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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: Big fish, small fish, small pond, big ocean: a Seussian experience of feminism &#171; Raising My Boychick</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/02/pearl-clutchers-and-straw-women/#comment-262571</link>
		<dc:creator>Big fish, small fish, small pond, big ocean: a Seussian experience of feminism &#171; Raising My Boychick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 06:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ways, and I spend most of my time just reading and reading and studying and following links and getting challenged, because there is so much I do not yet know about what it means to identify feminist, to exist with [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ways, and I spend most of my time just reading and reading and studying and following links and getting challenged, because there is so much I do not yet know about what it means to identify feminist, to exist with [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/02/pearl-clutchers-and-straw-women/#comment-227029</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say it:  There&#039;s no such thing as &quot;inverse racism&quot; or &quot;reverse racism.&quot;  There&#039;s just racism.  To state otherwise is to reveal your own prejudices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say it:  There&#8217;s no such thing as &#8220;inverse racism&#8221; or &#8220;reverse racism.&#8221;  There&#8217;s just racism.  To state otherwise is to reveal your own prejudices.</p>
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		<title>By: Oh Well</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/02/pearl-clutchers-and-straw-women/#comment-227026</link>
		<dc:creator>Oh Well</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Irish...you missed the point.   WOC don&#039;t want anything from WW but equality.   As a multiracial woman, I&#039;ve had it with the attitudes from both black women and white women who feel that they are entitled to look down on me.  Most Black women dismiss me because I can pass for white.   Many White and Latina women believe they are superior to me because of my only African feature, my hair.   I deal with crap from men of color all the time.   I don&#039;t need it from women too.


You can sit there and bitch about how &quot;unfair&quot; it is when WOC express their feelings...but that shows that you obviously don&#039;t care.    I don&#039;t expect anyone to help me out when I have a problem.   Most white women, on the other hand,  do expect to be comforted.   If you are unwilling to acknowledge a different perspective, how do you expect to learn anything?


Kathy B...ditto.    No one said that ALL white women are oppressors.   We are speaking specifically of white women who like to pretend that we&#039;re all in this wonderful sisterhood and there is no racism.   Your defensive reaction only proves Renee&#039;s point.   



Here is what you need to realize...conversations about race are uncomfortable.   People will express themselves in ways that offend you.   Don&#039;t make it all about you.   If you know that certain statements do not apply to you, there is no need to be offended.    Listen without judgement.   No one said that ALL white women are the same.   Both you and Irish missed that.   
Read between the lines.   It isn&#039;t about you until you make it that way.   You call it &quot;shitty and demeaning&quot; because you seem to feel that Renee is attacking every white woman in the world.    

