Comments on: “Never Necessary” http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/10/28/never-necessary/ In defense of the sanctimonious women's studies set. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:12:24 +0000 hourly 1 By: Being Amber Rhea » Blog Archive » links for 2008-10-30 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/10/28/never-necessary/#comment-208517 Being Amber Rhea » Blog Archive » links for 2008-10-30 Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:14:13 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=9269#comment-208517 [...] Feministe » “Never Necessary” “Chris is right — sometimes, you don’t know until you know. The health issues we face in our lives are complex. Pregnancy is not a simple process, and the fact that women don’t regularly die from it is a fairly modern phenomenon (and certainly not the case in much of the world). The human body is not a simple machine; that’s something that we recognize in every other area of health care. Yet when it comes to reproductive health, anti-choice activists allow for no such complexity, and are happy to limit the care that women can receive.” (tags: health healthcare abortion reproductivejustice) [...] [...] Feministe » “Never Necessary” “Chris is right — sometimes, you don’t know until you know. The health issues we face in our lives are complex. Pregnancy is not a simple process, and the fact that women don’t regularly die from it is a fairly modern phenomenon (and certainly not the case in much of the world). The human body is not a simple machine; that’s something that we recognize in every other area of health care. Yet when it comes to reproductive health, anti-choice activists allow for no such complexity, and are happy to limit the care that women can receive.” (tags: health healthcare abortion reproductivejustice) [...]

]]> By: Thursday Blogwhoring « random babble… http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/10/28/never-necessary/#comment-208509 Thursday Blogwhoring « random babble… Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:10:16 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=9269#comment-208509 [...] article at NPR on the fight against South Dakota’s abortion ban.  Hearing the words “never necessary” makes me want to rip my hair out.  Who gets to decide what is or isn’t necessary for [...] [...] article at NPR on the fight against South Dakota’s abortion ban.  Hearing the words “never necessary” makes me want to rip my hair out.  Who gets to decide what is or isn’t necessary for [...]

]]> By: Dori http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/10/28/never-necessary/#comment-208421 Dori Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:31:30 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=9269#comment-208421 I had an argument like this with a pro-forced-birther once about ectopic pregnancies, where he claimed that abortion was totally wrong even in these cases and that it was morally preferable to just remove the fallopian tube with the "baby" still inside. The fact that this would kill the "baby" was only an "unfortunate consequence" due to "inadequate medical technology" with which to sustain its life. It was only important to him that the immoral abortion NEVER take place. It all makes me want to scream. I had an argument like this with a pro-forced-birther once about ectopic pregnancies, where he claimed that abortion was totally wrong even in these cases and that it was morally preferable to just remove the fallopian tube with the “baby” still inside. The fact that this would kill the “baby” was only an “unfortunate consequence” due to “inadequate medical technology” with which to sustain its life. It was only important to him that the immoral abortion NEVER take place.

It all makes me want to scream.

]]> By: And there’s no Santa Claus, either. « Superlative In All Things http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/10/28/never-necessary/#comment-208368 And there’s no Santa Claus, either. « Superlative In All Things Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:07:56 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=9269#comment-208368 [...] And there’s no Santa Claus, either. October 29, 2008 Jill has a post up at Feministe about the proposed South Dakota abortion ban.  She highlights a quote from a spokesperson for an anti-choice group who is responding to one [...] [...] And there’s no Santa Claus, either. October 29, 2008 Jill has a post up at Feministe about the proposed South Dakota abortion ban.  She highlights a quote from a spokesperson for an anti-choice group who is responding to one [...]

]]> By: Being Amber Rhea » Blog Archive » links for 2008-10-29 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/10/28/never-necessary/#comment-208367 Being Amber Rhea » Blog Archive » links for 2008-10-29 Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:30:31 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=9269#comment-208367 [...] Feministe » "Never Necessary" "Chris is right — sometimes, you don't know until you know. The health issues we face in our lives are complex. Pregnancy is not a simple process, and the fact that women don’t regularly die from it is a fairly modern phenomenon (and certainly not the case in much of the world). The human body is not a simple machine; that’s something that we recognize in every other area of health care. Yet when it comes to reproductive health, anti-choice activists allow for no such complexity, and are happy to limit the care that women can receive." (tags: health healthcare abortion reproductivejustice) [...] [...] Feministe » "Never Necessary" "Chris is right — sometimes, you don't know until you know. The health issues we face in our lives are complex. Pregnancy is not a simple process, and the fact that women don’t regularly die from it is a fairly modern phenomenon (and certainly not the case in much of the world). The human body is not a simple machine; that’s something that we recognize in every other area of health care. Yet when it comes to reproductive health, anti-choice activists allow for no such complexity, and are happy to limit the care that women can receive." (tags: health healthcare abortion reproductivejustice) [...]

