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		<title>By: Blue</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/23/justifying-the-world-with-science/#comment-218702</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corwin, 

You are condescending and nothing more. You have only shown your absolute lack of ability to use proper grammar, spell check or provide any reasoning beyond &quot;I&#039;m right and you&#039;re wrong because I&#039;m smart and you&#039;re not&quot; which is, quite frankly, more reminiscent of an ad hominem argument than anything logical. Sorry for bursting your bubble, but someone had to do it. 

As far as refuting your argument, well, you have to make a logical one before that is possible, so...get crackin&#039;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corwin, </p>
<p>You are condescending and nothing more. You have only shown your absolute lack of ability to use proper grammar, spell check or provide any reasoning beyond &#8220;I&#8217;m right and you&#8217;re wrong because I&#8217;m smart and you&#8217;re not&#8221; which is, quite frankly, more reminiscent of an ad hominem argument than anything logical. Sorry for bursting your bubble, but someone had to do it. </p>
<p>As far as refuting your argument, well, you have to make a logical one before that is possible, so&#8230;get crackin&#8217;!</p>
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		<title>By: corwin</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/23/justifying-the-world-with-science/#comment-218692</link>
		<dc:creator>corwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like the posters to read their comments,and hope it stimulates you from your lassitude.William,one of the points of being highly intelligent is I&#039;m aware of my capabilities.And it&#039;s interesting you&#039;d bring up &#039;The Bell Curve&quot;.I am quite secure in postulating you&#039;ve not read it ,and never will.Slightly less secure in saying you&#039;ve condemned it.Shah8,I don&#039;t understand your comment re&#039; JvN.I certainly don&#039;t equate my abilities with his by several AU&#039;s.(By the way,had you even heard the name before?The point was ,he didn&#039;t solve it as a riddle.He used brute intellect.I&#039;m not trying to irritate you-as a group or individually.You may be irritated because some of your dearest fables are being examined.Cut to Jack Nicholson,&quot;You can&#039;t handle the Truth.&quot;In an earlier thread,I mentioned(re&#039; the 77% myth)  how easily it was to debunk.A poster had no answer but talked of why logic couldn&#039;t answer it.Kind of like above.
 But let me reiterate what I surmise about your group think Information that troubles your prejudices is unwelcome and people bringing it are conceited beings who think they are so smart ,but really aren&#039;t
 It&#039;s not required to have a working knowledge of anything to have a firm opinion.People who have superior knowledge/intellects should have the decency to not burst bubbles.
 William,you&#039;re clearly intimidated.Don&#039;t be.Some of my best friends were Liberal Arts majors.
  The chances approach zero that one of you will do this,but read a copy of Be  Curve or something  you have avoided.Try to formulate what the information/messge says that is incorrect,not threatening to you.AS TJ Watson used to put on his employees&#039; wall THINK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like the posters to read their comments,and hope it stimulates you from your lassitude.William,one of the points of being highly intelligent is I&#8217;m aware of my capabilities.And it&#8217;s interesting you&#8217;d bring up &#8216;The Bell Curve&#8221;.I am quite secure in postulating you&#8217;ve not read it ,and never will.Slightly less secure in saying you&#8217;ve condemned it.Shah8,I don&#8217;t understand your comment re&#8217; JvN.I certainly don&#8217;t equate my abilities with his by several AU&#8217;s.(By the way,had you even heard the name before?The point was ,he didn&#8217;t solve it as a riddle.He used brute intellect.I&#8217;m not trying to irritate you-as a group or individually.You may be irritated because some of your dearest fables are being examined.Cut to Jack Nicholson,&#8221;You can&#8217;t handle the Truth.&#8221;In an earlier thread,I mentioned(re&#8217; the 77% myth)  how easily it was to debunk.A poster had no answer but talked of why logic couldn&#8217;t answer it.Kind of like above.<br />
 But let me reiterate what I surmise about your group think Information that troubles your prejudices is unwelcome and people bringing it are conceited beings who think they are so smart ,but really aren&#8217;t<br />
 It&#8217;s not required to have a working knowledge of anything to have a firm opinion.People who have superior knowledge/intellects should have the decency to not burst bubbles.<br />
 William,you&#8217;re clearly intimidated.Don&#8217;t be.Some of my best friends were Liberal Arts majors.<br />
