If only the economy would kill Uggs.

I’m with Tatiana — Uggs are the kind of stupid crap I hoped the economy would kill. And yet they will not die.

I get it, they’re comfortable. If you wear them with your PJs to walk your dog at 6am, ok. If you wear them as slippers, ok. If you wear them because you’ve had them forever and it’s cold and snowy out and you’re going to change into real shoes as soon as you reach your destination, ok.

But wearing them as real clothes? Or even worse, in a hot climate with a miniskirt? Ugh (If you will).

Uggs are my long-time most-hated clothing item — they even beat out leggings as pants (and leggings are not pants, people). If I could encourage the economy to eliminate one thing, it would be the purchase of new Uggs. I assumed that Uggs would die out months after their peak in popularity, which I think was circa 2002. But no. And it doesn’t appear to be a case of people recycling old shoes — people are buying new Uggs, and the company is booming. And those things aren’t cheap — someone out there is paying $300 to put their foot into this.

While Uggs clearly tops out, I would also add furry boots in general, Crocs, Tory Burch flats, mandals, adult onesies (or “rompers”), denim shorts on men, super high-waisted jeans, super low-waisted jeans, cheesy bangs, gladiator sandals, and hyper-monogrammed bags to the list of trends I wish would die a quick death.

What would you kill off in 2009?

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115 comments for “If only the economy would kill Uggs.

  1. January 13, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    Crocs. I know you already said it, but damn I hate those things. What’s the point of plastic shoes if there are holes so they can’t even be waterproof? And they are beyond ugly.

    I think the biggest thing I’d kill off is ugly maternity clothes. OMG they are the worst.

  2. Kat
    January 13, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    Man. I would add something… but I think you’ve covered it.
    Perhaps purses that fit small dogs? I’d love to never see a woman carrying around her dog in her purse while she is out running around after her manicure ever again.

  3. January 13, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    Why would anyone think a good name for a product is “Ugg”? I will have to give some thought as to what I would have the economy kill off. Mayby torture porn like the Saw franchise.

  4. akeeyu
    January 13, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    Wardrobe dissonance in general:
    “O hai! I must wear a big poofy coat with a huge fur hood! And shorts!”

    Sweats with writing on the ass. Especially for young children.

    “Property of” shirts.

    Giant sunglasses that make you (yes, YOU TOO) look like a bug.

    Pink onesies that say “Does this diaper make my butt look big??” No, honey, but it makes your parents look like stupid assholes.

  5. buddy cole
    January 13, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    Jill dahling… try to be a bit more perceptive, more culturally sensitive. Denim shorts, specifically cut-offs fill an important cultural role for a certain set of gay men

  6. January 13, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    Interesting… I was more thinking of all the hipster dudes who wear them around my neighborhood, but you present a good point.

  7. leah
    January 13, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    My husband and I own and operate a shoe store, and I can guarantee you the economy is killing Crocs. They have priced themselves out of independent retailers (we can only buy them in vast quantities no sane businessowner would) so the only place you’ll be able to find them starting the next year or so (they started this pricing fall quarter) is at those mall kiosks. As for Uggs, they’ll be around for a while (and I hope they stay around! Uggs and Smartwool are keeping our business afloat). But they’re not that warm (well not for our MN climate) and certainly not supportive…they’re fashion not function (and I agree totally hideous). One could do much better for winter footwear. I’d suggest the wool-lined jungle moc by merrell. Costs less, is more supportive, warmer and guaranteed waterproof. Enough of that though.

    I will have to agree with akeeyu on the ass-writing and the sexist onesies.

    I see plaid, flannel shirts coming back but with tuxedo-style ruffles. I hope those die a swift and horrible death.

    Leggings. OMG this is not the 80’s people! Let’s not revisit it! It was bad!

    The “smokey eye” look that has everyone looking like they have black eyes.

    Emo/vamp fashion. I have to agree with South Park here. They ruined Goth.

  8. Tom Foolery
    January 13, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    gladiator sandals

    We disagree on a lot of things, Jill, but this shall not stand.

  9. AnnaBella
    January 13, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    I totally second the hyper-monogrammed bags, especially the Louis Vuitton ones. I’ve never understood what would attract anyone to a bag that costs more than rent, but particularly when it pertains to an ugly, tacky brown-and-gold monstrosity like those things.

    Also, Crocs make people look like ducks with colourful feet.

  10. January 13, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    i second buddy cole on the importance of cut-off denim shorts for queers in general and gay men in particular.

  11. Ron O.
    January 13, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    It was dead at the mall last Sunday. We had a salesperson’s attention the moment we entered, except at Norstrom’s Ugg display. There were at least 12 women trying them on, Spouse included. Those things were not on sale; while practically everything else at the mall was. I’m glad she opted for a different warm boot, in black, for under $100 with all the furry goodness on the inside. It is freaking cold and snowy this winter here, so she does need a good warm boot.

    I won though, with my 2 for $99 Clarks.

    May through September you can pull my sandals off my cold, dead feet. I would not wear those hideous things you linked to however, so I’ll second you in banning those.

    Any kind of branding effort tied to clothing really irks me. I’m not impressed by logos. I hate that clothes without Spiderman or Dora tie-ins can be hard to find and more expensive. My kids aren’t your billboard. It is a little easier for little girls than boys, as long as you like pink. so as long as we are banning, lets ban gender-driven color palates for our children.

  12. Ron O.
    January 13, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    For the record the Spiderman and Dora clothes are in reference to the kids. I hardly ever wear them.

  13. Michelle
    January 13, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    I’m not sure if other people have seen them, but even worse than Crocs is the winter Crocs they’ve come out with (Google image search if needed). I’ve mostly just seen them in kids’ sizes, but seriously people, if it is cold enough to need to put furry lining in your kid’s crocs, then you need to put REAL SHOES on your kids. Furry crocs are not a substitute for winter boots (especially in Canada).

  14. JPlum
    January 13, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    Slouchy leather handbags. They remind me of high school, and they irk me.

    Micro-minis. I shop at Old Navy, as there aren’t a lot of options for the size 18 girl if she wants something inexpensive. And on the rare occasions that Old Navy actually has skirts, they are practically invitations to perform a gynocological exam.

    Capris. Okay, I don’t object to the actual capris, just the impossibility of finding full-length pants at any point during the capri ‘season’.

  15. JPlum
    January 13, 2009 at 4:05 pm

    Michelle, those furry-lined crocs actually make excellent slippers, which is their only excuse.

  16. fauzia
    January 13, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    omfg. tory burch flats must go. at first i didn’t know what they were, so i had to click on the link. and then i recognized them…oh sweet lord, they must vanish this instant!

  17. fauzia
    January 13, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    p.s. pete wentz just weirds me out in general.

  18. January 13, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    Yeah, Tory Burch flats are just so… midtown. I can’t take them. And Pete Wentz is awful generally.

  19. Banisteriopsis
    January 13, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    I saw a girl walking the other day wearing plaid uggs, shorts, and a sweatshirt, in 85 degree weather. You know how sometimes people can look so awful they cycle back around to awesome? That was totally her.

