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  1. Aura KitKatting
    Aura KitKatting October 20, 2008 at 2:38 pm |

    I don’t know what to think of this. Yes on one hand – it does seem like a threat, especially considering the source. However more than anything I think it’s vocalizing what a lot of us ARE concerned about. – Maybe by making this more of an obvious issue and less of the elephant in the room, Obama will be safer.

    Let’s hope, anyway.

  2. PunditMom
    PunditMom October 20, 2008 at 2:53 pm |

    I hate to say it, but I’m not surprised anymore at this level of hate. The question is — what do we do about it?

  3. Cate
    Cate October 20, 2008 at 2:58 pm |

    It really does look like a threat, I’m surprised at PostSecret for publishing it.

  4. marilove
    marilove October 20, 2008 at 3:02 pm |

    What does it say? Blogspot is blocked here at work :(

  5. SunlessNick
    SunlessNick October 20, 2008 at 3:02 pm |

    I see it as a threat too. It’s the red X’s that leave me unable to consider it a warning or awareness-raiser.

  6. Cara
    Cara October 20, 2008 at 3:07 pm |

    Marilove —

    Photographs of JFK, MLK, Malcolm X and Bobby Kennedy, with a red X over each image. To the right is a larger photograph of Obama with the words “It’s only a matter of time . . .”

  7. SJ
    SJ October 20, 2008 at 3:21 pm |

    Fuck NO. I refuse to accept this. This is so wrong. I am heartbroken that this is how people choose to deal with public figures they don’t agree with. Even my liberal friends are kind of whispering to me that they are worried about this.

    I have faith. I think he can lead this country. I don’t think he will be intimated. And people who don’t fit the cookie cutter politician mold will keep on coming.

  8. kaje
    kaje October 20, 2008 at 4:00 pm |

    “It’s just a ride. But we always kill those good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? And let the demons run amok. Jesus, murdered; Martin Luther King, murdered; Malcolm X, murdered; Gandhi, murdered; John Lennon, murdered; Reagan … wounded.” – Bill Hicks

  9. marilove
    marilove October 20, 2008 at 4:12 pm |

    Cara … yeah, sounds more like a threat. Maybe not an active threat, but a threat nonetheless (I’m reading it as, “someone will do it … watch out, because someone will, and I’ll be glad they did!” more than “I’m going to do it!”).

    Still, I have full confidence in our secret service. If you do a little googling, you’ll see that there have been quite a few assassination attempts on presidents and other political figures. I think Clinton got one or two, himself. Honestly, how many people, in the US and outside the US, want Bush dead? Plenty, I’m sure, and with many passionate reasons. He’s still here.

    Our secret service is TOUGH. I honestly don’t think Obama will be assassinated.

  10. Cara
    Cara October 20, 2008 at 4:18 pm |

    Good point, Marilove; to reference Kaje’s comment, the reason that Lennon, Ghandi, King, Jesus and Malcolm X were so easy to murder is precisely because they didn’t have that kind of security detail. And even then, the last of those murders was John’s in 1980. I’m hoping that means the world is getting better and assassination attempts getting more difficult to pull off, not that we’re somehow due for one.

  11. Aura KitKatting
    Aura KitKatting October 20, 2008 at 4:18 pm |

    You know, the more I think about this, the more I’m reminded of that other PostSecret card a long while back from someone that admitted they had been involved in the construction of concentration camps in the U.S. … and I just keep thinking – I mean what if there really is some giant conspiracy?? – I really, really want to believe the Secret Service will keep him safe…. but “what if…” just keeps circling in my mind.

    Man this post-card has me depressed now. =( Maybe that’s the point though … to make the Liberal base that is supporting him and banding together less sure of ourselves….??!

  12. Angel H.
    Angel H. October 20, 2008 at 4:29 pm |

    Personally, I see it more as a possible reality.

    Let’s face it: Black leaders don’t last very long in this country.

  13. Angela
    Angela October 20, 2008 at 4:45 pm |

    Cara, Benazir Bhutto was just assassinated late last year. So the notion of “assassinations proving more difficult to pull off” is only a myth. Today’s would-be assassins are far more sophisticated and have the benefit of technology at their disposal.

