too, please?</title>
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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: Therese</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/09/21/can-we-get-sam-seaborn-back-too-please/#comment-204518</link>
		<dc:creator>Therese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let Obama be Obama? =O</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let Obama be Obama? =O</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/09/21/can-we-get-sam-seaborn-back-too-please/#comment-204232</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 05:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I miss West Wing so much.  It was such a sweet-bitter-sweet thing to be watching Bartlett and Bush at the same time (although I am still not over the time I switched channels in the middle of an episode, and the Sheen was a guest star on Two and a Half Men, and I flipped back and forth, back and forth, Bartlett, idiot in dressing gown, Bartlett, idito in dressing gown...)

I am also DAMN PROUD of being an elitist.  I think  it&#039;s something everyone should aspire to.  Drag people up, not down - I get that some people are proud of what/who/where they are because that&#039;s what they have.  But I&#039;d like areason, thankyouverymuch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I miss West Wing so much.  It was such a sweet-bitter-sweet thing to be watching Bartlett and Bush at the same time (although I am still not over the time I switched channels in the middle of an episode, and the Sheen was a guest star on Two and a Half Men, and I flipped back and forth, back and forth, Bartlett, idiot in dressing gown, Bartlett, idito in dressing gown&#8230;)</p>
<p>I am also DAMN PROUD of being an elitist.  I think  it&#8217;s something everyone should aspire to.  Drag people up, not down &#8211; I get that some people are proud of what/who/where they are because that&#8217;s what they have.  But I&#8217;d like areason, thankyouverymuch.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh Lemon Lyman. 

Donna for President. Charlie for VP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh Lemon Lyman. </p>
<p>Donna for President. Charlie for VP!</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/09/21/can-we-get-sam-seaborn-back-too-please/#comment-204173</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, ma&#039;am, I miss President Bartlett. I actually bawled my way through the series finale and still mourn every time I see a former West Winger in any other series. Matt Santos would&#039;ve made a wonderful president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, ma&#8217;am, I miss President Bartlett. I actually bawled my way through the series finale and still mourn every time I see a former West Winger in any other series. Matt Santos would&#8217;ve made a wonderful president.</p>
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		<title>By: Caro</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/09/21/can-we-get-sam-seaborn-back-too-please/#comment-204171</link>
		<dc:creator>Caro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely miss President Bartlet. And can we bring back Josh Lyman, too?! Mmmm, Josh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely miss President Bartlet. And can we bring back Josh Lyman, too?! Mmmm, Josh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne M</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/09/21/can-we-get-sam-seaborn-back-too-please/#comment-204163</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzanne M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Palin has not pushed for teaching creationism in Alaska’s schools. She has said that students should be allowed to “debate both sides” of the evolution question, but she also said creationism “doesn’t have to be part of the curriculum.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
There is no debate. Claiming that students should be allowed to &quot;debate both sides&quot; has the same effect as teaching creationism in schools, because there is no other side. The idea that creationism should even be mentioned in a science class is ridiculous. It legitimizes religion&#039;s usurpation of the role of science. So yes, she does favor allowing religion into science classes, and that&#039;s disgusting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Palin has not pushed for teaching creationism in Alaska’s schools. She has said that students should be allowed to “debate both sides” of the evolution question, but she also said creationism “doesn’t have to be part of the curriculum.”</p></blockquote>
<p>There is no debate. Claiming that students should be allowed to &#8220;debate both sides&#8221; has the same effect as teaching creationism in schools, because there is no other side. The idea that creationism should even be mentioned in a science class is ridiculous. It legitimizes religion&#8217;s usurpation of the role of science. So yes, she does favor allowing religion into science classes, and that&#8217;s disgusting.</p>
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		<title>By: prefer not to say</title>
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		<dc:creator>prefer not to say</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s not bad enough she thinks the planet Earth was created in six days 6,000 years ago complete with a man, a woman and a talking snake, she wants schools to teach the rest of our kids to deny geology, anthropology, archaeology and common sense too?&quot;

From Factcheck.org: 