  20. AshKW
    January 13, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    Mmm, great list you guys. Totally agree with Uggs and writing-on-the-ass sweats. How about those purses that are a seeming nonstop collection of oversized sequins? Have they been included? I hope they die. Oh, and the shirts that are extra-long. Those so TOTALLY suck for those of us who have hips. And anything made in that soft, clingy fabric should be ritually burned.

  21. GallingGalla
    January 13, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    What I’d kill off: babydoll tank tops. Color me a prude, but I think lingerie belongs in the bedroom.

    Luna @1: Gotta agree about the crocs. Horrible, ugly, senseless things.

    However, my Uggs are my warmest boots evah, and you shall pry them from my cold, dead legs. Same with my super low waisted jeans. :P!!!

    Note, however, that I’m not dumb enough to wear a cold-weather boot – of any kind – with a warm-weather skirt. Also, to fellow wearers of super low waisted jeans: you either gotta be *totally* unselfconscious, or failing that, there is that amazing clothing invention known as a tunic top, or that other amazing clothing invention known as a shirt that’s long enough to tuck in. I’d recommend one of those to the young woman in the photo.

    And someone want to tell Chadwick’s that their demographic ain’t so much into jeans / pants that rise above the navel anymore?

  22. GallingGalla
    January 13, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    Oh, can I add: Men’s shorts (and pants) that are so big and baggy that you can hide a child in each leg? Dudes, those shorts make you look like you’ve got twigs for legs.

  23. marilove
    January 13, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    I live in Phoenix, AZ. Today’s high is going to be about 73 degrees.

    And … you see women wear Uggs. When it’s 73 degrees out.

    I’m like … … ?

  24. Ashley
    January 13, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    Leggings as pants, tacky shapeless knit dresses (that I see everywhere!), maternity-esque fashion on non-pregnant women (what’s the point? Ashamed of your non-existent waist?), skinny jeans because they don’t look good on anyone over the age of 15, and particularly skinny jeans on men.

  25. January 13, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    I must say, those things look much more comfortable than my current pain-in-the-ass snowboots. I’m not familiar with the brand, but since I have to wear snowboots everyday here in Iowa and am starting to develop foot problems, when I saw the picture I thought maybe I’d buy a pair. But then I thought they’d be $20. Three hundred? Really?

  26. January 13, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    Ha. I looooove skinny jeans, especially on men. Just not the super super super tight ones. And I wear them, despite having wide hips and thick thighs — I just wear the ones that aren’t too tapered at the ankle, and always under boots or with heels.

    GallingGalla, I wear low-rise jeans too, because that’s really all they make now. Just not that low-rise. And I’m with you on super-baggy shorts. I actually kind of hate shorts on men generally, which is weird, because I find men’s legs really attractive. If they would walk around in drag-shorts, I’d be fine. But normal shorts, especially denim or khaki? Not feeling it.

  27. marilove
    January 13, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    Michelle — I have a pair of “fur”-lined Crocs! That are awesome and comfortable! AND ALSO SLIPPERS! Not shoes, but SLIPPERS! I live in an apartment complex, and I hate having to put on shoes just to take out the trash, and most slippers are too soft. They are also great when I need to do laundry, which is in a facility on the other side of the complex. Or when I need to run to McD’s for a shake. But they are not real shoes!

  28. marilove
    January 13, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    Ashley, I love shirts that are kind of maternity-esque! They usually fit better and look really great on someone with my frame — short, very curvy, with huge breasts. It’s like a mini-babydoll, maybe? I don’t know, but I have several shirts in that style and I love them.

  29. Callie
    January 13, 2009 at 5:40 pm

    I have to disagree with the disdain toward comfort expressed on this list. Wide-footed gals like me, who can’t wear most shoes, have only Ugg-type boots and Crocs to turn to when bunions get bad. Have some mercy, people. Not all of us can fit into cute little slivers of shoes. And trying to find special sizes in normal shoes is an expensive pain in the ass.

    As for leggings as pants: personally I wouldn’t wear them with a short top, but they’re super comfortable. Why all the censure for women’s comfortable clothing?

  30. Ursula L
    January 13, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    I’m with Callie – I have big problems with treating women’s “comfortable” shoes (and clothes) as somehow not “real.”

    I’ve got wide feet, and I can spend weeks just looking for a pair of shoes that fit over my feet. (Even Crocs don’t fit me properly.) I’ve lost jobs because the shoes I was wearing (plain black leather lace-up shoes) were considered “unprofessional” for a woman, and violating the dress code. My feet are healthy, because I’ll only buy and wear shoes that fit well, so I had no doctor’s note saying that my feet were damaged enough to require orthopedic shoes. (What a catch-22 – wear ill-fitting shoes until your feet are damaged enough that a doctor will say they’re too damaged so you can wear the shoes that, if you’d worn them all along, your feet wouldn’t be damaged in the first place.)

    These shoes were not that different from shoes that men were allowed to wear professionally – but because I’m a woman, “fit” and “availablity” were somehow not supposed to be considerations in my choice of footwear.

    If Uggs are comfortable shoes that don’t crush women’s feet into unnatural and unhealthy shapes, I’m all for them being fashionable. If I wasn’t allergic to wool, I’d probably be wearing them myself. (At least the flat-soled ones, like the pink ones at the top of the post.)

    And I’m somewhat shocked to see something as judgemental about clothing here at Feministe. Being expected to wear impractical, uncomfortable or unsafe clothing to look “right” is a major way in which women are oppressed. The demands of fashion cost women money (you “need” to buy more shoes, more outfits, more makeup than a man doing the same job.) The fashion industry doesn’t need the feminists to be doing their enforcement for them.

  31. Kristin
    January 13, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    “But wearing them as real clothes? Or even worse, in a hot climate with a miniskirt? Ugh (If you will).”

    Yes, this. It was 70 degrees outside on Christmas, and my 14 year old cousin wore them with shorts.

  32. lilacsigil
    January 13, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    Just remember – if you wear Uggs as a fashion statement, Australians are laughing at you.

  33. NancyP
    January 13, 2009 at 7:08 pm

    Clogs with holes “breathe” better than those without holes, although there are better imaginable designs for the holes, perhaps high on the side. Depending on your arch support needs, the different brands of plastic clogs are great for hospital workers (nurses, operating and delivery rooms, laboratory, morgue) and food service workers. I am a laboratorian, and swear by my plain black no-holes Birkenstocks – plenty of support, and when the human tissue/ fluid hits the toe, 10% bleach disinfects just fine. The downside is puddle water, non-shoveled snow, salt/ gravel/ sand getting into backless clogs. Birks are pricey, but cheaper than either podiatrists or cheaper shoes with the necessary orthotics.

    UGGs are a little wussy for cold weather outdoors work. I’ll take a Vibram lug-soled, heavy wool-felt lined, goretexed or greased leather lace-up with integral tongue, in a size meant to accommodate heaviest winter sock set.

    I liked those stretch stirrup pants (tight), with long sweater or tunic covering butt.

