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    Morningstar 10.14.2008 at 12:14 pm |

    i think adam is overlooking an alternative explanation; republicans frequently call strong democrats “socialists”, there isn’t anything racist with it. bill clinton, hillary, ted kennedy, etc all have been called socialists, it just goes back to playing up on the red fear.

    i haven’t read his entire article, just what you’ve posted here, but i think there’s other possibilities here.

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    ludovic 10.14.2008 at 12:43 pm |

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    Angela 10.14.2008 at 2:31 pm |

    What many on this blog are witnessing from the “majority” is not some new phenomena. I say “majority” because prejudice is no respecter of any party affiliation, religion, ideology or the like. I am neither a democrat nor republican, and, as a woman of color, I knew from the beginning that racial prejudice would rear its ugly head, not because of McCain/Palin/Obama, but in spite of them. In a sense, we colored folk aren’t disillusioned by it in any way. I have no hateful words for anyone and I am not confounded by the prejudice because I and my family have lived it all of lives. So, if I had a choice between racists being out in the open and exercising their first amendment rights as opposed to them plotting my demise in secret, I’d rather let them chant until they get tired or go hoarse.

    Because, the way to cure any prejudice is to introduce yourself to someone who is very different from you.

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    brainiac9 10.14.2008 at 3:24 pm |

    GAH. The whole “He’s a socialist!” thing has been driving me nuts for ages now. As it happens, “eek socialism!” is not a super-valid argument. Neither is “eek communism!” or “eek marxism!” – unless, much as is necessary for any other argument, it’s backed up with a certain amount of logic and/or evidence. So much for that.

    Unfortunately, using “eek socialism!” (or any variant thereof) as the ultimate trump card is not a phenomenon limited to the US, and nor is it limited in its use as a racist dog-whistle to the US. I’m still bitter that my previous member of parliament (thank God I moved) decided to block Canada’s attempts to give Nelson Mandela honourary citizenship based on his belief that Nelson Mandela “is a communist and a terrorist.” Considering his history of barely-concealed racism (like believing that Canada’s foreign aid should be used to “make them more like us”), I’m pretty convinced his comments make him part of a larger, wingnuttier picture.

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    Brian 10.14.2008 at 4:52 pm |

    I think “socialist”, “Marxist” and “communist” are misused as much as the terms “free market” or “capitalism”. All of those words have very particular meanings, but both sides of the political equation are guilty of not using the terms correctly.

    The Left has greatly erred when it discusses the “free market” ideology of the current Administration, or blames the current credit crisis on “capitalism” run amok. The Bush Administration has interfered more into the economy than the Clinton Administration.

    The Right greatly errs when it labels any government program generally as “socialist” or “communist”. As these items really go to the ownership of the means of production. In that regard, the current bailout under the Bush Administration is partly socialist in that the government will own shares of financial institutions.

    As a hated libertarian, I think Hayek gets it right when he dedicated The Road to Serfdom “[t]o the Socialists of All Parties”.

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    Ethan 10.14.2008 at 7:01 pm |

    One thing I think a lot of commentators have missed in jumping all over John Lewis: There’s an apt comparison there, not because McCain is sending the exact same message as Wallace, but that because he’s using the same tactics. As boldly racist as George Wallace was, the literal words of his speeches were never as inflammatory as their full meaning. Both men have been content to use coded rhetoric to whip up a crowd of supporters, then step back form the consequences when their supporters (who they may well view as ignorant yahoos) take things a few steps further.

    I think part of the reason it took McCain so long to start feebly arguing back with his more vicious crowds is that he simply didn’t see himself as responsible for their actions or beliefs. Obviously he can’t be held responsible for every one of his supporters, but I think he may have been surprised to find the media holding him accountable for tacitly supporting the terrorist/communist nonsense by letting it pass unchallenged.

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    Steve 10.14.2008 at 11:00 pm |

    Personally I do not see the Racism in this. I also think socialism can be a slippery term as all terms can be. What do you mean by socialism. George Bush may not be a leftist but he has as another poster put it ” fiddled with the economy”. Pure capatilism is good for raising capital just as the name implies but it also is an indiscriminate bulldozer of those unable to get out of the way for whatever reason. Any regulation is not economically sound in the large picture from a purely cold economic perspective. We regulate not for economic reasons but social ones. Any regulation is a small (albeit infintesimal) step towards socialistic thinking. We regulate to spare people who cant get out of the way, and we pay a price for doing so. This is well accepted by almost all economists. The sticking point is this….what will we accept and pay gladly and what is too high a price to pay. What it comes down to is how much do you care and what price is too high for that caring.

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