]]> By: Mandy V http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/10/28/never-necessary/#comment-208350 Mandy V Wed, 29 Oct 2008 06:58:16 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=9269#comment-208350 This reminds me of a legal battle here in India that got a lot of national (meaning in India) press this summer. Except that <a href="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/I_feel_fight_was_useless_Niketa_Mehta/articleshow/3325144.cms" rel="nofollow">Niketa and Haresh Mehta</a> weren't so lucky with the India courts, though the child ended up being <a href="http://www.telegraphindia.com/1080815/jsp/frontpage/story_9697613.jsp" rel="nofollow">stillborn</a>. What is interesting to me is that abortion is framed in a completely different way in India than in the States, though it is no less controversial. Here the focus is not about whether abortion is right or wrong, but rather how <a href="http://www.global-sisterhood-network.org/content/view/2112/59/" rel="nofollow">sex-selective abortion</a> is wrong, and there are laws against it. In fact, it is illegal in India for doctors to reveal the sex of the child and even the Prime Minister has spoken out against sex-selective abortions. This reminds me of a legal battle here in India that got a lot of national (meaning in India) press this summer. Except that Niketa and Haresh Mehta weren’t so lucky with the India courts, though the child ended up being stillborn. What is interesting to me is that abortion is framed in a completely different way in India than in the States, though it is no less controversial. Here the focus is not about whether abortion is right or wrong, but rather how sex-selective abortion is wrong, and there are laws against it. In fact, it is illegal in India for doctors to reveal the sex of the child and even the Prime Minister has spoken out against sex-selective abortions.

]]> By: Lauren O http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/10/28/never-necessary/#comment-208332 Lauren O Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:46:16 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=9269#comment-208332 Damn, what is up with the Unruhs? Damn, what is up with the Unruhs?

]]> By: All One http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/10/28/never-necessary/#comment-208321 All One Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:31:54 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=9269#comment-208321 We don't need extreme examples of cases where the mother's life is at risk due to pregnancy. Women always have and always will have the choice to abort. The choice to have a legal and safe abortion is worth fighting for. Anyone who truly is against abortion would be fighting to eradicate poverty and create more equal opportunity for women. That is the only way to reduce the numbers of abortion. My question to the people who want to make abortion illegal is how? How will you police my body and the bodies of 51% of this population? Will you spread my legs monthly to make sure the blood in my trash is just menstrual and not abortive? Will you test my blood for hormone levels once or twice per month? How? How will you know? How will you punish me? Does this feed your big punisher, master / servant fantasy? Isn't that what a lot for Christianity is all about? Big, mean, master in the sky waiting to punish us all for living? I don't think Christ would have forced anyone to give birth. We don’t need extreme examples of cases where the mother’s life is at risk due to pregnancy.
Women always have and always will have the choice to abort.
The choice to have a legal and safe abortion is worth fighting for.
Anyone who truly is against abortion would be fighting to eradicate poverty and create more equal opportunity for women. That is the only way to reduce the numbers of abortion.

My question to the people who want to make abortion illegal is how?
How will you police my body and the bodies of 51% of this population?
Will you spread my legs monthly to make sure the blood in my trash is just menstrual and not abortive?
Will you test my blood for hormone levels once or twice per month?
How?
How will you know?
How will you punish me?
Does this feed your big punisher, master / servant fantasy?
Isn’t that what a lot for Christianity is all about?
Big, mean, master in the sky waiting to punish us all for living?

I don’t think Christ would have forced anyone to give birth.

]]> By: nails http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/10/28/never-necessary/#comment-208303 nails Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:58:06 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=9269#comment-208303 choose life... even when it will KILL YOU. wtf?! choose life… even when it will KILL YOU. wtf?!

]]> By: Emily http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/10/28/never-necessary/#comment-208302 Emily Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:28:26 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=9269#comment-208302 Not that anyone here was arguing anything that conflicts with my comment above. I think wrt stories like this people sometimes end up feeling like those who believe Ms. Campbell must have the right to choose the selective reduction also think that no one should choose (or be allowed to choose) the other option. Which is obviously not true. Not that anyone here was arguing anything that conflicts with my comment above. I think wrt stories like this people sometimes end up feeling like those who believe Ms. Campbell must have the right to choose the selective reduction also think that no one should choose (or be allowed to choose) the other option. Which is obviously not true.

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