  34. William
    January 13, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    I don’t really want to ban anything. I’d just like to be able to wear a kilt out in public without having to (unsuccessfully) rely on the fact that I look like a bear in combat boots to hold back the ignorant comments.

  35. January 13, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    Loudly patterned flannel pajama pants as regular pants. *shudder* It was bad enough as a ‘cool teen’ thing but now I’m even seeing adults wearing them. IT MUST STOP!!!

  36. anonymous
    January 13, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    Third wave alpha-feminists are allowed to judge other women’s fashion choices.

  37. January 13, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    Personally I’d be happy if earrings for earlobe stretching went out. Agree with the low waist jeans, but esp on guys. I like to see a butt where the back pockets are. I’m sure I’m dating myself with both of these…

  38. January 13, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    In the 1990s I had a half dozen or so Korean Swap Market purchased fake Louis Vuitton bags. I liked running down the trademark luxury value by carrying them on the bus and to punk clubs

  39. She-cago
    January 13, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    nooooooooooooo!!!!! not the crocs! what would I wear if I didn’t have them…

  40. Angiportus
    January 13, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    What I want to see killed off is people who squawk so loud about other folks’ silly (?) fashion choices. I see a lot of things I don’t particularly care for but I don’t act like it was some sort of crime. LIghten up about these things you consider odd-looking. You don’t like something, don’t wear it, but don’t tell the rest of us what we should wear. I had hoped that in a feminist blog we would hear more tolerance for items not actually causing physical harm. Especially when in some cases people are losing their jobs for not wearing something that does not suit them. They do NOT need any lack of support from this sector.
    Some people can’t tolerate cold, and wear furry boots in weather you or I might think too warm. You and I can just butt out. You don’t have to understand everything you see. We have enough crap to worry about without carrying on about clothes. If the popularity of item x causes item y to be hard to find and y is what you need, that is a problem, but it should be atoned for by the marketers, not the designers or wearers. I’m with Callie and Ursula.
    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, anyway.

  41. Cactus Wren
    January 13, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    Callie, UrsulaL, and me. And allow me, as a woman of size, to enter a vehement protest against nearly every “large-size” pattern in the Big Girl Knits books. Most of Moreno and Singer’s patterns are based on two ideas:

    a) that there’s nothing more attractive than a top that shows a four-inch gap at the hem every time your raise your arms to shoulder height (to double check, stand in front of a full length mirror and reach above your head, as if you’re reaching something down from a high shelf: if passers-by can see your bra, you’ve got it right);

    b) unless it’s a top that fits closely from shoulder to bust, or is gathered or smocked just below the bust, and falls loosely from there. Real women of size have a name for this look. We call it “maternity wear”.

  42. January 13, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    FUCK low rise pants!! Seriously! What’s wrong with a waistband that hits at or ever-so-slightly below the navel, hmm? If I wanted to show my ass crack, I’d drop my pants! Low-rise pants might look good on folks with hips, but I have the combination of narrow hips and high-ass that makes the low-rise option nonfunctional for me. Give me the traditional blue-jean cut and I’m good to go. Unless you have a certain amount of hip, low-rise pants have to be cinched too tight in order to keep your pants from hitting your ankles. Muffin top looks good on no one.

    And y’know, while I work out and look younger than my age, I’m still 41. I don’t really dig clothing choices that amount to making me look like I’m 41-desperately-trying-to-look-14. The cropped blouse/low-rise pants combination designed to show the bare belly aren’t workable outside the gym for those of us Of A Certain Age. Also, outside the beach, pool or gym, I’m not anxious to display my dark, semi-keloid emergency C-section scar that goes from my navel to my pubic hair. “Eww, what’s that?!” isn’t what I want to hear when I’m trying to look good.

    Too short shirts. For fuck’s sake, is it asking too much to find a woman’s shirt that doesn’t show half your belly when you lift your arms up shoulder-height? The problem with buying men’s shirts instead is that the arms are too long and the neck is too big. Dammit, I’m ready to see the short-shirt trend fucking END already.

    But what I really wish the economy would kill is those fucking “reality TV” shows. GAAAHHH!

    (oh, and denim shorts on men can be GREAT depending on the man that has them on. Men with thighs the same size or slightly bigger than their knees shouldn’t wear them, but on a guy with nice thighs? Yeah, baby!)

  43. Mel
    January 13, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    Um, do people who don’t work in offices with sexist dress codes actually take an extra pair of shoes and lug around a pair of outdoor boots at work/school/etc. when it snows? I don’t wear Uggs (when it snows I either wear English riding boots–oh horror, the fashion faux pas–or some lace-up leather shoes, both purchased at Goodwill), but I also don’t change my shoes at my destination when it snows so as not to offend anyone by wearing riding boots and jeans. Sorry, not going to inconvenience myself because of the fashion police.

    Thank you, Callie, Ursula L., and Angiportus.

  44. AZ Escapee
    January 13, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    Lay off the Crocs. I live in a tropical valley that gets rain every day. Crocs are plastic and have holes, so (unlike leather) they don’t deform when wet and they dry quickly. They’re a bit slippery once the tread wears off, but they’re incredibly comfortable and offer lots more cushioning than our customary footwear, rubber zori (AKA slippahs). Who cares what they look like—they feel great!

  45. January 13, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    Crocs are beyond practical if you live in the right places. Not all of them have holes, and they are nigh indestructible as a shoe, which is a plus if you kids are hard on shoes, like mine is. We had a pair like Mary Janes that went through two first graders before the small element broke. They are the best and most practical shoe I ever had in Hawai’i. I can see how they wouldn’t be as appreciated outside of the islands. But they are the best works shoe, and one of the only things that didn’t make me want to die when my fibro was flaring up.

    But I used to taunt girls who would wear those ugly Uggs to school in Hawai’i w/ mini skirts, b/c I know their feet had to get sweaty by ten in the morning when it hits about 80, even if it was chilly (by Hawai’i standards) in the morning. Those are some ugly and impractical shoes, in or out of Hawai’i.

  46. Lyndsay
    January 13, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    “I’m sure I’m dating myself with both of these…”

    I’ve seen jeans too low on guys in the last two years. I also saw this at least 7 years ago when I was a young teenager. Some things don’t go away very easily. But other than not wanting to see people’s underwear I don’t really care what people wear. Uggs is an odd name but surely they aren’t all $300. I don’t really get wearing boots that need to be sprayed or else they will let water soak right through when you’re in a place with lots of snow and slush (some boots look like big socks) but if people like them, that’s up to them.

  47. January 13, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    I know everybody hates Crocs because they’re ugly, but they are a godsend for people with problem feet/chronic pain like myself.

    I don’t really care that my orange Crocs make me look like a duck. It’s that, or be uncomfortable with every step that I take.

  48. evil_fizz
    January 13, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    I looooove skinny jeans, especially on men. Just not the super super super tight ones.

    Oh, Jill. Skinny jeans are evil. Even the “looser” ones are too close to legging land.