  The chances approach zero that one of you will do this,but read a copy of Be  Curve or something  you have avoided.Try to formulate what the information/messge says that is incorrect,not threatening to you.AS TJ Watson used to put on his employees&#8217; wall THINK</p>
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		<title>By: DesBJay</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/23/justifying-the-world-with-science/#comment-218691</link>
		<dc:creator>DesBJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goddamit! Just another chatroorm where lonely souls while away their hours. Come on, Guardian, you used to have substance.</description>
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		<title>By: Len Firewood</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/12/23/justifying-the-world-with-science/#comment-218686</link>
		<dc:creator>Len Firewood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ohh by the way I just read that a commentator had made the completely ludicrous claim that in the nature - nurture wars nurture &#039;won&#039;. That is so off the mark that it almost beggars belief - one only has to reflect that were it not for &#039;nature&#039; there would be no such thing as &#039;nurture&#039;. In the final analysis if we as a species try and &#039;socialise&#039; our culture against the grain of our evolutionary and biological  imperatives then we will pay a negative price which could even include our own extinction. Nature cannot be so easily ignored nor thwarted as researches in many bio related fields have already revealed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohh by the way I just read that a commentator had made the completely ludicrous claim that in the nature &#8211; nurture wars nurture &#8216;won&#8217;. That is so off the mark that it almost beggars belief &#8211; one only has to reflect that were it not for &#8216;nature&#8217; there would be no such thing as &#8216;nurture&#8217;. In the final analysis if we as a species try and &#8216;socialise&#8217; our culture against the grain of our evolutionary and biological  imperatives then we will pay a negative price which could even include our own extinction. Nature cannot be so easily ignored nor thwarted as researches in many bio related fields have already revealed.</p>
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		<title>By: Len Firewood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Len Firewood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The trouble is that as soon as feminists start talking about &#039;pop science&#039; in a critical way it is only because what they are criticising doesn&#039;t fit their own biased world views. That they fail to recognise their on biases especially on issues of sexuality both biologically and socially raises the inevitable experience of witnessing the kettle calling the pot black.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trouble is that as soon as feminists start talking about &#8216;pop science&#8217; in a critical way it is only because what they are criticising doesn&#8217;t fit their own biased world views. That they fail to recognise their on biases especially on issues of sexuality both biologically and socially raises the inevitable experience of witnessing the kettle calling the pot black.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 02:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are you guys talking to this guy? It was pretty clear what was going on as soon as he tried to impugn someone&#039;s rational abilities by suggesting they must not be familiar with Boolean logic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are you guys talking to this guy? It was pretty clear what was going on as soon as he tried to impugn someone&#8217;s rational abilities by suggesting they must not be familiar with Boolean logic.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
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		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 02:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Your study on ice cream sales and murder is based on an old Rat Bradbury story.The gist was two elderly (retired) insurance execs found a temp at which more murders were committed than any other.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Like most good speculative fiction writers, Bradbury tended to take a small amount of existing science or theory and apply them in such a manner as to examine something about the human experience. As seems to be often the case, it appears that you are aware of only the most superficial aspects of the discussion. Just because Bradbury took a well known effect that professors have used for a long time to teach students about the limitations of correlation doesn&#039;t mean that the information being exchanged is false.

