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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Ladettes&#8221;: Blame Feminism.</title>
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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: umami</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/11/ladettes-blame-feminism/#comment-216532</link>
		<dc:creator>umami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I find freaking hilarious is that they couldn&#039;t find a single picture of a non lipstick wearing woman to illustrate their assertion that &quot;women are trading lipstick in for lager.&quot; 

OK, OK, I know... they&#039;re only providing material for their readers to have a hate-wank and sputter out SLUT! on their orgasm, and what on earth could possibly be the point of a picture of a woman if she&#039;s not wearing lipstick? Still, it&#039;s interesting, the &quot;trading lipstick in for lager&quot; way of putting it. It basically translates into &quot;women don&#039;t care what men think of them, like they should do,&quot; while the text of the article insinuates that women are only getting drunk to prove something... to men, presumably. There&#039;s no way they&#039;re just doing it because they like it! See, insecure men? You don&#039;t have to worry. Every single thing a woman does is ALL ABOUT YOU and the world is righted on its axis once more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I find freaking hilarious is that they couldn&#8217;t find a single picture of a non lipstick wearing woman to illustrate their assertion that &#8220;women are trading lipstick in for lager.&#8221; </p>
<p>OK, OK, I know&#8230; they&#8217;re only providing material for their readers to have a hate-wank and sputter out SLUT! on their orgasm, and what on earth could possibly be the point of a picture of a woman if she&#8217;s not wearing lipstick? Still, it&#8217;s interesting, the &#8220;trading lipstick in for lager&#8221; way of putting it. It basically translates into &#8220;women don&#8217;t care what men think of them, like they should do,&#8221; while the text of the article insinuates that women are only getting drunk to prove something&#8230; to men, presumably. There&#8217;s no way they&#8217;re just doing it because they like it! See, insecure men? You don&#8217;t have to worry. Every single thing a woman does is ALL ABOUT YOU and the world is righted on its axis once more.</p>
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		<title>By: exholt</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/11/ladettes-blame-feminism/#comment-216529</link>
		<dc:creator>exholt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jill et al,

Interestingly enough, if the McCains had accounted for this trend, they could have taken advantage of Cindy McCain&#039;s position as chairperson of the regional Anheiser-Busch distributorship to focus their campaign strategy on beer drinking fans such as yourselves.  

*ducks*

I&#039;m kidding....I&#039;m kidding :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jill et al,</p>
<p>Interestingly enough, if the McCains had accounted for this trend, they could have taken advantage of Cindy McCain&#8217;s position as chairperson of the regional Anheiser-Busch distributorship to focus their campaign strategy on beer drinking fans such as yourselves.  </p>
<p>*ducks*</p>
<p>I&#8217;m kidding&#8230;.I&#8217;m kidding :D</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well my life is clearly ruined. I went out for the first time in over a year (I have kids, I work, I go to school... I&#039;m boring and I have no life, what can I say?) and I came home drunk to find my husband and kids had left me, leaving me alone with my alcohol and cats for the rest of my life. I wish someone had told me that this would clearly end my husband&#039;s attraction to me before I went out. 

Or in actuality I came home, climbed into bed, got some much needed sleep and woke up to my husband making me breakfast and my kids bouncing on my bed saying &quot;Mommy! Time to get up&quot;. Close though. I could definitely see the confusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well my life is clearly ruined. I went out for the first time in over a year (I have kids, I work, I go to school&#8230; I&#8217;m boring and I have no life, what can I say?) and I came home drunk to find my husband and kids had left me, leaving me alone with my alcohol and cats for the rest of my life. I wish someone had told me that this would clearly end my husband&#8217;s attraction to me before I went out. </p>
<p>Or in actuality I came home, climbed into bed, got some much needed sleep and woke up to my husband making me breakfast and my kids bouncing on my bed saying &#8220;Mommy! Time to get up&#8221;. Close though. I could definitely see the confusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Bad Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/11/ladettes-blame-feminism/#comment-216421</link>
		<dc:creator>Bad Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beer in Bavaria doesn&#039;t count as beer. It&#039;s considered a staple food. But Dunkel? Seriously? I&#039;d always go for the Helles. Oh my, women are drinking Dunkel...? Does that make me gay? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beer in Bavaria doesn&#8217;t count as beer. It&#8217;s considered a staple food. But Dunkel? Seriously? I&#8217;d always go for the Helles. Oh my, women are drinking Dunkel&#8230;? Does that make me gay? ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Bene</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/11/ladettes-blame-feminism/#comment-216414</link>
		<dc:creator>Bene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 05:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jill, I am also a Burt&#039;s Bees addict...but hell, I&#039;d permanently trade in a few bottles of glitter nail polish for a good bottle of Glenmorangie.