  49. NancyP
    January 13, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    Ursula L. , how about getting a note from the pedorthist at a “comfort” / orthopedic shoe store? Or a podiatrist? Few people have perfect feet. There may be degrees of disability required to qualify for medical insurance payment for orthopedic shoes, but not for use of properly fitting shoes.

    Unless there is an obvious requirement for wearing high heels (eg, runway model, dominatrix porn actress, band backup player/singer, woman who drapes herself over car at car show, etc), I’d think that filing a note with HR and ccing it to the boss ought to be sufficient to fix the problem. I realize that women’s antidiscrimination cases have taken hits, eg, the Vegas croupier who was required to wear a lot of makeup per casino regulations for female employees, but the ADA is still around, and if you have any pain, numbness, or poor circulation on standing or walking for an 8 or more hour work day, I’d think that you’d qualify. After all, any diabetic, with or without any degree of neuropathy, has to wear the same type of shoe you describe.

  50. buddy cole
    January 13, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    again, i have to intrude to add a gay man’s perspective on things; though they may have the body shape to wear them, most men with even average endowments will find that skinny jeans lead to uncomfortable situations.i have seen them worn to great effect by cute rocker boys, but i worried for those hunk’s equipment.

  51. January 13, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    The most egregious use of Uggs I have seen (this was maybe two months ago) was a girl who decided that since it was blizzarding out, she should put them on her feet to go with her silver-sequined mini(skirt). After seeing that, I understand the denim skirt/ugg combination more.

    As someone with terrible circulation and some taste, I can understand how that might happen, and I wish wish wish there were attractive shoes under which socks could be worn.

  52. B
    January 13, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Actually, Uggs in Australia (land of origin, along with Crocs–thanks, Oz) are slippers. They are actually marketed, and sold, as slippers. My Australian sister-in-law was visiting, and she was shocked to see people on the street during daytime who were otherwise normally dressed wearing Uggs. Understandably, no one in Australia would be caught dead in them, unless maybe for a quick run to the store for some milk in your “trackie-daks” (track pants). Like Rupert Murdoch and Mel Gibson, it seems like Australia’s really into producing crap they foist off on the rest of the world but have better sense than to use themselves.
    Ugliness and lack of practicality aside (no, they would not hold up as actual winter footwear in a very cold or rainy climate), they are ridiculously expensive. Seems like there’s lots of other footwear in the slipper/shoe category that would provide better protection, more warmth, and cost a fraction of what an Ugg does. Ditto Crocs–I get why you’d want them in a warm climate, but plastic shoes have been around forever for a fraction of the price.

  53. January 13, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    Third wave alpha-feminists are allowed to judge other women’s fashion choices.

    Well, to be fair, I’m judging women and men’s fashion choices.

    As for the people telling me to “lighten up”…. um. Just sayin’.

    The post was tongue in cheek. I swear I’m not trying to take away your comfy shoes. I too wear really ugly boots to work every day, but I love them. I also wear puke-tones with great affection, to the chagrin of many of my friends. And skinny jeans, to the chagrin of many of you. One of my closest friends wears furry clogs and onesies, and I tease her mercilessly (and she makes fun of my constant selection of the ugliest colors at the store). It’s fashion mockery in good fun.

  54. Mina
    January 13, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    I’m tired of those studded “rockstar” belts. Sure, they looked cool the first time I saw them. When I was 19. Now every emo/hipster/diet goth/whatever kid has one and totes it around like they’re some kind of badass because they mom bought it for them. Woohoo. My mom buys me things, too. Look how special you are.

    Also they look really bad when someone’s pasty white muffin top is spilling over them.

    Also Ramones merchandizing being worn by kids who only know “Blitzkreig Bop” because it gets played over the loudspeakers at baseball games.

  55. Ursula L
    January 13, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    Nancy P., I considered getting a note, but frankly, given how health insurance is, should I develop foot problems in the future, I don’t want a notation in my medical record that foot problems are a pre-existing condition (and may not be covered.)

    My feet are 100% healthy. And I can (and do) buy non-orthopedic shoes. I just choose them very carefully, for good fit. Brands like Birkenstock Footprints, SAS or Clarks will generally run at least one style that will fit me. Although not necessarily a popular style carried by most stores that have the brands. It takes time and effort to find, but not a prescripiton or an occupational therapist.

    It is just wrong to have to get a doctor’s note for completely healthy feet, or to have to make excuses for wearing perfectly normal practical and properly fitted shoes.

    And even if you can work something out with HR, it doesn’t do much good when you’re walking in for a job interview and people have expectations about shoes or clothes that require excuses and explanations when you ought to be spending your time discussing how you can actually do the work the job requires.

    If I was applying for a job, and saw that the boss had written a blog post about clothes and shoes like the one here, I’d probably be consider the workplace one that is likely to be hostile.

  56. BWB
    January 13, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    But 15 year olds LOVE them!!!

  57. Callie
    January 13, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    “It’s fashion mockery in good fun.”

    While I’m sure it’s unintentional, the post does seem aimed at women who can’t fit in to conventional, uncomfortable shoes and clothing. These fashion posts always seem very un-Feministe. If women want to wear miniskirts and ugly boots, so what?

  58. January 13, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    Hey now, back off the Crocs- I work in an aviation museum and the hard hangar floor was killing my back. Crocs make my work a whole heck of a lot less painful (though I change into steel-toed sneakers to handle big heavy rusty metal artifacts)!

    Carry on with the Uggs blasting though! ;)

  59. William
    January 13, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    I’m tired of those studded “rockstar” belts. Sure, they looked cool the first time I saw them. When I was 19. Now every emo/hipster/diet goth/whatever kid has one and totes it around like they’re some kind of badass because they mom bought it for them. Woohoo

    Shhh, let them have their studded belts. If they have to go looking for a new badass belt type they might steel bandoleers from black metal and then you’ll have to hear a bunch of whiny guys in bad make-up complaining who are even less well-adjusted than your average goth or punk.

  60. Mireille
    January 13, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    Another vote for Crocs. Wearing cheap plastic shoes… sure, they’re ugly as all get out, but I can’t believe they’re more comfortable than say… A pair of slip on Vans or something. They make no sense to me.

  61. January 13, 2009 at 11:28 pm

    I wear these hot pink moccasins to work that everyone kind of looks at sidelong and sighs, but FTW!!!!!!1!! THEY R TEH AWESOME!

    I still won’t be caught wearing Uggs/Crocs.

  62. Torri
    January 14, 2009 at 12:10 am

    I am sick to death of all the summer dresses these days being sinch-under-the-boobs maternity look. I live in Australia and it gets HOT and I like to wear dresses when hot but these dresses make me feel like I’m trying to pass off chubby for pregnant!
    At least give me the option of something with a waist!

    another thing I never want to see? People wearing thongs* in winter! honestly I’ve seen girls wearing them in the rain! wth?

    *thongs as in shoes… I believe Americans call them flip flops or something?

  63. evil_fizz
    January 14, 2009 at 12:16 am

    If I was applying for a job, and saw that the boss had written a blog post about clothes and shoes like the one here, I’d probably be consider the workplace one that is likely to be hostile.