# Palin has not pushed for teaching creationism in Alaska&#039;s schools. She has said that students should be allowed to &quot;debate both sides&quot; of the evolution question, but she also said creationism &quot;doesn&#039;t have to be part of the curriculum.&quot;

&quot;It’s not bad enough she’s forcing her own daughter into a loveless marriage to a teenage hood, she wants the rest of us to guide our daughters in that direction too?&quot;

We can&#039;t really know the extent to which Palin is &quot;forcing&quot; her daughter to do anything, nor the extent to which her daughter&#039;s marriage is &quot;loveless.&quot;

There&#039;s plenty wrong with Sarah Palin. We don&#039;t need to lapse into the untrue and unverifiable in order to hammer that home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s not bad enough she thinks the planet Earth was created in six days 6,000 years ago complete with a man, a woman and a talking snake, she wants schools to teach the rest of our kids to deny geology, anthropology, archaeology and common sense too?&#8221;</p>
<p>From Factcheck.org: </p>
<p># Palin has not pushed for teaching creationism in Alaska&#8217;s schools. She has said that students should be allowed to &#8220;debate both sides&#8221; of the evolution question, but she also said creationism &#8220;doesn&#8217;t have to be part of the curriculum.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;It’s not bad enough she’s forcing her own daughter into a loveless marriage to a teenage hood, she wants the rest of us to guide our daughters in that direction too?&#8221;</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t really know the extent to which Palin is &#8220;forcing&#8221; her daughter to do anything, nor the extent to which her daughter&#8217;s marriage is &#8220;loveless.&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s plenty wrong with Sarah Palin. We don&#8217;t need to lapse into the untrue and unverifiable in order to hammer that home.</p>
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		<title>By: SnowdropExplodes</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/09/21/can-we-get-sam-seaborn-back-too-please/#comment-204114</link>
		<dc:creator>SnowdropExplodes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my family have been watching the entire series on the DVDs, and commenting how closely the Santos campaign has been a mirror in some ways for the Obama campaign.

I also felt that there were so many storylines that could have been developed (I want to know what happened with CJ Cregg&#039;s road building in Africa, for example!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my family have been watching the entire series on the DVDs, and commenting how closely the Santos campaign has been a mirror in some ways for the Obama campaign.</p>
<p>I also felt that there were so many storylines that could have been developed (I want to know what happened with CJ Cregg&#8217;s road building in Africa, for example!)</p>
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		<title>By: BadKitty</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/09/21/can-we-get-sam-seaborn-back-too-please/#comment-204097</link>
		<dc:creator>BadKitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;Does anyone else miss President Bartlet?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Every day, Jill.  Every day.  My partner bought me the box set for my birthday.  We put in a couple of discs when we need to escape from political reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite=""><p>Does anyone else miss President Bartlet?</p></blockquote>
<p>Every day, Jill.  Every day.  My partner bought me the box set for my birthday.  We put in a couple of discs when we need to escape from political reality.</p>
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		<title>By: brady</title>
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		<dc:creator>brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m watching the entire series from start to finish during the months running up to the election.  I&#039;m on the second disk of season four right now, Bartlet&#039;s running for re-election.  I&#039;ll watch Santos (Jimmy Smits) take the oath of office the night before election day and hope it sends some good mojo out into the universe for BO, who was, after all, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/21/barackobama.uselections2008&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the inspiration for Santos&#039; character on West Wing&lt;/a&gt;.  

Love Srokin&#039;s take here, and hope Obama has given it a read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m watching the entire series from start to finish during the months running up to the election.  I&#8217;m on the second disk of season four right now, Bartlet&#8217;s running for re-election.  I&#8217;ll watch Santos (Jimmy Smits) take the oath of office the night before election day and hope it sends some good mojo out into the universe for BO, who was, after all, <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/21/barackobama.uselections2008" rel="nofollow">the inspiration for Santos&#8217; character on West Wing</a>.  </p>
<p>Love Srokin&#8217;s take here, and hope Obama has given it a read.</p>
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