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	<title>Comments on: Priest Warns Obama Voters Against Receiving Communion</title>
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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: birdfarm</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/11/15/priest-warns-obama-voters-against-receiving-communion/#comment-213233</link>
		<dc:creator>birdfarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 09:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adrian, he did say you could confess - 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Persons in this condition should not receive Holy Communion until and unless they are reconciled to God in the Sacrament of Penance.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The Sacrament of Penance is the official name for what is commonly called confession.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrian, he did say you could confess &#8211; </p>
<blockquote><p>Persons in this condition should not receive Holy Communion until and unless they are reconciled to God in the Sacrament of Penance.</p></blockquote>
<p>The Sacrament of Penance is the official name for what is commonly called confession.</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also a Catholic (more spiritual), I sent a letter to St. Mary&#039;s Church but have yet to receive a response. Please read it and my position at: http://www.examiner.com/x-948-Miami-Law--Politics-Examiner~y2008m11d13-An-open-letter-to-Pastor-Newman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also a Catholic (more spiritual), I sent a letter to St. Mary&#8217;s Church but have yet to receive a response. Please read it and my position at: <a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-948-Miami-Law--Politics-Examiner~y2008m11d13-An-open-letter-to-Pastor-Newman" rel="nofollow">http://www.examiner.com/x-948-Miami-Law&#8211;Politics-Examiner~y2008m11d13-An-open-letter-to-Pastor-Newman</a></p>
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		<title>By: prefer not to say</title>
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		<dc:creator>prefer not to say</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 23:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone has read this far and is interested in the US Catholic Church&#039;s *official* advice to its members on voting, you&#039;ll want to take a look at this:

http://www.usccb.org/faithfulcitizenship/FCStatement.pdf

It&#039;s the document the bishops write and have distributed to church members in the month before election, reminding them that human life, family life, social justice, environmental stewardship and global solidarity are all values which a voter must take into account in order to make a moral choice.

There were a number of bishops who refused to let it be distributed in their dioceses simply because it did not name abortion as the number one overriding issue on which to vote. 

Regardless of where you stand on abortion, voting your conscience is difficult and takes time and information, because there are many issues to be considered and weighed. Those who fantasize that they can do right simply by voting on one issue sell short the difficulty of being an honestly conscientious citizen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone has read this far and is interested in the US Catholic Church&#8217;s *official* advice to its members on voting, you&#8217;ll want to take a look at this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usccb.org/faithfulcitizenship/FCStatement.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.usccb.org/faithfulcitizenship/FCStatement.pdf</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s the document the bishops write and have distributed to church members in the month before election, reminding them that human life, family life, social justice, environmental stewardship and global solidarity are all values which a voter must take into account in order to make a moral choice.</p>
<p>There were a number of bishops who refused to let it be distributed in their dioceses simply because it did not name abortion as the number one overriding issue on which to vote. </p>
<p>Regardless of where you stand on abortion, voting your conscience is difficult and takes time and information, because there are many issues to be considered and weighed. Those who fantasize that they can do right simply by voting on one issue sell short the difficulty of being an honestly conscientious citizen.</p>
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		<title>By: Cara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 21:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old Cranky, as someone working for a Planned Parenthood affiliate, I can and did ask supporters via our blog to donate to the SD Healthy Families No on 11 campaign.  The affiliate is c3.  And that&#039;s totally legal.  How the whole tithe thing works in relation to that, I do not know.  But &lt;i&gt;to the best of my knowledge&lt;/i&gt; it&#039;s not really any different.  A 501(c )(3) can encourage supporters to donate to other causes, even political ones, so long as they are not candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old Cranky, as someone working for a Planned Parenthood affiliate, I can and did ask supporters via our blog to donate to the SD Healthy Families No on 11 campaign.  The affiliate is c3.  And that&#8217;s totally legal.  How the whole tithe thing works in relation to that, I do not know.  But <i>to the best of my knowledge</i> it&#8217;s not really any different.  A 501(c )(3) can encourage supporters to donate to other causes, even political ones, so long as they are not candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: ol cranky</title>
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		<dc:creator>ol cranky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 21:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’ve seen the petitions against the Mormon church regarding the work on Prop 8, and haven’t signed because I know that they were within their rights legally, if not morally.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Cara:  there&#039;s been a lot of chatter that LDS actually funneled money to the YES on 8 campaign by telling congregants that donations to the fund would count towards their tithe.  I&#039;m not sure if this is true or not (I&#039;m sure if it is they were very clever in how they handled it) but if it is true were does this fall on the legal spectrum?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’ve seen the petitions against the Mormon church regarding the work on Prop 8, and haven’t signed because I know that they were within their rights legally, if not morally.</p></blockquote>
<p>Cara:  there&#8217;s been a lot of chatter that LDS actually funneled money to the YES on 8 campaign by telling congregants that donations to the fund would count towards their tithe.  I&#8217;m not sure if this is true or not (I&#8217;m sure if it is they were very clever in how they handled it) but if it is true were does this fall on the legal spectrum?</p>
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		<title>By: Unanimous_Person</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unanimous_Person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 21:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue of pro-life, and pro-choice is something that will raise controversy no matter where it rears its head, but I cannot help but think there may be a more underlying issue to this priests behavior.  Lately I have seen many implications of racism towards Obama, and southern US DOES have that reputation, and what better way to conceal immoral and controversial motives, than with an understood immoral and controversial issue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue of pro-life, and pro-choice is something that will raise controversy no matter where it rears its head, but I cannot help but think there may be a more underlying issue to this priests behavior.  Lately I have seen many implications of racism towards Obama, and southern US DOES have that reputation, and what better way to conceal immoral and controversial motives, than with an understood immoral and controversial issue?</p>
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		<title>By: evil_fizz</title>
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		<dc:creator>evil_fizz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cara, I have to disagree with you.  Regulation of churches is, inevitably, a 1st Amendment issue, whether we&#039;re talking about speech or the Establishment Clause (even if the 1st Amendment winds up being ancillary).  With respect to 501(c )(3) status, it&#039;s a bit different, but I think that the 1st Amendment is inevitably in the background.