&lt;blockquote&gt;.And some of your critiques -it may have been a clock radio,not a thermometer , are laughable.Lo0ok ,one of the first things one is taught is not to “Post hoc,ergo propter hoc,”(Sorry to burst your bubble.)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, one of the first things people are taught is to not assume that correlation equals cause. Just because an even follows another does not mean that the first caused the other. I&#039;m not sure why you felt the need to follow an attempt at critique with a bit of misplaced Latin, but it neither help your cause nor lends the appearance of authority. Perhaps you were reaching for &lt;i&gt;reductio ad absurdum&lt;/i&gt;? Even that wouldn&#039;t quite work well because a nuanced critic would have realized that when I was talking about the temperature study I was using it as a symbol for the problems with the measurement of intelligence.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Sarah, a little primer on intelligenge.First,general intelligence (g) correlates with all forms of intelligence.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ahh, general intelligence. Could you please provide use with a definition of &quot;general intelligence?&quot; How would you measure it? How would you ensure construct validity? How would you manage differences in verbal abilities versus spacial relations? How do you account for people with very high general intelligence but very low emotional and social intelligence?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Let me explain a bit more&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Could we get a decoder ring as well, or should we just grab a cup of kool aid and a copy of The &quot;Bell Curve?&quot;

&lt;blockquote&gt;The generally accepted most intelligent person of the last century was John von Neumann.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Really? Care to back that statement with, I don&#039;t know...anything?

&lt;blockquote&gt;smart people do well in any field&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Again, some evidence here would be nice. Are you really suggesting that Nietzsche, under slightly different circumstances, could have been a great mathematician? Perhaps in another life Dali would have been a nuclear engineer or William Blake a skilled engineer.

&lt;blockquote&gt;What I find a/be-musing is so many people who have firm feelings on subjects have no knowldge or ability to apply knowledge.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What I find &quot;a/be-musing&quot; is the combination of your shockingly poor verbal abilities, clearly defensive arrogance, and inability to attend to anything beyond the manifest. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Let me make a point to so many of you.and I’m not trying to bully with my intellect.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ll try not to be intimidated...

&lt;blockquote&gt;You tend to want pleasant answers.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Which is why I&#039;m such a big fan of Michel Foucault and Alice Miller. Rays of sunshine those two are...

&lt;blockquote&gt;And you avoid and even are antagonistic to persons who impinge with reality.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m going to assume you mean &quot;impinge &lt;i&gt;upon&lt;/i&gt; reality&quot; there and were just too busy to proofread. Anyway, I find it interesting that you assume not only that such a thing as &quot;reality&quot; can exist but also that you are able to accurately and infallibly identify it. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;I am usually referred to as ‘brilliant’.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Funny, most people who need to make an assertion like that tend not to be. You really are a beautiful and unique snowflake!

&lt;blockquote&gt;I have more scientific background than a fraction of 1% of the populace&lt;/blockquote&gt;

A cynic might assume that all of these masturbatory qualifiers would signal someone who is trying to convince themselves as much as their audience. I&#039;m not a cynic though, I&#039;m more a fan of plesant answers, so I&#039;ll just assume that you are possessed of an intellect so overwhelming that what would be crippling insecurity masquerading as arrogance or conceit in a lesser person is simply self awareness for you. Y&#039;know, like Ayn Rand.

&lt;blockquote&gt;See my point?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Perhaps, but I&#039;m willing to bet that its not the one you&#039;re trying to make.

&lt;blockquote&gt;See why I’m a little humble?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, I doubt there is any question of how humble you are, Corwin.  

