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	<title>Comments on: Sorry, ladies, but your vagina conflicts with my morals.</title>
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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: Raise Your Voice to Remove the Global Gag &#171; strength never power</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/18/sorry-ladies-but-your-vagina-conflicts-with-my-morals/#comment-283915</link>
		<dc:creator>Raise Your Voice to Remove the Global Gag &#171; strength never power</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] be aware of:* Bush &#8211; Bush&#8217;s Final Attacks on Women&#8217;s Health [another petition] (more commentary here)* AND Obama &#8211; &#8220;Rick Warren to give Inauguration invocation&#8221;, &#8220;Ladies, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] be aware of:* Bush &#8211; Bush&#8217;s Final Attacks on Women&#8217;s Health [another petition] (more commentary here)* AND Obama &#8211; &#8220;Rick Warren to give Inauguration invocation&#8221;, &#8220;Ladies, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bush&#8217;s Christmas Gift to Women &#171; Kittywampus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bush&#8217;s Christmas Gift to Women &#171; Kittywampus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 03:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jill at Feministe has a great analysis of what&#8217;s really at stake in this rule. Here&#8217;s the short version (but you should really go read her whole post): It’s being framed as about abortion, but here’s the thing: There are existing laws that protect health care workers from performing or assisting with abortion. Under current U.S. law, no one can be forced to partake in an abortion procedure if they have a moral objection. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jill at Feministe has a great analysis of what&#8217;s really at stake in this rule. Here&#8217;s the short version (but you should really go read her whole post): It’s being framed as about abortion, but here’s the thing: There are existing laws that protect health care workers from performing or assisting with abortion. Under current U.S. law, no one can be forced to partake in an abortion procedure if they have a moral objection. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: lauredhel</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/18/sorry-ladies-but-your-vagina-conflicts-with-my-morals/#comment-218409</link>
		<dc:creator>lauredhel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[to add to what hexy said] ... and/or something you can&#039;t afford. As it happens, opiates give fantastic analgesic bang for the buck (when not inflated by market manipulation). And most of the &quot;alternatives&quot;, apart from NSAIDs (which a lot of people can&#039;t tolerate), cost a fortune in comparison - well into the triple figures for a typical month&#039;s worth. 

But refusal to offer treatment in a way that people can actually manage it is a great way to get those pesky demanding patients out of your hair. So HCPs who can&#039;t be bothered with them keep doing it, then crow to their colleagues about their superior druggie-turfing skillz. 

another possible addition: and/or something with intolerable side effects. Don&#039;t make me tell you about the time I was &quot;tried on&quot; tricyclics. Or on SSRIs. Brrrr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[to add to what hexy said] &#8230; and/or something you can&#8217;t afford. As it happens, opiates give fantastic analgesic bang for the buck (when not inflated by market manipulation). And most of the &#8220;alternatives&#8221;, apart from NSAIDs (which a lot of people can&#8217;t tolerate), cost a fortune in comparison &#8211; well into the triple figures for a typical month&#8217;s worth. </p>
<p>But refusal to offer treatment in a way that people can actually manage it is a great way to get those pesky demanding patients out of your hair. So HCPs who can&#8217;t be bothered with them keep doing it, then crow to their colleagues about their superior druggie-turfing skillz. </p>
<p>another possible addition: and/or something with intolerable side effects. Don&#8217;t make me tell you about the time I was &#8220;tried on&#8221; tricyclics. Or on SSRIs. Brrrr.</p>
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		<title>By: hexy</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/18/sorry-ladies-but-your-vagina-conflicts-with-my-morals/#comment-218387</link>
		<dc:creator>hexy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Drakyn, people who suffer from chronic pain can and do become addicted to pain meds. It is for that very reason we have to ween them off and put them on something else.&lt;/i&gt;

Y&#039;know, if you have access to this secret stash of non-addictive non-opiate painkillers that are as effective when treating extreme chronic pain as the stuff you think chronic pain patients should be &quot;weaned off&quot;, I&#039;d love to get my hands on some. That &quot;something else&quot; you&#039;re referring to? It&#039;s usually something less effective (if it works at all), something that has already been tried, and/or something equally as addictive as the original drug.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Drakyn, people who suffer from chronic pain can and do become addicted to pain meds. It is for that very reason we have to ween them off and put them on something else.</i></p>
<p>Y&#8217;know, if you have access to this secret stash of non-addictive non-opiate painkillers that are as effective when treating extreme chronic pain as the stuff you think chronic pain patients should be &#8220;weaned off&#8221;, I&#8217;d love to get my hands on some. That &#8220;something else&#8221; you&#8217;re referring to? It&#8217;s usually something less effective (if it works at all), something that has already been tried, and/or something equally as addictive as the original drug.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Harney</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/18/sorry-ladies-but-your-vagina-conflicts-with-my-morals/#comment-218262</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Harney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>er, &quot;either remove itself or claim to remove itself in a letter to me.&quot;