    Because the boss thinks that knee high shearling boots and miniskirts are not an appropriate combo? Or that orange plastic shoes are not appropriate for an office with a business casual dress code? I can understand issues with respect to health concerns, but the world is full of sartorial stupidity and ridiculous trends. I’m inclined to think of this in the latter category rather than the former. YMMV.

    If someone wants to walk around with a bunch of accessories plastered with the word Juicy, that’s their prerogative. But office dress codes, paragon of feminist thought though they are not, are perfectly legal and enforceable. Requiring a certain degree of yuppie conformity just doesn’t seem to rise to the level of workplace hostility.

  64. Banisteriopsis
    January 14, 2009 at 12:51 am

    For the wide footed people, Rocket Dog shoes are generally built wider than normal.

  65. Ursula L
    January 14, 2009 at 1:07 am


    Because if shearling boots, or plastic shoes, are what fits my feet without causing damage, I shouldn’t have to face a fight, or contemplate getting a doctor to lie and say I have a medical condition I don’t have, just to be able to earn a living.

    The problem is that “comfortable” is discounted as a valuable quality for shoes, and is instead set up in opposition to “real” or appropriate footwear. (“I get it they’re comfortable…” but “…you’re going to change into real shoes as soon as you reach your destination.”)

    If someone is openly contemptuous about women wearing “comfortable” shoes, and expects the “comfortable” shoes to be abandoned for “real” shoes, then yes, it is hostile. Because there is no way that anything that fits my feet will meet any definition of “real” women’s professional shoes. And an employer who expects such shoes will be a constant struggle, demanding that I wear shoes that don’t exist (women’s professional shoes that fit my feet) or that I lie and fake a medical condition and “foot problem” I don’t have.

    If someone is this harsh about what people wear a casual shoes, what can I expect when I interview with them for a position as an attorney in their law firm, wearing my heavy black leather lace-up shoes? Is it even worth showing up at the interview, or will I be judged and rejected based on the biases of shoe companies towards making shoes that aren’t shaped like my feet?

  66. January 14, 2009 at 1:11 am

    What’s with the comments saying it’s antifeminist to joke about clothing? It seems clear the intent here isn’t to put down comfortable things, as the clothing mentioned ranges in terms of comfort.

    So far, I’m guilty of a bunch of things on the list, and I still think it’s funny. I love my furry boots, and wore them to take my kid snow-tubing this past weekend when all the other parents were in practical boots and likely thought I was frivolous and porny (and they’d be right). Also like leggings (with the aforementioned furry boots and long sweaters). And I have been known to purchase crocs for my daughter. Finally, I recently bought a pair of crocs with heels and wore them with a bathing suit and cover-up out in public. I’m still hanging on to my feminist card!

  67. exholt
    January 14, 2009 at 1:14 am

    But office dress codes, paragon of feminist thought though they are not, are perfectly legal and enforceable. Requiring a certain degree of yuppie conformity just doesn’t seem to rise to the level of workplace hostility.

    Though it may be legal….I really wish office dress codes….especially ones which are extremely formal are completely killed off. There is a reason why my friends and I call formal corporate-style clothing “monkey suits”.

    Nearly everyone I’ve met who obsessive about wearing them/forcing others to wear them were people who were attempting to mask some perceived intellectual deficiency…..whether they’d be lawyers, business execs, or undergrad/grad business students……

    Though nearly everyone has said such formal corporate-style clothes actually look good on me, I’ve always felt the need to rip them off as soon as the workday/occasion is over with as I feel wearing them even one second longer would mean losing more intelligence points than I’m willing to part with.

  68. RacyT
    January 14, 2009 at 1:33 am

    OK — as a woman with enormous feet, I must defend: I have these Crocs — they are my “it’s crazy hot but it’s raining and I don’t want to destroy my good sandals in the rain” shoes (also good for the pool and spa) http://shop.crocs.com/pc-1185-4-adara.aspx?navcategories=3,121

    I also have SuperFit waterproof good-to-minus-40-celcius boots (necessary in the capital of Canada). Awesome if you can get them. Warm and stylish.

    I’m really mostly against revisionist ’80s fashion. It was hideous the first time kids, maybe you don’t remember but I do. Put away the legwarmers, gold lame leggings, and headbands. Please.

  69. January 14, 2009 at 2:41 am

    Please don’t tell me gladiator sandals are out. I walked round Thessaloniki till I had blisters on my blisters just to get my wife a pair (they don’t sell them here in Turkey and Greece was the nearest place, as well as adding that classical touch).

  70. akeeyu
    January 14, 2009 at 3:23 am

    Crap. Because I’m a feminist, I can’t hold or express negative opinions about ugly shoes? I had no idea. Maybe this is why so many women in the public eye are sly about whether or not they’re feminists: They still want to snark about ugly shoes in peace.

    …and yeah, tongue mostly in cheek here, but am slightly tired of the “Feminists must/must not be/do/think this” line.

    For the record, I think Crocs look ludicrous on EVERYONE, not just women.

  71. The Amazing Kim
    January 14, 2009 at 3:56 am

    Just remember – if you wear Uggs as a fashion statement, Australians are laughing at you.

    You’ve obviously never been to Brisbane.

    So this is basically an exercise in disparaging the cultural signifiers of the lower socio-economic classes? Fair enough.

    I hope the economic doom encourages more environmentally conscious lifestyles, and compassion for individuals struggling financially. I hope people aren’t too cruel to their pets once money becomes tight. I’d kill music company hegemony so a larger range of music would be available to more people. I’d kill off veal factories in general and large cars for people in urban areas.

    And I friggin love long-trousered rompers.

  72. Alice
    January 14, 2009 at 4:23 am

    I find it so funny that ugg boots are a fashion item, they’ve been around for about 20 years here in NZ. I used to have a fantastic pair with a thick plastic sole with lots of grip. Putting them on after skiing was bliss, but I wore them out about 3 years ago and haven’t been able to find anything to match them. Yes, they’re not for super cold climates, and they’re not for all-day wear. They’re slippers.

    Crocs are also ugly, but since jandals hurt my feet and I can’t seem to keep slides on, they’re the best poolside shoe I’ve found. Everything has it’s place.

    I’d love to say goodbye to those empire line tops and dresses, the ones that just end up making everyone look pregnant.

  73. rengeko
    January 14, 2009 at 4:34 am

    i have recently started wearing earth shoes in the interest of correcting my posture which was causing excruciating lower back pain. they are terribly expensive and funny looking. however, since i can now walk and stand without pain, everyone who thinks i’m crazy for paying that can fuck off. and in fact, i will be buying more.

  74. rengeko
    January 14, 2009 at 4:34 am

    i do agree on the uggs being hideous, though.

  75. Alice
    January 14, 2009 at 5:15 am

    And for my wide, high arched feet and supinating ankles, I love Kumfs orthotic friendly shoes.