Anyway, barring a change in attitude I&#039;m not going to respond to you anymore. Its clear at this point that you&#039;re starved for attention and painfully insecure. I don&#039;t see much of a point in continuing to kick you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Your study on ice cream sales and murder is based on an old Rat Bradbury story.The gist was two elderly (retired) insurance execs found a temp at which more murders were committed than any other.</p></blockquote>
<p>Like most good speculative fiction writers, Bradbury tended to take a small amount of existing science or theory and apply them in such a manner as to examine something about the human experience. As seems to be often the case, it appears that you are aware of only the most superficial aspects of the discussion. Just because Bradbury took a well known effect that professors have used for a long time to teach students about the limitations of correlation doesn&#8217;t mean that the information being exchanged is false.</p>
<blockquote><p>.And some of your critiques -it may have been a clock radio,not a thermometer , are laughable.Lo0ok ,one of the first things one is taught is not to “Post hoc,ergo propter hoc,”(Sorry to burst your bubble.)</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, one of the first things people are taught is to not assume that correlation equals cause. Just because an even follows another does not mean that the first caused the other. I&#8217;m not sure why you felt the need to follow an attempt at critique with a bit of misplaced Latin, but it neither help your cause nor lends the appearance of authority. Perhaps you were reaching for <i>reductio ad absurdum</i>? Even that wouldn&#8217;t quite work well because a nuanced critic would have realized that when I was talking about the temperature study I was using it as a symbol for the problems with the measurement of intelligence.</p>
<blockquote><p>Sarah, a little primer on intelligenge.First,general intelligence (g) correlates with all forms of intelligence.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ahh, general intelligence. Could you please provide use with a definition of &#8220;general intelligence?&#8221; How would you measure it? How would you ensure construct validity? How would you manage differences in verbal abilities versus spacial relations? How do you account for people with very high general intelligence but very low emotional and social intelligence?</p>
<blockquote><p>Let me explain a bit more</p></blockquote>
<p>Could we get a decoder ring as well, or should we just grab a cup of kool aid and a copy of The &#8220;Bell Curve?&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>The generally accepted most intelligent person of the last century was John von Neumann.</p></blockquote>
<p>Really? Care to back that statement with, I don&#8217;t know&#8230;anything?</p>
<blockquote><p>smart people do well in any field</p></blockquote>
<p>Again, some evidence here would be nice. Are you really suggesting that Nietzsche, under slightly different circumstances, could have been a great mathematician? Perhaps in another life Dali would have been a nuclear engineer or William Blake a skilled engineer.</p>
<blockquote><p>What I find a/be-musing is so many people who have firm feelings on subjects have no knowldge or ability to apply knowledge.</p></blockquote>
<p>What I find &#8220;a/be-musing&#8221; is the combination of your shockingly poor verbal abilities, clearly defensive arrogance, and inability to attend to anything beyond the manifest. </p>
<blockquote><p>Let me make a point to so many of you.and I’m not trying to bully with my intellect.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ll try not to be intimidated&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>You tend to want pleasant answers.</p></blockquote>
<p>Which is why I&#8217;m such a big fan of Michel Foucault and Alice Miller. Rays of sunshine those two are&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>And you avoid and even are antagonistic to persons who impinge with reality.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m going to assume you mean &#8220;impinge <i>upon</i> reality&#8221; there and were just too busy to proofread. Anyway, I find it interesting that you assume not only that such a thing as &#8220;reality&#8221; can exist but also that you are able to accurately and infallibly identify it. </p>
<blockquote><p>I am usually referred to as ‘brilliant’.</p></blockquote>
<p>Funny, most people who need to make an assertion like that tend not to be. You really are a beautiful and unique snowflake!</p>
<blockquote><p>I have more scientific background than a fraction of 1% of the populace</p></blockquote>
<p>A cynic might assume that all of these masturbatory qualifiers would signal someone who is trying to convince themselves as much as their audience. I&#8217;m not a cynic though, I&#8217;m more a fan of plesant answers, so I&#8217;ll just assume that you are possessed of an intellect so overwhelming that what would be crippling insecurity masquerading as arrogance or conceit in a lesser person is simply self awareness for you. Y&#8217;know, like Ayn Rand.</p>
<blockquote><p>See my point?</p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps, but I&#8217;m willing to bet that its not the one you&#8217;re trying to make.</p>
<blockquote><p>See why I’m a little humble?</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, I doubt there is any question of how humble you are, Corwin.  </p>
<p>Anyway, barring a change in attitude I&#8217;m not going to respond to you anymore. Its clear at this point that you&#8217;re starved for attention and painfully insecure. I don&#8217;t see much of a point in continuing to kick you.</p>
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		<title>By: shah8</title>
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		<dc:creator>shah8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 23:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, my god, and Amanda (and she has plenty of company, including family) gets upset with me for being my know-it-all self...