There&#039;s a huge contingent of churches and church leaders who think that the tax-exempt rules should not preclude them from naming candidates.  (And let&#039;s be honest: if you stake out enough policy positions as a church, it becomes fairly clear which candidates you have in mind.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cara, I have to disagree with you.  Regulation of churches is, inevitably, a 1st Amendment issue, whether we&#8217;re talking about speech or the Establishment Clause (even if the 1st Amendment winds up being ancillary).  With respect to 501(c )(3) status, it&#8217;s a bit different, but I think that the 1st Amendment is inevitably in the background.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a huge contingent of churches and church leaders who think that the tax-exempt rules should not preclude them from naming candidates.  (And let&#8217;s be honest: if you stake out enough policy positions as a church, it becomes fairly clear which candidates you have in mind.)</p>
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		<title>By: DaisyDeadhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaisyDeadhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Moreover, what this priest pulled sounds far more like what some Protestant denominations, especially those of the fundamentalist right variety would pull judging by what I’ve observed firsthand and heard from classmates/co-workers.&lt;/i&gt;

Interesting that you are saying this.  Jay Scott Newman was raised by a Baptist single mother in NC, proclaimed himself Rebel Atheist at a very young age,  and eventually converted to Christianity after he got to Princeton.  I&#039;ve always thought he had a sort of southern-Protestant approach, which is likely a regional trait, simply from growing up here.   

Thank you for the link and the great comments.  This whole thing has thrown me for a loop, to say the least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Moreover, what this priest pulled sounds far more like what some Protestant denominations, especially those of the fundamentalist right variety would pull judging by what I’ve observed firsthand and heard from classmates/co-workers.</i></p>
<p>Interesting that you are saying this.  Jay Scott Newman was raised by a Baptist single mother in NC, proclaimed himself Rebel Atheist at a very young age,  and eventually converted to Christianity after he got to Princeton.  I&#8217;ve always thought he had a sort of southern-Protestant approach, which is likely a regional trait, simply from growing up here.   </p>
<p>Thank you for the link and the great comments.  This whole thing has thrown me for a loop, to say the least.</p>
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		<title>By: Cara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If you’re asking why as a practical matter, it’s a 1st Amendment issue as well.&lt;/i&gt;

No it&#039;s not.  If it was, they&#039;d be able to talk about candidates as well.  But I do agree with you, from working at a non-profit, with how 501(c)(3) status works.  I&#039;ve seen the petitions against the Mormon church regarding the work on Prop 8, and haven&#039;t signed because I know that they were within their rights legally, if not morally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If you’re asking why as a practical matter, it’s a 1st Amendment issue as well.</i></p>
<p>No it&#8217;s not.  If it was, they&#8217;d be able to talk about candidates as well.  But I do agree with you, from working at a non-profit, with how 501(c)(3) status works.  I&#8217;ve seen the petitions against the Mormon church regarding the work on Prop 8, and haven&#8217;t signed because I know that they were within their rights legally, if not morally.</p>
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		<title>By: Steeeeeeev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steeeeeeev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Karl Rove has shown us with &quot;W&quot;, any incompetent moron can profess to be against abortion and get a lot of votes... if he screws up the country, so what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Karl Rove has shown us with &#8220;W&#8221;, any incompetent moron can profess to be against abortion and get a lot of votes&#8230; if he screws up the country, so what?</p>
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