  76. January 14, 2009 at 5:49 am

    Fashion is there to be snarked at. I LOVE my monogrammed Marc Jacobs satchel – it fits everything I need it to fit, the straps never hurt my shoulder, it never gets dirty – but I don’t get offended when people point out that it looks like a crumpled-up newspaper, especially when I lug it around to clubs.

    Same thing about Uggs. Uggs are not warm enough for when I go visit my parents in wintry Ukraine, but I did find a good pair of Chooka boots that served the same purpose nicely. They were pink, and frequently work with mini-skirts by yours truly – I loved the way they made my legs look. It IS a pretty hilarious fashion trend, though, and one that refuses to die.

    What would I kill? Well, high-waisted anything just creeps me out. And makes me feel very sad and hopeless.

  77. Kristin
    January 14, 2009 at 8:32 am

    Okay, about this:

    “While I’m sure it’s unintentional, the post does seem aimed at women who can’t fit in to conventional, uncomfortable shoes and clothing.”

    Sheesh. Hi, I have bad feet. Bones fused together, trouble walking up hills and stairs, need orthotics, cannot walk in heels. The thing about Uggs and Crocs is that they have no support and are no kind of Ideal Comfortable Shoe. Also, it’s true, they’re ugly.

    When I can find then at greatly reduced prices, I wear Danskos and Keens. Dansko clogs are the only shoes that fit my foot’s arch (which isn’t where it’s supposed to be, I’m told) without the use of orthotics. I hear Merrells are are good too, but they don’t fit me very well. Point being, there are options far cheaper (and better for “women who can’t wear uncomfortable shoes”) than Uggs. Also, more attractive options. Jeez…

    Also, the trend of wearing Uggs in warm Southern climates is breeding a generation with very bad athlete’s foot. One does not need a fashionable pair of snow boots in North Carolina–at least not outside the mountains, where it almost never snows.

  78. marilove
    January 14, 2009 at 9:26 am

    Ursula & Callie? It’s called snakers. Not crocks, not uggs. Sneakers. I have wide feet and bunions. I wear sneakers. And there are a LOT of shoe companies (including Payless!) that cater to wide feet. So I don’t accept that. “OH BUT IT IS SO COMFY I HAVE WIDE FEET!” Because I do, too, and some how … I can avoid uggs and crocs for regular footwear.

  79. marilove
    January 14, 2009 at 9:27 am

    Oh and yeah, Merrells are awesome! And comfy! I had a pair that I wore when I worked in printing, and I was on my feet all day running around and they were awesome. And comfortable. And not fucking ugly.

  80. marilove
    January 14, 2009 at 9:37 am

    Ursula, we didn’t say anything about comfortable shoes. We were talking about ugly shoes. There are plenty of comfortable shoes out there that aren’t Uggs or Crocs.

    You also don’t have “healthy feet” if you have bunions. I have bunions. They are not “perfectly healthy feet” — indeed, they will just get worse as the years goe on. Bunions aren’t normal or healthy. Many people have them, but they doesn’t mean you have healthy feet.

  81. marilove
    January 14, 2009 at 9:41 am

    also http://www.zappos.com




    You can find awesome, affordable shoes IN ALL WIDTHS and they do free shipping — including free returns! And if a shoe somehow breaks, they will almost ALWAYS return it.


    They get great reviews and people love them. Throw out your ugly uggs and find some comfortable AND non-ugly shoes. STAT!

    Also shoes that will actually work in winter climates, and give your feet support, which uggs don’t.

  82. Ursula L
    January 14, 2009 at 9:54 am

    Marilove – Payless’s “wide” shoes aren’t really wide. “Caters to wide” has to include more than just wide vs. normal – a line needs to run to at least double-wide, and even then I find that there is less than a 10% chance the shoe will actually fit.

    Crocs are too narrow for my feet. I wish I could wear them, it would at least give me a chance to choose the color of my shoes beyond “brown” or “black.” Uggs would fit (the lack of structure/support means that it will shape to my foot) but I can’t wear them because I’m allergic to wool. Most sneekers don’t fit, either. The toe box tends to be too narrow, and the support built into sneakers means they don’t give.

    If the shoe fits – wear it. That’s the only criteria I have for shoes. And even with that broad a standard, I only have four pairs (black shoes, sneakers, flip flops, winter boots.)

    If you don’t like the way a particular style of shoes looks and can find enough styles of shoes that fit so you can pick and choose based on style, you’re lucky. But there is no reason to be cruel or judgemental towards people who’s feet are less in allignment with the shoe industry’s idea of what feet should be shaped like.

    I’m not saying anyone should like crocs, uggs, or any other style of shoes. I’m saying people shouldn’t make assumptions or be judgmental, because those assumptions and judgements harm others.

    I’ve lost jobs because people are judgemental about what shoes are proper. As a woman, I’m held to a stricter, more unreasonable standard than men in the same job.

  83. Vail
    January 14, 2009 at 10:18 am

    I love high-waisted jeans!! I have a long torso and all jeans (expecially the low-waisted ones) hit me funny. What I wish is that we get rid of the “one size fits all” crap.

  84. Anna
    January 14, 2009 at 10:21 am

    Velour jumpsuits. Writing on the butt or not, they’ve gotta go.

  85. January 14, 2009 at 10:46 am

    but… but…. i LOVE gladiator sandles! And I wore my Uggs on chilly (not snowy) days until I accidentally shut my cat in the closet for the day and she used the furryness as her litter pan! It must have been quite soothing for her rear.

    The one thing I would love to see removed is the thought that any skirt hem above my knee must also be above my arse!

    Oh, and while we’re at it, howabout those t-shirts with the phrases like “born to shop” and other gendersteriotyping… ::shrug::

  86. cathy
    January 14, 2009 at 11:16 am

    I am sick of tight/stretch jeans. Where are the wide leg jeans? Where?

  87. January 14, 2009 at 11:18 am

    So this is basically an exercise in disparaging the cultural signifiers of the lower socio-economic classes? Fair enough.

    …what? Do you know how expensive Uggs are? Not to mention Tory Burch flats and monogrammed Louis Vuitton bags. Most of the things I mentioned are alternately signifiers of what I generally think of as uninspired midtown Manhattan dress code (TB flats, LV and other hyper-monogrammed bags) or downtown hipster ugliness (super-high pants, denim shorts, cheesy bangs).

    And for the record, I wear leggings all the time (just not as pants) because as you all say, they’re comfortable. I do wear leggings-esque pants to the gym, as pants. I wear comfortable and ugly flat boots to, from, and often at work. I have huge cheesy bangs. I have a nose ring, despite them being pretty out of style now (and despite working in a corporate environment). I carry a big (though not monogrammed, relatively conspicuous because of its shape) Marc Jacobs bag. I wear skinny jeans, despite having a completely inappropriate body type for that cut. I walk into the store and I pick sweaters and dresses in all the ugly colors. I own a pair of gladiator sandals that I bought in Greece.

    So, you know, I break all my own rules. I still like to mock ugly shoes and stupid fashion, even as I partake in it.

  88. Soma
    January 14, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    What would you kill off in 2009?

    Having to alter every single goddamn pair of pants I buy.

