Comments on: Shoes and Democracy http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/16/shoes-and-democracy/ In defense of the sanctimonious women's studies set. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:12:24 +0000 hourly 1 By: Silke http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/16/shoes-and-democracy/#comment-217457 Silke Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:30:35 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=10229#comment-217457 The days are dwindling and his legacy of havoc wreaking and self-delusion is growing. When will this end? When will we know what the outcome of his sad excuse for a presidency will be? Unfortunately, we will reap what he sowed long into the future. Obama will have the near insurmountable task of repairing what was ruined. Bush has to practice ducking, since that is what he will do for his presidential retirement -- ducking accusations of his lousy presidency. At least he now knows he's physically ready for it. The days are dwindling and his legacy of havoc wreaking and self-delusion is growing. When will this end? When will we know what the outcome of his sad excuse for a presidency will be? Unfortunately, we will reap what he sowed long into the future. Obama will have the near insurmountable task of repairing what was ruined.

Bush has to practice ducking, since that is what he will do for his presidential retirement — ducking accusations of his lousy presidency. At least he now knows he’s physically ready for it.

]]> By: Angiportus http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/16/shoes-and-democracy/#comment-217396 Angiportus Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:50:15 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=10229#comment-217396 Bush actually mustered up enough brain cells to make puns?? I can hardly believe it. Of course I don't always manage to keep instep with the news, but I support everyone's efforts to counter human rights abuse, and hope against hope that the new administration will cobble up some better solutions. Bush actually mustered up enough brain cells to make puns?? I can hardly believe it. Of course I don’t always manage to keep instep with the news, but I support everyone’s efforts to counter human rights abuse, and hope against hope that the new administration will cobble up some better solutions.

]]> By: ACG http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/16/shoes-and-democracy/#comment-217392 ACG Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:14:11 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=10229#comment-217392 Unapologetic Feminist - That's a great idea. You should totally blog about that. This is going to come out in precisely the way I don't intend it, but I can't think of any other way to phrase it - I'm kind of split on the shoe-throwing thing. On the one hand, he did, in fact, assault the president. It may have been a pretty weeny one, as assaults go, but he did do it; free speech is one thing, but purposely trying to harm someone doesn't help your cause, even if the intended victim is the utter cockwhistle currently running our country. And I'm sure that Muntader al-Zaidi knew before he did it that he would be facing some sort of rightful punishment when he was done. On the other hand, assault and battery carry fairly reasonable sentences with them - some small amount of jail time. Probation. Damages to the victim. Maybe a fine. Torture sure as hell ain't one of 'em, even if the individual assaulted happens to be the president of a foreign country. And if George Bush wants to do the decent thing - not even a great thing, an act of basic decency that is within his power to do - he'll plead for clemency for al-Zaidi in the name of human decency and a fair and democratic Iraq. Unapologetic Feminist – That’s a great idea. You should totally blog about that.

This is going to come out in precisely the way I don’t intend it, but I can’t think of any other way to phrase it – I’m kind of split on the shoe-throwing thing.

On the one hand, he did, in fact, assault the president. It may have been a pretty weeny one, as assaults go, but he did do it; free speech is one thing, but purposely trying to harm someone doesn’t help your cause, even if the intended victim is the utter cockwhistle currently running our country. And I’m sure that Muntader al-Zaidi knew before he did it that he would be facing some sort of rightful punishment when he was done.

On the other hand, assault and battery carry fairly reasonable sentences with them – some small amount of jail time. Probation. Damages to the victim. Maybe a fine. Torture sure as hell ain’t one of ‘em, even if the individual assaulted happens to be the president of a foreign country. And if George Bush wants to do the decent thing – not even a great thing, an act of basic decency that is within his power to do – he’ll plead for clemency for al-Zaidi in the name of human decency and a fair and democratic Iraq.

]]> By: Kristin http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/16/shoes-and-democracy/#comment-217390 Kristin Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:07:07 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=10229#comment-217390 Well, I'll look forward to reading the revised post, Lauren. Well, I’ll look forward to reading the revised post, Lauren.

