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	<title>Comments on: Book Club: So Many Ways to Sleep Badly</title>
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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/01/04/book-club-so-many-ways-to-sleep-badly/#comment-219875</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mattilda - Welcome!!  I&#039;m honored that you stopped by!

Denelian - thank you for sharing your experiences.  That sheds a lot of light on the character.  And I&#039;m so sorry that you&#039;ve had to deal with so many close-minded and abusive people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mattilda &#8211; Welcome!!  I&#8217;m honored that you stopped by!</p>
<p>Denelian &#8211; thank you for sharing your experiences.  That sheds a lot of light on the character.  And I&#8217;m so sorry that you&#8217;ve had to deal with so many close-minded and abusive people.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a particular ritual or herb relieves a medical symptom, I don&#039;t understand how it can be &quot;appropriated.&quot;  If it creates a real effect, it&#039;s not just cultural property or belief.  If it&#039;s just a superstition, it&#039;s just a superstition, so it&#039;s not doing anyone any good regardless of where they grew up.  I feel the same way about practicing a religion - if God X really exists and really works in people&#039;s lives, who&#039;s to say that people of cultures where the religion is not widely accepted need to go to heck (or whatever happens to nonbelievers) and stop appropriating other cultures?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a particular ritual or herb relieves a medical symptom, I don&#8217;t understand how it can be &#8220;appropriated.&#8221;  If it creates a real effect, it&#8217;s not just cultural property or belief.  If it&#8217;s just a superstition, it&#8217;s just a superstition, so it&#8217;s not doing anyone any good regardless of where they grew up.  I feel the same way about practicing a religion &#8211; if God X really exists and really works in people&#8217;s lives, who&#8217;s to say that people of cultures where the religion is not widely accepted need to go to heck (or whatever happens to nonbelievers) and stop appropriating other cultures?</p>
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		<title>By: The Morning After: &#8220;Gaylord Fuckers&#8221; Edition - The Sexist - Washington City Paper</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/01/04/book-club-so-many-ways-to-sleep-badly/#comment-219844</link>
		<dc:creator>The Morning After: &#8220;Gaylord Fuckers&#8221; Edition - The Sexist - Washington City Paper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Feminist book corner: Feministe reviews So Many Ways to Sleep Badly by Mattilda Bernstein [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mattilda Bernstein Sycamore</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/01/04/book-club-so-many-ways-to-sleep-badly/#comment-219809</link>
		<dc:creator>Mattilda Bernstein Sycamore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie, thanks so much for choosing So Many Ways to Sleep Badly for the book club!!! Both the first book club for feministe and your first book club -- I&#039;m honored...

And I like what you picked up about the theme of broken bodies, and especially the contradictions/potential lack of self-awareness the narrator faces in trying to heal her own body...

Denelian, so true about the way fibromyalgia is dismissed and mistreated, compounding the effects of the mistreatments that may cause the overwhelmed in the first place...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie, thanks so much for choosing So Many Ways to Sleep Badly for the book club!!! Both the first book club for feministe and your first book club &#8212; I&#8217;m honored&#8230;</p>
<p>And I like what you picked up about the theme of broken bodies, and especially the contradictions/potential lack of self-awareness the narrator faces in trying to heal her own body&#8230;</p>
<p>Denelian, so true about the way fibromyalgia is dismissed and mistreated, compounding the effects of the mistreatments that may cause the overwhelmed in the first place&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: denelian</title>
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		<dc:creator>denelian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i also haven&#039;t gotten to the book, but i wanted to try and talk about one thing.

you mentioned the apparent relaionship between incest and physical pain.

i was raped at 5 by a family friend, and then for years by my step-father. i was diagnosed with Acute Intermitent Porphyria when i was nine, fibronalgia and rhumetory arthritis at 15. and the second two, the diagnoses INCLUDED th fact that i had been sexually abused. the rhumetologist who diagnosed me didn&#039;t actually believe in fibromalgia, he thought that it was an expression of the mental ills that happen when one has been sexually abused.
which, by the way, is total bullshit, evidenced by the fact that some pain meds work and others don&#039;t (if no pain meds work i could see it being mental. if all worked, i could see it being mental at treatable by placebo effect...)

