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  1. Personal Failure
    Personal Failure January 16, 2009 at 3:21 pm |

    you know that all of the world’s problems can be traced to the birth control pill, right? (that was an actual pro prop 8 blog post today) damn wimminz, not wanting to have babies every year until they die.

  2. Kyra
    Kyra January 16, 2009 at 4:00 pm |

    Oh, but if someone dies in childbirth that’s a natural death, and thus the pro-lifers have fulfilled their qualifiers for the sanctity of life “from creation to natural death” (to quote from the American Life League).

    Which of course is the logical equivalent of the people who say outlawing gay marriage isn’t denying anybody their rights because gay people still have the right to marry people of the opposite sex, but we all know how people like this get along with logic.

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  4. SnowdropExplodes
    SnowdropExplodes January 16, 2009 at 6:42 pm |

    I read the subtext from Bush’s statement, “The most basic duty of government is to protect the life of the innocent,” as being that “obviously, if she got herself pregnant, then she’s just a filthy whore and not innocent at all, therefore we don’t have any obligation to do anything to protect her.”

  5. denelian
    denelian January 16, 2009 at 7:30 pm |

    look i know that what i am about to type comes just from the fact that i am right now overwhelmingly depressed (as evidenced by the fact i have not been haunting Personal Failure for cookies for the past few days)

    i don’t know how, anymore. its so big, and getting bigger, i DON’T KNOW HOW TO DO ANYTHING BUT CRY AT THESE FACTS.

    i am not saying that i don’t want to read them – f that were the case, i could just not read them. i am saying that i no longer know what to do to try and help. when i donate i learn the money has been wasted or misused, not that i can donate much i can barely pay my bills. and know that being able to pay bills at all is a privilege, being able to be an adult taking care of myself when i am female is a privilege, i KNOW.

    but right now, i’m lost, i’m angry, and i feel totally incapable of helping even ONE of these millions of women who don’t even have my opportunities to fail.

    i feel that i can say that here. that maybe by saying it here, someone can tell me of something i can do that ACTUALLY will help, and not be siphoned off by a corrupt asshole or spent by husbands on prostitutes. something i can DO. which, yes, is ALSO a position of privilege, being able to help, and making it about me helping…

    argh!

  6. ThickRedGlasses
    ThickRedGlasses January 16, 2009 at 11:54 pm |

    Bush doesn’t care about life, unless he can use it to control women and send soldiers off to die. Just like he doesn’t care about science unless it’s hooked up to Terri Schiavo.

    And I’m really tired of the word “innocent.” Who’s innocent anyway? Were the 3,000 people who died on 9/11 innocent? I bet you some of the women in those buildings and planes had abortions. “Innocent” is just a word people throw around to imply that, sometimes, people deserve to be maimed or killed. Some say that our society can be judged based on how we treat our most vulnerable (people who say this are talking about zygotes). I think our society can be judged by how we treat guilty (or “guilty”) people.

  7. Ellen
    Ellen January 17, 2009 at 1:03 am |

    ThickRedGlasses, that is an excellent point!

    And denelian, I don’t think any of us know what to do. From disease prevention, to genocide, all we know how to do is spread awareness and argue.

    Just try to remember that while we see some places in Africa as desperately poor, they don’t see themselves that way. Toilets, clean water, air conditioners, paved roads, internet connections, money, vaccines, and birth control make our lives easier and safer, but it is our relationships that sustain us. And that is the same for people everywhere. We don’t die in childbirth or from diarrhea quite as much, but we often lead more alienated lives much more centered around money and work. I am not sure what my point it, and I could go on forever, but you are doing exactly what you should be doing: thinking, writing, talking, being politically active, and caring.

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  10. William
    William January 17, 2009 at 3:07 pm |

    “The most basic duty of government is to protect the life of the innocent.

    Bush needs to go back and read his Mill and Locke. The most basic duty of our government, the one created by the constitution that this man swore and oath to serve, is to monopolize violence in order to protect individuals from tyranny. Guilt or innocence doesn’t play a part and there are, oh, I don’t know, about 26 or 27 individual rights (depending on how you count) which are on equal footing with “life.” As far as I’m concerned this opening sentence is yet more evidence that the man is in willful dereliction of his oath, has allegiances to something other than the constitution, and ought to be tried and hung for treason the very moment he steps out of office.

    My administration has been committed to building a culture of life by vigorously promoting adoption and parental notification laws,

    Don’t pro-lifers always tell us that the point of parental notification laws is to keep parents involved in the lives of their children and make them better able to care for them? I mean, I’ve always called bullshit on that, but it seems here that Bush is admitting that the entire point of the exercise is not to notify parents but to “[build} a culture of life” which in turn implies that notification will somehow prevent abortion. Did Bush here just admit that the goal of parental notification laws was to prevent individuals from exercising a constitutional right?

  11. Cara
    Cara January 17, 2009 at 3:16 pm |

    Did Bush here just admit that the goal of parental notification laws was to prevent individuals from exercising a constitutional right?

    Yes, I think he did. But I also don’t think that it’s quite as unusual as you suggest. Parental notification laws are genuinely promoted through the argument of “keeping parents involved,” yes, but I have in fact seen many pro-lifers argue publicly that the point of them is to “prevent abortion.” Or, to make it more clear, to give parents the opportunity to force their children to give birth.

  12. denelian
    denelian January 17, 2009 at 8:01 pm |

    Ellen;
    thank you. i do often forget that if i had been raised somewhere else, i would think that THAT was normal. so i sit here and feel sad that these women don’t have what i do… when, most likely, they don’t even know what it is that i have that they don’t (materially, and i am not saying they don’t KNOW they don’t have a car and AC in the house, but that they haven’t experienced it, and it hasn’t become something like the center of their lives)
    i live as stripped-down life as i can. the only things i buy are food, cigs and books. i TRY to not over consume. which, again, is about my privilege and not their lack.
    i’m babbling. what i mean is, thank you for validating my feelings there. for telling me its ok to feel overwhelmed, as long as i keep talking about it.

    can i nominate Ellen for coolest person? or maybe most empathetic? i’m just a random stranger on the internet, and she took the time to try and understand what i was saying and to RELATE to it. and made me feel a bit better.

  13. William
    William January 18, 2009 at 12:54 am |

    Parental notification laws are genuinely promoted through the argument of “keeping parents involved,” yes, but I have in fact seen many pro-lifers argue publicly that the point of them is to “prevent abortion.”

    I guess its the public admission thing thats getting me. I know that thats the underlying logic, but its been my (perhaps idiosyncratic) experience that the forced birth crowd tends to treat notification with a nudge and a wink. What struck me as unusual was how honest Bush’s statement seemed to be when the rest of his side of the discussion sometimes seems to have a competition for who can be the most disingenuous.

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