  89. AnneThropologist
    January 14, 2009 at 1:16 pm

    Ursula, we must be foot twins. I cannot walk into Payless Shoe Stores (or any other chain) and find a pair of shoes that fits. Period. Won’t go on my foot. My feet are short, wide, and tall. They look like grown-up toddler feet.

    My last pair of “business shoes” was in tatters by the time I gave them up because I could.not.find.another.pair.that.fit. Period. Forget style, forget color, forget comfort.

    I shop at the high-end shoe stores that sell the $125 comfy business shoes because they just MIGHT have a single pair of shoes that fits me. I can’t afford to shop there, but I can’t go to work barefoot.

    Merrells look comfy, but after 3 hours on the leather stretcher, the shoe salesman STILL couldn’t get ’em on my feet.

    In other words, “wide” shoes aren’t really wide, thank you very much.

  90. Kristen (The J one)
    January 14, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    Bratz and all Bratz related paraphernalia. Also anything pink or blue for anyone under the age of 14.

  91. Jorge
    January 14, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    I go to Chico State and Uggs have reached plague proportions here. What makes them really nasty is the material they’re made out of, they hold on to so much dirt. After it rains there are droves of sorority girls running around in these nasty muddy boots.

  92. Alex
    January 14, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    Thongs. There is no need. Just wear trousers that fit, and keep your arse safely in your pants. Your life will be so much better, and the world will be a nicer, happier, prettier place. Caitlin Moran says is better than I ever could

  93. January 14, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    I do think boy-short undies are sexier and I don’t particularly like the aesthetic of thongs, but you will pry my Hanky Pankies from my cold dead hands. They’re the most comfortable underwear EVER, they’re pretty, and no panty-lines.

  94. exholt
    January 14, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    Most of the things I mentioned are alternately signifiers of what I generally think of as uninspired midtown Manhattan dress code (TB flats, LV and other hyper-monogrammed bags) or downtown hipster ugliness (super-high pants, denim shorts, cheesy bangs).

    Much of what you attribute to midtown Manhattan’s dress code came about as a result of the rapid gentrification from the mid-late 1990s onwards.

    It was quite different back in the 1980’s-early’90s when my childhood friends and I were growing up and hanging out in those parts.

  95. January 14, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    The Amazing Kim:

    So this is basically an exercise in disparaging the cultural signifiers of the lower socio-economic classes? Fair enough.

    Not in my experience–boots like Uggs are very expensive markers of status when worn as a fashion statement rather than, say, a warm, support-less practical slipper. I don’t think it’s their practicality or comfort that’s being mocked or disparaged–it’s the people who spend a lot of money on what essentially amounts to bulky slippers in order to wear them as a hip status marker, even in conditions where they’d be completely impractical and uncomfortable. These are the cultural signifiers of hipsters.

  96. January 14, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    What would I kill off? There are many things I would kill off.

    The very first thing I would kill off is men’s “shorts” that extend below the knee. It is a thuggish look. Sorry, but you’re going to have to pry this man’s short shorts from his cold, dead ass.

    Next would be “skirt pants”, as are shown in some catalogs.

  97. exholt
    January 14, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    Not in my experience–boots like Uggs are very expensive markers of status when worn as a fashion statement rather than, say, a warm, support-less practical slipper. I don’t think it’s their practicality or comfort that’s being mocked or disparaged–it’s the people who spend a lot of money on what essentially amounts to bulky slippers in order to wear them as a hip status marker, even in conditions where they’d be completely impractical and uncomfortable.

    Outside of the Village/Midtown, how popular are Uggs? Seldom see them too much in my current neighborhood, the UWS, or Washington Heights.

  98. Faith
    January 14, 2009 at 6:23 pm

    Everytime I go to the mall, I see girls and women all over the place with UGGs. I have fake UGGs that I brought from Target for $20 over a year ago. I have to admit I love those things. They keep my feet so dang warm in the snow and they are great for snowy, cold Ohio weather. I love Crocs too. I have flat feet so they really do keep my feet comfy and they provide support.

    The one item I would love to see die though are legging as pants. I remember seeing a woman at a bus stop with leggings. The leggings were so thin that I could see her panties. All I kept thinking was “she couldn’t slip on a skirt?”

  99. Rachel_in_WY
    January 14, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    Armpit purses. I don’t carry a purse, but seriously, what’s with making purse straps so short that the purse is constantly shoved up into their armpit, causing them to elbow you repeatedly in a crowded bar?

  100. Spotted and Herbaceous Backson
    January 14, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    Just a reminder folks…Ugly is in the eye of the beholder.
    If I had a nickel for every pair of pants I’ve put on that the waist is too high and hits me halfway up the ribs, I could get a sewing machine and make my own darn clothes. They seem to be made for someone of my circumference and inseam length who is 7 feet tall. When Avenue came out with a “modern cut” that actually fit, I was flabbergasted.
    Now as for branding…anybody wants me to wear their damn logo, they can bloody well pay ME.

  101. Ursula L
    January 14, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    Leggings bring back fond memories of my undergrad days. All winter, most of us would wear leggings and oversize tee-shirts indoors, pulling jeans and an oversize sweatshirt on over them before going outdoors. (Plus winter coat, gloves, scarf, hat, etc.) It was considered perfectly appropriate to strip off your jeans and sweatshirt in public, as you were fully dressed underneath.

    You can’t dress in layers nearly as conveniently with the clothes sold today.

  102. January 14, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    I have to say, I sort of blanched at this post at first… but that’s because I recently read through a comment thread on Jezebel where the commenters were a lot more, uh, “earnest” about their fashion-hate (I had no idea there were so many people in the world who would actually get offended over what I wear to fly on a plane. it sort of makes me want to wear ratty sweatpants and ugly shirts every time I fly, just to spite them). so I did appreciate the clarification that this was all in good fun.

    as for what I’d kill:

    1) polo shirts
    2) polo shirts
    3) polo shirts
    4) pants that don’t fit anyone
    5) polo shirts, now and forever (and just to add some gender balance to fashion-hate: ESPECIALLY ON BOYS)

    I’m also with exholt in hoping that strict workplace dress codes die a swift death. So I guess you could add “anything that could be described as business casual” to the list. Really, I can understand “no shorts” or something sort of broad like that, but there are very nice jeans being made now that a lot of people look a lot better in than khakis or slacks.

    Also, while I don’t understand how anyone can wear flip-flops/(thongs if you’re non-US) in any situation ever (I always feel like they’re going to fall off and then I clench my toes and then my legs get sore after like ten minutes), fans of them have told me that they are actually ideal rain shoes, because they dry so quickly and aren’t clunky and uncomfortable like galoshes.

  103. GallingGalla
    January 14, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Jill @53: As for the people telling me to “lighten up”…. um. Just sayin’.

    I pretty much agree, except for Mina @54: Also they look really bad when someone’s pasty white muffin top is spilling over them. and La Lubu @42: Muffin top looks good on no one.