  14. Angela
    Angela October 20, 2008 at 4:49 pm |

    If I were any of you, I wouldn’t get too worked up over an image. Common sense tells me that if Obama were truly a political threat to anyone, he would have been taken out a long time ago. You don’t need a presidential election as a motive.

  15. marilove
    marilove October 20, 2008 at 4:57 pm |

    Benazir Bhutto was also not assassinated in the U.S., nor did she have the benefit of the secret service, which also has technology at their disposal, and quite a bit of money, too, more money and connections than the average assassin, I’d imagine.

  16. Amerith
    Amerith October 20, 2008 at 4:59 pm |

    I’m sure that Obama knows that assassination is a risk. He’s still willing to face that risk and run for president. He must trust that the secret service will keep him safe. There isn’t much we can do except hope that his trust in them is valid.

  17. Natalia
    Natalia October 20, 2008 at 5:04 pm |

    *shudder*

  18. Angel H.
    Angel H. October 20, 2008 at 5:05 pm |

    Common sense tells me that if Obama were truly a political threat to anyone, he would have been taken out a long time ago.

    Where have you been?

    Obama received Secret Service protection 6 months before the other candidates because of the racist death threat he’d received. CBS.com had to close down their message boards because trolls littered them with racist, anti-Obama speech. And most recently, this, this, and this.

  19. Angel H.
    Angel H. October 20, 2008 at 5:06 pm |

    threat –> threats

  20. ol cranky
    ol cranky October 20, 2008 at 5:27 pm |

    what is post secret and where the hell did this post card originate from?

    even if it isn’t a direct threat, it appears as something that the person who created and distributed the card wants to use to encourage/incite someone else into acting on it.

  21. Bene
    Bene October 20, 2008 at 5:54 pm |

    If it’s about that person’s fear of this happening, then it sure as heck wasn’t executed well by the creator. I try not to be a conspiracy theorist, but something in my gut about this is off.

  22. Misspelled
    Misspelled October 20, 2008 at 6:24 pm |

    Hate mail is common, obviously, and even death threats (although I’m sure Obama’s gotten more than the typical share) — but there have already been honest-to-God plots against him. These nice young men with the rifles, walkie-talkies and bulletproof vest made a statement to police admitting as much.

    This is part of the reason I was so pissed at McCain’s answers at the last debate on the subject of the crazy shit his supporters have said and whether he should have denounced it. There is real danger of Obama or a member of his family losing their health or life to these Nazi nutbags. You don’t fuck around with that. And Obama of course had to smile and stay casual when he brought it up, because God forbid he should come across as “whiny” about the fact that physical violence is being threatened against him, while McCain gets to sit there and talk about how it cut him deep to be told by John Lewis that gee, maybe he bears some responsibility for making sure that his rallies don’t turn into Klan meetings and that people aren’t voting for him because he’s an old conservative white man and Obama is either a fundamentalist Muslim foreigner or a sullen black teenager.

    It ought to be unthinkable in this country for someone in a crowd to yell, “Kill him!” about a candidate’s black opponent in the presence of that candidate and not get a reaction. It ought to be a political disaster. The public should be appalled, and the media should be all over it, and McCain/Palin should have to scramble like rats to decry it and to dissociate themselves and their candidacy from any trace of that attitude. But no, it’s no big deal, in fact it’s being blown way out of proportion, and after all Obama is a friend of terrorists and a socialist and possibly hates America, and if there’s a death threat here or an assassination plot there, shame on him for bringing it up, because the people who attend McCain’s rallies are WWII veterans, many of them! And did we mention that Obama hates America?

  23. preying mantis
    preying mantis October 20, 2008 at 6:38 pm |

    Yet again I wish the PostSecret guy would remove the post office routing stickers when they cover part of the text. I couldn’t even tell what it said until there was an email response to it posted underneath the card.

    For those of you asking what PostSecret is: PostSecret Blog

    My initial response wasn’t that it sounded like a threat, though that’s mostly because I’ve heard similar sentiments from my mother. There are a lot of people who still remember the profound disillusionment that came with those assassinations, like it was watching a door close on the dream of peace and freedom and equality. Of course, on the flip side, the people who were on the other side of the barricades then are finding it harder to keep the door closed now, and assassination worked then, so….

