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	<title>Comments on: John McCain&#8217;s Plan for Women&#8217;s Health Care</title>
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		<title>By: Rori Raye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rori Raye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 05:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Koran, I am always so shocked, shaken to my core by humankind&#039;s indecency.  The way we treat animals, the way we treat our food sources, the way we treat the ill, the elderly, the damaged, the wounded...and yet we are so self-righteous and opinionated.  As though we can BE good just by saying we are.  We women - though so many of us are just as responsible as men for the negligence of compassion and right-thinking across the board while still giving lip-service to it - hold the keys to life, to consciousness, to birth and rebirth.  And as soon as we are able to wake up en mass and take this power we so already HAVE, and stand up for ourselves as the keepers of our own bodies and the keepers of the beings we can create inside us, and enforce our privacy and expand decency and equality and compassion and indifference to human and animal differences throughout our world - things will change.  I believe the tide is generational, and that it&#039;s about to turn.  Thank you for the brilliant legal explanations - very helpful and eye-opening. Rori</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Koran, I am always so shocked, shaken to my core by humankind&#8217;s indecency.  The way we treat animals, the way we treat our food sources, the way we treat the ill, the elderly, the damaged, the wounded&#8230;and yet we are so self-righteous and opinionated.  As though we can BE good just by saying we are.  We women &#8211; though so many of us are just as responsible as men for the negligence of compassion and right-thinking across the board while still giving lip-service to it &#8211; hold the keys to life, to consciousness, to birth and rebirth.  And as soon as we are able to wake up en mass and take this power we so already HAVE, and stand up for ourselves as the keepers of our own bodies and the keepers of the beings we can create inside us, and enforce our privacy and expand decency and equality and compassion and indifference to human and animal differences throughout our world &#8211; things will change.  I believe the tide is generational, and that it&#8217;s about to turn.  Thank you for the brilliant legal explanations &#8211; very helpful and eye-opening. Rori</p>
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		<title>By: ACG</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/10/16/john-mccains-plan-for-womens-health-care/#comment-207012</link>
		<dc:creator>ACG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Yet neither the language nor the history of the Ninth Amendment offers any hints as to the nature of the rights it was designed to protect.&lt;/i&gt;

Thus the entire point of the Ninth Amendment. Well grasped.

9A was included in the Bill of Rights as assurance that the government wouldn&#039;t try to infringe on the people&#039;s unenumerated rights with the excuse, &quot;Well, the Constitution doesn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;say&lt;/i&gt; you have the right to do that.&quot; 9A is the framers&#039; way of saying that the Constitution doesn&#039;t grant rights to the government but, conversely, &lt;i&gt;limits&lt;/i&gt; the government to the rights listed. All other rights are reserved for the people until someone can adequately convince the legislature that there&#039;s a good reason to take them away.

So, yeah, until Congress passes an amendment saying, &quot;The government reserves the right to take up residence in ACG&#039;s uterus and regulate all intercervical traffic,&quot; the Ninth Amendment protects my right to not have them in there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Yet neither the language nor the history of the Ninth Amendment offers any hints as to the nature of the rights it was designed to protect.</i></p>
<p>Thus the entire point of the Ninth Amendment. Well grasped.</p>
<p>9A was included in the Bill of Rights as assurance that the government wouldn&#8217;t try to infringe on the people&#8217;s unenumerated rights with the excuse, &#8220;Well, the Constitution doesn&#8217;t <i>say</i> you have the right to do that.&#8221; 9A is the framers&#8217; way of saying that the Constitution doesn&#8217;t grant rights to the government but, conversely, <i>limits</i> the government to the rights listed. All other rights are reserved for the people until someone can adequately convince the legislature that there&#8217;s a good reason to take them away.</p>
<p>So, yeah, until Congress passes an amendment saying, &#8220;The government reserves the right to take up residence in ACG&#8217;s uterus and regulate all intercervical traffic,&#8221; the Ninth Amendment protects my right to not have them in there.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/10/16/john-mccains-plan-for-womens-health-care/#comment-207008</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angela, no, the Ninth Amendment doesn&#039;t specify which unspecified rights it protects. That&#039;s kind of the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angela, no, the Ninth Amendment doesn&#8217;t specify which unspecified rights it protects. That&#8217;s kind of the point.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/10/16/john-mccains-plan-for-womens-health-care/#comment-207003</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jill, I reviewed the Gonzales v. Raich case and the stance the justices had (IMO) was not ideological at all. Majority opinion (liberal and moderate) in that case was delivered by Stevens and joined by Kennedy, Souter, Ginsburg, and Breyer. Justice Scalia&#039;s issued a separate concurrence. The dissenting opinions were delivered by O&#039;Connor (liberal), who was joined by Rehnquist (Moderate) and partially joined by Thomas. Justice Thomas also wrote a separate dissent.