]]> By: Dogtanian http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/16/shoes-and-democracy/#comment-217383 Dogtanian Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:22:48 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=10229#comment-217383 "Lauren, I seriously doubt Iraq will become or adopt any forms of “democracy”. They’ve never started out as a democratic nation, nor will they ever be." ...And with what crystal ball can you see this? But of course you're speaking from a place of love and compassion for the Iraqi people, so you aren't being at all racist. “Lauren, I seriously doubt Iraq will become or adopt any forms of “democracy”. They’ve never started out as a democratic nation, nor will they ever be.”

…And with what crystal ball can you see this? But of course you’re speaking from a place of love and compassion for the Iraqi people, so you aren’t being at all racist.

]]> By: Fresh Peaches http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/16/shoes-and-democracy/#comment-217377 Fresh Peaches Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:05:46 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=10229#comment-217377 I found this post from Margaret and Helen to be pretty on the nose to how I feel about this. http://margaretandhelen.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/if-the-shoe-fits/ I found this post from Margaret and Helen to be pretty on the nose to how I feel about this.

http://margaretandhelen.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/if-the-shoe-fits/

]]> By: Kristin http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/16/shoes-and-democracy/#comment-217342 Kristin Wed, 17 Dec 2008 04:22:26 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=10229#comment-217342 Unapologetic Feminist: Um... You don't think human rights violations are relevant to women? Also, um, it's kind of infuriating to lecture people about what you think they should be blogging about. I mean... You appear to have your own blog, where you are free to construct whatever you think counts as "feminist." Have fun with that. Unapologetic Feminist: Um… You don’t think human rights violations are relevant to women? Also, um, it’s kind of infuriating to lecture people about what you think they should be blogging about. I mean… You appear to have your own blog, where you are free to construct whatever you think counts as “feminist.” Have fun with that.

]]> By: Kristin http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/16/shoes-and-democracy/#comment-217341 Kristin Wed, 17 Dec 2008 04:20:39 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=10229#comment-217341 Unapologetic Feminist: Um... You don't think human rights violations are relevant to women? Unapologetic Feminist: Um… You don’t think human rights violations are relevant to women?

]]> By: Unapologetic Feminist http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/16/shoes-and-democracy/#comment-217340 Unapologetic Feminist Wed, 17 Dec 2008 04:17:20 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=10229#comment-217340 I hate Bush just as much as everyone else on here and was rather entertained by the shoe incident. However, I am questioning what Feministe as a blog considers important. Where are your articles about Obama's male-dominated cabinet. Men outnumber women 4:1 thus far. In case you aren't aware of that, that is a LOWER percentage of women in the Obama cabinet than in the George W. Bush cabinet. Yes, the evil one had more gender equity than the sexist "change-maker" we all just elected into office. I challenge Feministe to step up. If you aren't faux feminists, then I expect to see you put some heat on Obama for being blatantly sexist in his cabinet picks. Token women does not equal gender equity! I hate Bush just as much as everyone else on here and was rather entertained by the shoe incident. However, I am questioning what Feministe as a blog considers important. Where are your articles about Obama’s male-dominated cabinet. Men outnumber women 4:1 thus far. In case you aren’t aware of that, that is a LOWER percentage of women in the Obama cabinet than in the George W. Bush cabinet. Yes, the evil one had more gender equity than the sexist “change-maker” we all just elected into office. I challenge Feministe to step up. If you aren’t faux feminists, then I expect to see you put some heat on Obama for being blatantly sexist in his cabinet picks.

Token women does not equal gender equity!

]]> By: Lauren http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/16/shoes-and-democracy/#comment-217337 Lauren Wed, 17 Dec 2008 04:12:40 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=10229#comment-217337 I'm with you guys -- I think I worded things poorly. I'll update tomorrow or the next day once I've had some rest. I’m with you guys — I think I worded things poorly. I’ll update tomorrow or the next day once I’ve had some rest.

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