Or as a receptionist told me when i asked what happened, &quot;The doctors didn&#039;t realize what kind of people they&#039;d be sent when they were added to OHP.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>er, &#8220;either remove itself or claim to remove itself in a letter to me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or as a receptionist told me when i asked what happened, &#8220;The doctors didn&#8217;t realize what kind of people they&#8217;d be sent when they were added to OHP.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Millsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Millsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what I&#039;d really love to see? A Jehovah&#039;s witness who is a doctor/nurse/health provider who refused to perform or refer someone for a blood transfusion, because JW&#039;s don&#039;t believe in them. Or a christian scientist getting certified in the medical profession and then refusing to provide ANY care except for prayer.
Somehow I don&#039;t think this would fly. 
But that&#039;s exactly what the federal government allows the &quot;faithful&quot; to do to women. 
No double standard at all...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what I&#8217;d really love to see? A Jehovah&#8217;s witness who is a doctor/nurse/health provider who refused to perform or refer someone for a blood transfusion, because JW&#8217;s don&#8217;t believe in them. Or a christian scientist getting certified in the medical profession and then refusing to provide ANY care except for prayer.<br />
Somehow I don&#8217;t think this would fly.<br />
But that&#8217;s exactly what the federal government allows the &#8220;faithful&#8221; to do to women.<br />
No double standard at all&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Harney</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/18/sorry-ladies-but-your-vagina-conflicts-with-my-morals/#comment-218257</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Harney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;As far as your trans friends having medical horror stories, you can blame that on their botched surgeries. Medical professionals who work in that area of expertise, don’t have moral issues treating trans gendered people.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Botched surgeries aren&#039;t all that common, more the stuff of urban legend than basic fact. I mean, they do happen - in the same way that botched surgeries of other types happen. Relatively infrequently.

On the other hand, trans people routinely experience prejudice and are often refused proper treatment by medical specialists and ER personnel. I had a dentist tell me - when I had an abscess and needed emergency treatment right then to take care of it - that he wouldn&#039;t treat me because he thought that novocaine would have a negative interaction with estradiol valerate. I&#039;ve had a clinic either remove itself from the Oregon Health Plan two weeks after I started going, and the PCP I was assigned refused to see me more than twice and wouldn&#039;t supply referrals for anything. She wrote into my records that I&#039;d had DVT, which meant that anyone who saw that would refuse to prescribe estrogen to me (except that I was able to explain that it was a filthy lie).

And this doesn&#039;t even compare to what happened to Robert Eads and Tyra Hunter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As far as your trans friends having medical horror stories, you can blame that on their botched surgeries. Medical professionals who work in that area of expertise, don’t have moral issues treating trans gendered people.</p></blockquote>
<p>Botched surgeries aren&#8217;t all that common, more the stuff of urban legend than basic fact. I mean, they do happen &#8211; in the same way that botched surgeries of other types happen. Relatively infrequently.</p>
<p>On the other hand, trans people routinely experience prejudice and are often refused proper treatment by medical specialists and ER personnel. I had a dentist tell me &#8211; when I had an abscess and needed emergency treatment right then to take care of it &#8211; that he wouldn&#8217;t treat me because he thought that novocaine would have a negative interaction with estradiol valerate. I&#8217;ve had a clinic either remove itself from the Oregon Health Plan two weeks after I started going, and the PCP I was assigned refused to see me more than twice and wouldn&#8217;t supply referrals for anything. She wrote into my records that I&#8217;d had DVT, which meant that anyone who saw that would refuse to prescribe estrogen to me (except that I was able to explain that it was a filthy lie).</p>
<p>And this doesn&#8217;t even compare to what happened to Robert Eads and Tyra Hunter.</p>
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		<title>By: The new HHS rule &#171; Mom&#8217;s Tinfoil Hat</title>
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		<dc:creator>The new HHS rule &#171; Mom&#8217;s Tinfoil Hat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] December 23, 2008 Filed under: Uncategorized &#8212; MomTFH @ 2:56 am    There has been a lot of great coverage of the so called &#8220;conscience rule&#8221; Bush is pushing through at the last [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] December 23, 2008 Filed under: Uncategorized &#8212; MomTFH @ 2:56 am    There has been a lot of great coverage of the so called &#8220;conscience rule&#8221; Bush is pushing through at the last [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kristin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, we&#039;re running out of GP&#039;s here because doctors make so much more money as specialists, and so...  GP&#039;s are being over-worked and have too many patients and too many appointments (allotted something like 15 minutes each), and...  It&#039;s bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, we&#8217;re running out of GP&#8217;s here because doctors make so much more money as specialists, and so&#8230;  GP&#8217;s are being over-worked and have too many patients and too many appointments (allotted something like 15 minutes each), and&#8230;  It&#8217;s bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Queen Emily: In the US, under a number of insurance plans, one has to pay a pretty high fee in order to change the general practitioner (upwards of $90, as far as I know).  For trans people who cannot afford this fee, it could, I think, be just as hard to find a decent GP as a specialist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Queen Emily: In the US, under a number of insurance plans, one has to pay a pretty high fee in order to change the general practitioner (upwards of $90, as far as I know).  For trans people who cannot afford this fee, it could, I think, be just as hard to find a decent GP as a specialist.</p>
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