Put on your big girl panties and deal with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irish&#8230;you missed the point.   WOC don&#8217;t want anything from WW but equality.   As a multiracial woman, I&#8217;ve had it with the attitudes from both black women and white women who feel that they are entitled to look down on me.  Most Black women dismiss me because I can pass for white.   Many White and Latina women believe they are superior to me because of my only African feature, my hair.   I deal with crap from men of color all the time.   I don&#8217;t need it from women too.</p>
<p>You can sit there and bitch about how &#8220;unfair&#8221; it is when WOC express their feelings&#8230;but that shows that you obviously don&#8217;t care.    I don&#8217;t expect anyone to help me out when I have a problem.   Most white women, on the other hand,  do expect to be comforted.   If you are unwilling to acknowledge a different perspective, how do you expect to learn anything?</p>
<p>Kathy B&#8230;ditto.    No one said that ALL white women are oppressors.   We are speaking specifically of white women who like to pretend that we&#8217;re all in this wonderful sisterhood and there is no racism.   Your defensive reaction only proves Renee&#8217;s point.   </p>
<p>Here is what you need to realize&#8230;conversations about race are uncomfortable.   People will express themselves in ways that offend you.   Don&#8217;t make it all about you.   If you know that certain statements do not apply to you, there is no need to be offended.    Listen without judgement.   No one said that ALL white women are the same.   Both you and Irish missed that.<br />
Read between the lines.   It isn&#8217;t about you until you make it that way.   You call it &#8220;shitty and demeaning&#8221; because you seem to feel that Renee is attacking every white woman in the world.    </p>
<p>Put on your big girl panties and deal with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Angel H.</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/02/pearl-clutchers-and-straw-women/#comment-219189</link>
		<dc:creator>Angel H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Queen Emily for the win!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Queen Emily for the win!</p>
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		<title>By: queen emily</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/02/pearl-clutchers-and-straw-women/#comment-219188</link>
		<dc:creator>queen emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was a killer judo flip there.  Pointing out oppression, why it&#039;s EXACTLY LIKE the oppression itself.  Kudos, no really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a killer judo flip there.  Pointing out oppression, why it&#8217;s EXACTLY LIKE the oppression itself.  Kudos, no really.</p>
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		<title>By: KathyB</title>
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		<dc:creator>KathyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 08:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With love and respect, it&#039;s just as shitty and demeaning to paint white women as oppressors as it is for white women to view WOC as less. I&#039;m not saying there&#039;s not white privilege, there DEFINITELY is, but I can&#039;t help the color of my skin any more than another. Is it that a white woman can&#039;t be feminist, or just not feminist &quot;enough&quot; because she doesn&#039;t share your struggle? It&#039;s just inverse racism, and there&#039;s no excuse for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With love and respect, it&#8217;s just as shitty and demeaning to paint white women as oppressors as it is for white women to view WOC as less. I&#8217;m not saying there&#8217;s not white privilege, there DEFINITELY is, but I can&#8217;t help the color of my skin any more than another. Is it that a white woman can&#8217;t be feminist, or just not feminist &#8220;enough&#8221; because she doesn&#8217;t share your struggle? It&#8217;s just inverse racism, and there&#8217;s no excuse for that.</p>
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		<title>By: irish</title>
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		<dc:creator>irish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 04:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take responsibility for your journey and do your own work. While I’m at it…don’t ask me for one of those sisterly hugs in your time of need either; black women are tired of comforting upset white people like we don’t have enough headaches of our own. You will not be getting a honey child from me. 

ive seen alot of statements like this and i just have to say, why is it our(ww) job to comfort you or make things easier for you(woc)?   like you said we have enough headaches of our own.  now i belive you just have to be the change you want to see in the world and you should never try to make things harder for someone else, but to put it bluntly, i have my own life to live i dont have time to fix yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take responsibility for your journey and do your own work. While I’m at it…don’t ask me for one of those sisterly hugs in your time of need either; black women are tired of comforting upset white people like we don’t have enough headaches of our own. You will not be getting a honey child from me. </p>
<p>ive seen alot of statements like this and i just have to say, why is it our(ww) job to comfort you or make things easier for you(woc)?   like you said we have enough headaches of our own.  now i belive you just have to be the change you want to see in the world and you should never try to make things harder for someone else, but to put it bluntly, i have my own life to live i dont have time to fix yours.</p>
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		<title>By: An overview of accessible public transport &#171; Zero at the Bone</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/02/pearl-clutchers-and-straw-women/#comment-215802</link>
		<dc:creator>An overview of accessible public transport &#171; Zero at the Bone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 11:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] *With this post of Renee&#8217;s in mind. &#8216;I don’t want to hear your comparisons of my life to yours, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] *With this post of Renee&#8217;s in mind. &#8216;I don’t want to hear your comparisons of my life to yours, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/02/pearl-clutchers-and-straw-women/#comment-215342</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 01:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing. The comment section is chock full of the very behavior that Renee despises. And the worst part is, I&#039;m sure she saw it coming. 

*grabs some popcorn and a chair*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing. The comment section is chock full of the very behavior that Renee despises. And the worst part is, I&#8217;m sure she saw it coming. </p>
<p>*grabs some popcorn and a chair*</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/02/pearl-clutchers-and-straw-women/#comment-215238</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SnowdropExplodes (#130) - You&#039;re totally on point. I just wanted to add that sometimes I think this defense is NOT deliberate, and is simply a learned behavioral default (not that this mitigates the effect at all, though it might mean more denial when the behavior is called out)....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SnowdropExplodes (#130) &#8211; You&#8217;re totally on point. I just wanted to add that sometimes I think this defense is NOT deliberate, and is simply a learned behavioral default (not that this mitigates the effect at all, though it might mean more denial when the behavior is called out)&#8230;.</p>
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