It was about the law and nothing more. As for William Douglas, he still interpreted the law, regardless of his personal views. I think Roe vs. Wade is a bad law (not for religious reasons, but because is was poorly written to begin with), but that does not mean I’m in favor of it being overturned either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jill, I reviewed the Gonzales v. Raich case and the stance the justices had (IMO) was not ideological at all. Majority opinion (liberal and moderate) in that case was delivered by Stevens and joined by Kennedy, Souter, Ginsburg, and Breyer. Justice Scalia&#8217;s issued a separate concurrence. The dissenting opinions were delivered by O&#8217;Connor (liberal), who was joined by Rehnquist (Moderate) and partially joined by Thomas. Justice Thomas also wrote a separate dissent.</p>
<p>It was about the law and nothing more. As for William Douglas, he still interpreted the law, regardless of his personal views. I think Roe vs. Wade is a bad law (not for religious reasons, but because is was poorly written to begin with), but that does not mean I’m in favor of it being overturned either.</p>
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		<title>By: ElleBeMe</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/10/16/john-mccains-plan-for-womens-health-care/#comment-207001</link>
		<dc:creator>ElleBeMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And how do you separate ideology from interpretation?&quot;

I would sure like to know...

Just for examples sake:

YOu have an Holocaust historian who uses facts and data from that time to conclude the Holocaust did happen and was a human tragedy.

You have a Holocaust revisionist historian as well who uses the same facts, but deduces that the Holocaust in fact didn&#039;t happen, and was not a human tragedy, but rather a lie.

In both cases, the same facts are used, but different conclusions are drawn based upon their interpretations and ideologies.

In the case of the SCOTUS, it is no different.  The Justices may have an exemplary knowledge of the law and the constitution - but they are chosen on how they interpret that law to further promote or uphold an agenda.  You *cannot* separate ideology and interpretation if working within the same constructs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And how do you separate ideology from interpretation?&#8221;</p>
<p>I would sure like to know&#8230;</p>
<p>Just for examples sake:</p>
<p>YOu have an Holocaust historian who uses facts and data from that time to conclude the Holocaust did happen and was a human tragedy.</p>
<p>You have a Holocaust revisionist historian as well who uses the same facts, but deduces that the Holocaust in fact didn&#8217;t happen, and was not a human tragedy, but rather a lie.</p>
<p>In both cases, the same facts are used, but different conclusions are drawn based upon their interpretations and ideologies.</p>
<p>In the case of the SCOTUS, it is no different.  The Justices may have an exemplary knowledge of the law and the constitution &#8211; but they are chosen on how they interpret that law to further promote or uphold an agenda.  You *cannot* separate ideology and interpretation if working within the same constructs!</p>
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		<title>By: Koren</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/10/16/john-mccains-plan-for-womens-health-care/#comment-207000</link>
		<dc:creator>Koren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angela . . .

1.  Barack is not a &quot;little&quot; lawyer -- he&#039;s a lawyer and Con Law Scholar.

2. SCOTUS has long recognized that there exists an &quot;implied&quot; right to privacy  Thus the Constitution implicitly protects our right to privacy.  This implication arises from a review of our enumerated/fundamental rights as outlined in the following amendments: 1A, 2A, 4A, 5A.  Since SCOTUS has recognized this right, they would need to now denounce it in order for the right to go away.  

3.  In reaching this conclusion and many others, I believe, as many other lawyers and jurists do, that the justices were doing their job-as delegated to them via the Framers- in interpreting the constitution.   a decision needs to be made that the USC hasn&#039;t specifically dicussed, it is left to interpretation.  