    And I say this as a girl who is skinny as a beanstalk except for my belly – that’s where the fat lands, I’ve had ppl ask me if I’m pregnant – and I like my low-rise jeans and though I usually take care to prevent “the gap / bare midriff”, sometimes my muffin-top does show, and y’all can just eat it.

  104. timothynakayama
    January 14, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    I know that many people find making fun of “ugly” fashion choices as well as sharing anecdotes of people in everyday wearing such ugly choices enjoyable. But does anyone know what esactly about it makes it enjoyable and fun to so many people? I like to buy and shop for clothes too, but I’ve always find it hard to understand why some people find it enjoyable. I just see it as people wearing things that I personally won’t wear because I might not be able to carry the look, but there are people that can, and why would my “fashion sense” be the correct one when that other person’s “fashion sense” has just as much right to be “right” as well? Isn’t fashion an individual choice?

  105. irene
    January 15, 2009 at 1:27 am

    I’m going to be muffin-topping for a while, and anyone who dislikes it can bite me, as I really can’t afford to replace all my jeans to make someone else happy. I had a dryer incident yesterday of forgetting to check the heat setting, and am now desperately trying to stretch out all my darks, which range from “snug” to “muffin topping” to “give to an elementary schooler”. I vote banning crappy laundrymat dryers in 2009.

  106. The Amazing Kim
    January 15, 2009 at 1:45 am

    Not in my experience–boots like Uggs are very expensive markers of status when worn as a fashion statement rather than, say, a warm, support-less practical slipper.

    Thanks for the American context, Jill and littlelight.

    Obviously it’s a bit different here in the south, where wearing ug-boots as part of an outfit is the unsubtle alternative to tattooing “HUGE BOGAN” on your forehead. As are quite a few other other things on Jill’s list. Probably because we get the cheap knock-offs of America’s last fashion season?

    Getting into the spirit, I’ll be happy once all bolero jackets have crumbled into dust. Those, and empire-waist anything. The fact I can’t find shirts without either 3/4 length sleeves or sleeves that go to my knees. Huge bows on women. It’s not the 80s, people.

    I’m proud to say that I embarrass my friends by wearing loudly coloured plaid suits from the 70s.

  107. Angiportus
    January 16, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    GallinGalla, timothynakayama, and irene…hooray, and thanks. Fashion tyranny needs to go the way of other kinds. I won’t stand for a return to the relentless conformity of my early years. I would ban only items that cost too much and fall apart too soon–and a culture that doesn’t encourage us to make or scrounge our own.
    Some of you say your criticisms are light-hearted and all in fun, but it doesn’t sound like it. There is enough imposition of stupid and impractical and arbitrary rules on us from the conservative sector–I don’t need to get it from here too. Even (supposedly) in jest. Anyone who agrees can join me in finding some more supportive places to hang out until this blows over. And anyone who has that much problem with someone else’s clothes can just put a bag over their own head.

  108. Alexandra Lynch
    January 19, 2009 at 11:52 am

    For the people with foot issues, may I recommend Footsmart? They sell normal looking shoes for people with less mainstream feet. (http://www.footsmart.com/default.aspx)

    As someone who wears an orthotic on one side to compensate for a bad midfoot, ankle taping to deal with permanently blown support ligaments, and a lift on the other side to deal with an anatomical short leg, I am delighted to find shoes that look like normal shoes that I can wear. And, wearing a ten in womens, I wander over to the men’s side a lot of the time. I am not a girly pink sneaker wearer, and damn it, the only way I could find a plain decent snow boot to shovel out the driveway in was to buy a man’s boot. Not all of us want to go tittupping through the snow in a three inch wedge heel. (/grumble)

    However, I admit to liking thongs. All my underwear attempts to bury itself in the crack of my ass over the course of the day. Therefore, a thong is, at least, less uncomfortable, and I actually prefer a g-string. Worn, of course, with pants that are not low rise. Low rise pants fall off my ass, and I prefer to only show my ass to those select few I have chosen to view it, without my clothing randomly making that decision for me.

    But the pajama bottoms as pants need to go. away. now.

  109. kenna
    January 19, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    Anyone who hates uggs has never owned a pair. I’ll give them up when hell freezes over… as it does in Utah every so often. Especially this year. :)

    (note: I realize they are ‘Uggly’, but when you have 8am physics classes, the pseudo-slipper is all you want to wear!)

  110. January 21, 2009 at 1:14 am

    I vote for those awful shapeless tops/tees that look like maternity wear, but are worn by women who are not pregnant. Also for anything made out of animal print, ESPECIALLY if the person is wearing multiple different animal print items at the same time. Also giant gold buckles on handbags.

  111. January 21, 2009 at 1:16 am

    Oh! And also those pouffy bubble dresses, who invented those and can we shoot him/her before he/she invents anything else?

  112. Miss Werewolf
    January 21, 2009 at 10:03 am

    I want to kill the whole empire waistline trend and those shapeless shirts that make women look like they are pregnant. I have been looking for a nice dark red dress, and I cannot find anything that would be even close to my natural waistline. I wish fitted dresses were back “in” now.
    And I want women’s jeans to have bigger pockets, since I refuse to ever carry a purse, so I need to carry a wallet and my stuff in my pants pockets. Until this happens, I will only wear men’s pants. They are more comfortable anyway, although as a petite little girl, it is pretty hard to find a size that fits me.

  113. Amber
    February 12, 2009 at 6:35 pm

    I totally agree if i could have 1 trend die it’d be uggs

  114. La BellaDonna
    May 28, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    “Mina @54: Also they look really bad when someone’s pasty white muffin top is spilling over

    Really, Mina? What colour muffin top do you find acceptable, then? Red? Yellow? Brown? Black? BITE me.

    As far as the clothing goes … I’m not partial to legible clothing, and I think manpris are vastly unflattering to the wearers, but I think the one garment I’d really like to see GO (ironically enough) are the pants which are sliding down off the wearer’s backside. Dude, buy a size that fits. Or a belt. Or a length of rope. You’re in physical danger, crossing streets wearing stuff that can fall around your ankles. I know, because I watched it happen. I’m not enthusiastic about people wearing their pajamas in public, but it’s happened time after time, for centuries, dating back at least as far as the 17th century – why should now be any different? I also think medium-sized guys in XXXXXL T-shirts are pretty funny-looking; combine an XXXXXL T-shirt with a nice pair of manpris, and you have a guy who might as well be wearing a dress. That said, I enjoy variety – all kinds, including so-called “bad taste.” Leggings are useful in the winter, Uggs are great for folks with bad circulation, and I love gladiator sandals. I like seeing people happy in what they wear. Ursula, have you tried wearing men’s shoes? I’m serious; I wonder if the more formal styles would work for you. That said, if you need something that looks dressier, consider looking at places that cater to re-enactors; a low-heeled 18th century shoe should pass muster with a woman’s suit in most workplaces. Google “Fugawee” and take a look at what they offer. In fact, you can probably get shoes MADE for you for significantly less money than off-the-rack high-end women’s designer shoes. I wear suits to work, with never a high-heel in my closet.

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