  24. SoE
    SoE October 20, 2008 at 6:55 pm |

    PostSecret is an ongoing community art project where people mail in their secrets anonymously on one side of a postcard.
    That’s the description from their website. And they ran a comment next to the pic:

    That is my greatest fear. I hope that you’re fearing it too, and that that’s a concern you wrote about, and not a threat…

    I didn’t really see it as a thread but more like a bitter reminder.

  25. Rockit
    Rockit October 20, 2008 at 7:13 pm |

    Personally, I saw it as a creative manifestation of dread, didn’t even click on it being a threat until I read the post and comments.

  26. Pinko Punko
    Pinko Punko October 20, 2008 at 8:03 pm |

    I don’t see it as a threat. I see it as someone afraid that yet another progressive icon will be cut down. In terms of reporting, the whole point of Post Secret is people admitting anonymous things they are afraid to admit. I will of course criticize the artist for not making their point more clear, but these are real people usually (mostly?) that send things in to PS, not professional artists or designers. I really see the opposite of a threat. I see a complete fear of assassination.

  27. SnowdropExplodes
    SnowdropExplodes October 20, 2008 at 8:17 pm |

    It looks like a threat because the red crosses make it look like a hit-list rather than a memorial. It seems to be saying, “We’ve got our eye on you…” and that’s scary.

  28. whatsername
    whatsername October 20, 2008 at 8:25 pm |

    I didn’t see it as a threat either, but as worry. The red x’s do indeed stand out but they could as easily be saying “yay” as “woe” through their standing out. I took it as “woe”. Given this country’s history with assassination I don’t think it’s an illegitimate worry.

  29. luzzleanne
    luzzleanne October 20, 2008 at 9:20 pm |

    There’s far too much of this terrifying shit out there. I’ve had to avoid most facebook apps for the past couple of months because I keep seeing bumperstickers that say things like “Forget drugs: Obama is the only dope that needs to be shot.” I ended up reporting that one but I’m sure it and another hundred like it have popped up again.

    This election’s released an extreme amount of usually hidden nastiness. We definately need the change and may even be helped by getting this crap out into the open, but damn it if it doesn’t scare me.

  30. SophiaPriskilla
    SophiaPriskilla October 20, 2008 at 9:30 pm |

    I’m reading it as a threat too – the red X’s combined with the “matter of time” don’t fit with an expression of fear. Things like this in an election cycle generally have Secret Service swarming the source in no time. (And rightly so, in this case.) PostSecret is, however, likely in miles over its head. Many, many miles – which they should have known, and which is why they should have reported it immediately. (If they had reported it, I’m sure they would have been told not to post it.)

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  32. Aish
    Aish October 20, 2008 at 10:03 pm |

    I don’t know… I read it first off as a fear, as in, “I’m afraid it’s only a matter of time because a lot influential, controversial leaders got picked off eventually and it’s screwed up.” I can see the threat in it as well, but I’m not sure.

  33. MacBean
    MacBean October 20, 2008 at 11:09 pm |

    Most of the “secrets” on PostSecret aren’t actually secrets but simple commentary. Seriously, every week on the LiveJournal feed, the comments are full of people bitching “This isn’t a secret!” I think this card is another case of that. It doesn’t feel like a threat to me, or someone saying that their secret is that they want to assassinate Obama. I see it as someone expressing worry. And I think anyone who hasn’t thought about it and isn’t a little worried is just plain foolish.

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  35. Lynn Gazis-Sax
    Lynn Gazis-Sax October 21, 2008 at 3:21 pm |

    Benazir Bhutto, when she was assassinated, was the opposition candidate in a country where the government wasn’t particularly going out of its way to protect her. Obama, in contrast, got early Secret Service protection, and in all probability will soon be President – I trust the Secret Service to do a better job of protecting him than anyone did of protecting Bhutto.

  36. James
    James October 24, 2008 at 4:13 pm |

    this is pretty pathetic. I was reading another news letter where a bear was shot, and Obama yard signs were stuck to the carcass….

    it is not a new thing this race and ignorance of hatred – after all – the USA is still the only nation in the world that legislates protection for hate crimes, and hate crime related propaganda, and the freedom of speech toward hatred.

    so as Americans, you all really shouldn’t be surprised. Your constitution protects the right to hate and kill based upon racism.

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