4.  The Constitution is a living document.  The framers weren&#039;t capable of predicting the future and there are many ambiguities.  The Constitution is given life by the scholars and jurists that address modern questions arising from the constition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angela . . .</p>
<p>1.  Barack is not a &#8220;little&#8221; lawyer &#8212; he&#8217;s a lawyer and Con Law Scholar.</p>
<p>2. SCOTUS has long recognized that there exists an &#8220;implied&#8221; right to privacy  Thus the Constitution implicitly protects our right to privacy.  This implication arises from a review of our enumerated/fundamental rights as outlined in the following amendments: 1A, 2A, 4A, 5A.  Since SCOTUS has recognized this right, they would need to now denounce it in order for the right to go away.  </p>
<p>3.  In reaching this conclusion and many others, I believe, as many other lawyers and jurists do, that the justices were doing their job-as delegated to them via the Framers- in interpreting the constitution.   a decision needs to be made that the USC hasn&#8217;t specifically dicussed, it is left to interpretation.  </p>
<p>4.  The Constitution is a living document.  The framers weren&#8217;t capable of predicting the future and there are many ambiguities.  The Constitution is given life by the scholars and jurists that address modern questions arising from the constition.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/10/16/john-mccains-plan-for-womens-health-care/#comment-206998</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cara, the Ninth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution is somewhat of an enigma. It provides that the naming of certain rights in the Constitution does not take away from the people rights that are not named. Yet neither the language nor the history of the Ninth Amendment offers any hints as to the nature of the rights it was designed to protect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cara, the Ninth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution is somewhat of an enigma. It provides that the naming of certain rights in the Constitution does not take away from the people rights that are not named. Yet neither the language nor the history of the Ninth Amendment offers any hints as to the nature of the rights it was designed to protect.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angela, have you read Raich? How do you explain the stance of most of the otherwise conservative, &quot;state&#039;s rights&quot; justices? How do you explain the fact that justices -- like Wililam O. Douglas -- have come out years after decisions and said that they believe they were wrong about certain things? 

And how do you separate ideology from interpretation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angela, have you read Raich? How do you explain the stance of most of the otherwise conservative, &#8220;state&#8217;s rights&#8221; justices? How do you explain the fact that justices &#8212; like Wililam O. Douglas &#8212; have come out years after decisions and said that they believe they were wrong about certain things? </p>
<p>And how do you separate ideology from interpretation?</p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/10/16/john-mccains-plan-for-womens-health-care/#comment-206994</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jill, ElleBeMe, 

Yes, I do believe that. Also Elle, you are correct to say a lot of folks are biased, however, when the justices hand down different opinions or dissents regarding a court decision, they speak as one.

Aproustian, it’s not about religion, it’s about interpretation. For the justices, it’s a matter of keeping the overall scope of the Constitution’s foundation in its truest form. The split you speak of comes from whether or not the Constitution’s focus should change to meet the current times or do they keep it as is.

In other words: is the Constitution considered a living or dead document?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jill, ElleBeMe, </p>
<p>Yes, I do believe that. Also Elle, you are correct to say a lot of folks are biased, however, when the justices hand down different opinions or dissents regarding a court decision, they speak as one.</p>
<p>Aproustian, it’s not about religion, it’s about interpretation. For the justices, it’s a matter of keeping the overall scope of the Constitution’s foundation in its truest form. The split you speak of comes from whether or not the Constitution’s focus should change to meet the current times or do they keep it as is.</p>
<p>In other words: is the Constitution considered a living or dead document?</p>
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		<title>By: Cara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The “fundamental right” to privacy is not a part of the Constitution.&lt;/i&gt;

Very good, the word &quot;privacy&quot; is not in there.  However, the issue of privacy is discussed in numerous amendments and many of us believe that the various &lt;i&gt;specific&lt;/i&gt; kind of privacy protected under the Constitution -- privacy from unwarranted government search and seizure, privacy of religion, privacy from forced housing of troops, etc. -- points to an overall understanding that privacy is indeed a right.  Also, see the 9th amendment -- the Constitution explicitly says that just because a certain word doesn&#039;t appear in it, that doesn&#039;t mean the &lt;i&gt;fundamental right&lt;/i&gt; in question does not exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The “fundamental right” to privacy is not a part of the Constitution.</i></p>
<p>Very good, the word &#8220;privacy&#8221; is not in there.  However, the issue of privacy is discussed in numerous amendments and many of us believe that the various <i>specific</i> kind of privacy protected under the Constitution &#8212; privacy from unwarranted government search and seizure, privacy of religion, privacy from forced housing of troops, etc. &#8212; points to an overall understanding that privacy is indeed a right.  Also, see the 9th amendment &#8212; the Constitution explicitly says that just because a certain word doesn&#8217;t appear in it, that doesn&#8217;t mean the <i>fundamental right</i> in question does not exist.</p>
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