At least I tend to be right--and when I&#039;m not, I&#039;m freakin&#039; crazy.  Easy to tell either way.

&lt;strong&gt;Corwin&lt;/strong&gt;, you&#039;re an idiot.  You&#039;re also an idiot that takes work to read and interpret.  I had to snort at comment 26.  I did pretty much the exact same fucking thing to another student (while in high school).  Most riddles are riddles because they have deceptively easy solutions.  For any of them, no matter how hard it is, it&#039;s a matter of the right perspective.  Telling a story of Von Neumann giving the right answer to *that* problem (as an example of real smartnes) sez a whole lot more about smart *you* are, than how smart Von Neumann is--which is still really fuckin&#039; smart.

I mean...my god.  You didn&#039;t even understand &lt;strong&gt;Sarah&lt;/strong&gt;&#039;s answer!  She&#039;s fucking exactly right, and you still can&#039;t be bothered to drop the condescending attitude!  As if VonNeumann is actually an unknown name to people here.  

You&#039;ve gotta be a troll projecting insecurities...

Sarah?  I thought your comment about math was pretty funny.  I&#039;m pretty much the opposite.  I absolutely can&#039;t handle any kind of make-your-own-context math like set theory or circuits like knight travels.  However, I am very good at the spatial awareness part!  Linear Algebra, conic sections, diffEQ (sorta, I&#039;m wierd), anything with a pattern or shape to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, my god, and Amanda (and she has plenty of company, including family) gets upset with me for being my know-it-all self&#8230;</p>
<p>At least I tend to be right&#8211;and when I&#8217;m not, I&#8217;m freakin&#8217; crazy.  Easy to tell either way.</p>
<p><strong>Corwin</strong>, you&#8217;re an idiot.  You&#8217;re also an idiot that takes work to read and interpret.  I had to snort at comment 26.  I did pretty much the exact same fucking thing to another student (while in high school).  Most riddles are riddles because they have deceptively easy solutions.  For any of them, no matter how hard it is, it&#8217;s a matter of the right perspective.  Telling a story of Von Neumann giving the right answer to *that* problem (as an example of real smartnes) sez a whole lot more about smart *you* are, than how smart Von Neumann is&#8211;which is still really fuckin&#8217; smart.</p>
<p>I mean&#8230;my god.  You didn&#8217;t even understand <strong>Sarah</strong>&#8216;s answer!  She&#8217;s fucking exactly right, and you still can&#8217;t be bothered to drop the condescending attitude!  As if VonNeumann is actually an unknown name to people here.  </p>
<p>You&#8217;ve gotta be a troll projecting insecurities&#8230;</p>
<p>Sarah?  I thought your comment about math was pretty funny.  I&#8217;m pretty much the opposite.  I absolutely can&#8217;t handle any kind of make-your-own-context math like set theory or circuits like knight travels.  However, I am very good at the spatial awareness part!  Linear Algebra, conic sections, diffEQ (sorta, I&#8217;m wierd), anything with a pattern or shape to them.</p>
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		<title>By: corwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>corwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 22:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I will leave a small story about JvN-AKA the Great Man.Another Princeton prof presented him with a riddle about the distance two flies would travel on bicycle rims of opposing bikes.After a brief pause,he gave the correct answer.He was chided,&quot;Ah,John.You&#039;ve heard the riddle.&quot;He replied,&quot;What riddle?I just summed the infinite series.&quot;See why I&#039;m a little humble?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I will leave a small story about JvN-AKA the Great Man.Another Princeton prof presented him with a riddle about the distance two flies would travel on bicycle rims of opposing bikes.After a brief pause,he gave the correct answer.He was chided,&#8221;Ah,John.You&#8217;ve heard the riddle.&#8221;He replied,&#8221;What riddle?I just summed the infinite series.&#8221;See why I&#8217;m a little humble?</p>
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		<title>By: corwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>corwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 22:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William,