even worse, way too many doctors also think that fibro is a mental illness - not necissarily a result of abuse, but that showing the symptoms of fibro, the pain and sleep issues and everything, means that there is nothing &lt;i&gt;physically&lt;/i&gt; wrong with the person, they are just unsane (not necissarily INsane, just not as sane as everyone else). the fact that so many people with fibro develop depression (chronic pain causes chronic depression, that is just a FACT) makes the whole thing worse. doctors refuse to treat fibromalguia, and instead try to treat what they assume the problem to be. so i get spoken down to, told that its all in my head, ignored, neglected, mistreated and misdiagnosed... this perception problem on the part of doctors has almost killed me once, and led me to have to use a cane and/or a walker for over a year, becase NO ONE WOULD BELIEVE THERE WAS AN ISSUE. i had a neurologist say to me &quot;yes, you have areas of pin-point nerve death, but the reason you are in so much pain is because you are fat&quot;.
turn out i had displasia of the hip and needed a couple of surgeries to fix it. and it could have been fixed - easier and with less complications - WHEN I WAS 9, HAD ANYONE EVER BOTHERED TO LISTEN TO ME!!!!!

so... yes, it seems that a lot of people who were sexually abused develop fibro. but i know a far larger number of people with fibro who WEREN&#039;T abused and who DON&#039;T have mental health issues (except that all invariably develop depression from the pain). it appears, to me, to be a false correlation. and one that causes a LOT of harm. but one thing that may be true... most people who suffer chronic illness as children/teens think that they are suffering because they deserve to be punished. this was how it was with me (and lots of others i know). so when i was abused by my step father, i didn&#039;t say anything, i thought i &lt;i&gt;deserved&lt;/i&gt; it. people who are abusers are really good at finding people who will blame &lt;i&gt;themselves&lt;/i&gt; for the abuse, and that may explain the high correlation that appears to be present. if that makes sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i also haven&#8217;t gotten to the book, but i wanted to try and talk about one thing.</p>
<p>you mentioned the apparent relaionship between incest and physical pain.</p>
<p>i was raped at 5 by a family friend, and then for years by my step-father. i was diagnosed with Acute Intermitent Porphyria when i was nine, fibronalgia and rhumetory arthritis at 15. and the second two, the diagnoses INCLUDED th fact that i had been sexually abused. the rhumetologist who diagnosed me didn&#8217;t actually believe in fibromalgia, he thought that it was an expression of the mental ills that happen when one has been sexually abused.<br />
which, by the way, is total bullshit, evidenced by the fact that some pain meds work and others don&#8217;t (if no pain meds work i could see it being mental. if all worked, i could see it being mental at treatable by placebo effect&#8230;)</p>
<p>even worse, way too many doctors also think that fibro is a mental illness &#8211; not necissarily a result of abuse, but that showing the symptoms of fibro, the pain and sleep issues and everything, means that there is nothing <i>physically</i> wrong with the person, they are just unsane (not necissarily INsane, just not as sane as everyone else). the fact that so many people with fibro develop depression (chronic pain causes chronic depression, that is just a FACT) makes the whole thing worse. doctors refuse to treat fibromalguia, and instead try to treat what they assume the problem to be. so i get spoken down to, told that its all in my head, ignored, neglected, mistreated and misdiagnosed&#8230; this perception problem on the part of doctors has almost killed me once, and led me to have to use a cane and/or a walker for over a year, becase NO ONE WOULD BELIEVE THERE WAS AN ISSUE. i had a neurologist say to me &#8220;yes, you have areas of pin-point nerve death, but the reason you are in so much pain is because you are fat&#8221;.<br />
turn out i had displasia of the hip and needed a couple of surgeries to fix it. and it could have been fixed &#8211; easier and with less complications &#8211; WHEN I WAS 9, HAD ANYONE EVER BOTHERED TO LISTEN TO ME!!!!!</p>
<p>so&#8230; yes, it seems that a lot of people who were sexually abused develop fibro. but i know a far larger number of people with fibro who WEREN&#8217;T abused and who DON&#8217;T have mental health issues (except that all invariably develop depression from the pain). it appears, to me, to be a false correlation. and one that causes a LOT of harm. but one thing that may be true&#8230; most people who suffer chronic illness as children/teens think that they are suffering because they deserve to be punished. this was how it was with me (and lots of others i know). so when i was abused by my step father, i didn&#8217;t say anything, i thought i <i>deserved</i> it. people who are abusers are really good at finding people who will blame <i>themselves</i> for the abuse, and that may explain the high correlation that appears to be present. if that makes sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t read the book yet, I have about twelve other books I have to read for a course, but this one is going on the reading list.  I&#039;m really interested in the themes about sleep and the &quot;broken down&quot; body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read the book yet, I have about twelve other books I have to read for a course, but this one is going on the reading list.  I&#8217;m really interested in the themes about sleep and the &#8220;broken down&#8221; body.</p>
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