Nice to see that the Sun still has tip top journalistic sense, or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jill, I am also a Burt&#8217;s Bees addict&#8230;but hell, I&#8217;d permanently trade in a few bottles of glitter nail polish for a good bottle of Glenmorangie.</p>
<p>Nice to see that the Sun still has tip top journalistic sense, or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 04:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s true, you caught me! Damn it. It&#039;s not lager. It&#039;s a year-old picture of me at the Hofbrauhaus in Munich, and it&#039;s a Hofbrau Munchen Dunkel that I&#039;m drinking. Does that mean that I didn&#039;t destroy any boners with my boozing? 

And Holly, my hair is just up :-)  Although for anyone who&#039;s following in the crowds, I have cut some serious straight-across bangs since then, and grown the length very long. This is important information you all should know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true, you caught me! Damn it. It&#8217;s not lager. It&#8217;s a year-old picture of me at the Hofbrauhaus in Munich, and it&#8217;s a Hofbrau Munchen Dunkel that I&#8217;m drinking. Does that mean that I didn&#8217;t destroy any boners with my boozing? </p>
<p>And Holly, my hair is just up :-)  Although for anyone who&#8217;s following in the crowds, I have cut some serious straight-across bangs since then, and grown the length very long. This is important information you all should know.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 04:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not even fair, Hugo.

In other news, I caught &lt;a href=&quot;http://kerryhowley.com/2008/12/10/sugar-and-spice-and-screwdrivers/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this blog post&lt;/a&gt; on the same article, and I love the point made at the end.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I happen to have a female body. It does not follow that my every vice is part of some misguided attempt to achieve gender parity. I had a beer last night, and I have to say, it wasn’t a particularly gendered experience for me.

The author’s friends drink a lot; being young and single in New York, like living in a house with a couch on the front porch in a Midwestern college town, is a context in which someone is likely to drink more than the average person. I’ve always felt that people were more willing to grant the concept of life stages for men than for women; that dude crumpled over in the frat house is just going through his few years of drunken stupification; but the 24-year-old woman in an LES apartment who’s had a few too many Martinis– well, she’s ruined.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Werd, werd, werd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not even fair, Hugo.</p>
<p>In other news, I caught <a href="http://kerryhowley.com/2008/12/10/sugar-and-spice-and-screwdrivers/" rel="nofollow">this blog post</a> on the same article, and I love the point made at the end.</p>
<blockquote><p>I happen to have a female body. It does not follow that my every vice is part of some misguided attempt to achieve gender parity. I had a beer last night, and I have to say, it wasn’t a particularly gendered experience for me.</p>
<p>The author’s friends drink a lot; being young and single in New York, like living in a house with a couch on the front porch in a Midwestern college town, is a context in which someone is likely to drink more than the average person. I’ve always felt that people were more willing to grant the concept of life stages for men than for women; that dude crumpled over in the frat house is just going through his few years of drunken stupification; but the 24-year-old woman in an LES apartment who’s had a few too many Martinis– well, she’s ruined.</p></blockquote>
<p>Werd, werd, werd.</p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 03:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alright that looks like a Guinness Jill and why are&#039;nt you sharing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright that looks like a Guinness Jill and why are&#8217;nt you sharing?</p>
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		<title>By: Kristin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 03:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, what little light said.  That&#039;s no lager.  Obviously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, what little light said.  That&#8217;s no lager.  Obviously.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 03:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I don’t really have much affection for people of any gender who are obnoxiously loud drunks and who make huge scenes in public places. But somehow, I don’t think that’s what they’re getting at.&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, they seem to be unable to disapprove of behavior while still approving of the gender equality behind it. I get really sick of talking to folks like that.

Also, I like how the Sun article is all like, &quot;What are they thinking? No one&#039;s going to want to date them now!!!&quot; Yes, Sun, everything women do is for attracting men. For them to do something for their own pleasure instead of for male pleasure is literally unthinkable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I don’t really have much affection for people of any gender who are obnoxiously loud drunks and who make huge scenes in public places. But somehow, I don’t think that’s what they’re getting at.</i></p>
<p>Yeah, they seem to be unable to disapprove of behavior while still approving of the gender equality behind it. I get really sick of talking to folks like that.</p>
<p>Also, I like how the Sun article is all like, &#8220;What are they thinking? No one&#8217;s going to want to date them now!!!&#8221; Yes, Sun, everything women do is for attracting men. For them to do something for their own pleasure instead of for male pleasure is literally unthinkable.</p>
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