Your study on ice cream sales and murder is based on an old Rat Bradbury story.The gist was two elderly (retired) insurance execs found a temp at which more murders were committed than any other.And some of your critiques -it may have been a clock radio,not a thermometer , are laughable.Lo0ok ,one of the  first things one is taught is not to &quot;Post hoc,ergo propter hoc,&quot;(Sorry to burst your bubble.)
 Sarah, a little primer on intelligenge.First,general intelligence (g) correlates with all forms of intelligence.It&#039;s been the nightmare og the &#039;anti-intellect&#039; people for decades.As one prominent anti IQ person admitted,&quot;You can make &#039;g&#039; hide,but it won&#039;t go away.&quot; Let me explain a bit more.The generally accepted most intelligent person of the last century was  John von Neumann.It&#039;s doubtful if many of you recognize the name.But aside fro his math abilities,he wasm involved with constructing the A bomb,made Games theory,re wrote economics,spoke about 8 languages and administered  the Institute for Advanced Studies.His intelligence was unusual in it&#039;s depth,but smart people do well in any field.What I find a/be-musing is so many people who have firm feelings on subjects have no knowldge or ability to apply knowledge.Sarah,by definition the Arctic ice is a floating cap.
  Let me make a point to so many of you.and I&#039;m not trying to  bully with my intellect.You tend to want pleasant answers.And you avoid and even are antagonistic to persons who impinge with reality. I am usually referred to as &#039;brilliant&#039;.that doesn&#039;t mean I&#039;m a genius-I&#039;m not-and I have to work very hard at my job,but my results give that conclusion.I have more scientific background  than a fraction of 1% of the populace.But I don&#039;t hazard a guess on GW,since I&#039;m ignorant of the subject,it&#039;s complex,other real smart people-some of whom are undoubtedly smarter than  I aren&#039;t sure about it.But,so many of you are sure..See my point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William,<br />
Your study on ice cream sales and murder is based on an old Rat Bradbury story.The gist was two elderly (retired) insurance execs found a temp at which more murders were committed than any other.And some of your critiques -it may have been a clock radio,not a thermometer , are laughable.Lo0ok ,one of the  first things one is taught is not to &#8220;Post hoc,ergo propter hoc,&#8221;(Sorry to burst your bubble.)<br />
 Sarah, a little primer on intelligenge.First,general intelligence (g) correlates with all forms of intelligence.It&#8217;s been the nightmare og the &#8216;anti-intellect&#8217; people for decades.As one prominent anti IQ person admitted,&#8221;You can make &#8216;g&#8217; hide,but it won&#8217;t go away.&#8221; Let me explain a bit more.The generally accepted most intelligent person of the last century was  John von Neumann.It&#8217;s doubtful if many of you recognize the name.But aside fro his math abilities,he wasm involved with constructing the A bomb,made Games theory,re wrote economics,spoke about 8 languages and administered  the Institute for Advanced Studies.His intelligence was unusual in it&#8217;s depth,but smart people do well in any field.What I find a/be-musing is so many people who have firm feelings on subjects have no knowldge or ability to apply knowledge.Sarah,by definition the Arctic ice is a floating cap.<br />
  Let me make a point to so many of you.and I&#8217;m not trying to  bully with my intellect.You tend to want pleasant answers.And you avoid and even are antagonistic to persons who impinge with reality. I am usually referred to as &#8216;brilliant&#8217;.that doesn&#8217;t mean I&#8217;m a genius-I&#8217;m not-and I have to work very hard at my job,but my results give that conclusion.I have more scientific background  than a fraction of 1% of the populace.But I don&#8217;t hazard a guess on GW,since I&#8217;m ignorant of the subject,it&#8217;s complex,other real smart people-some of whom are undoubtedly smarter than  I aren&#8217;t sure about it.But,so many of you are sure..See my point?</p>
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