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		<title>By: Meghan</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/01/21/gendering-comfort/#comment-222919</link>
		<dc:creator>Meghan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 00:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got the sense, having played rugby for 8-9 years, that enduring pain was a point of pride. Almost to be enjoyed for the status it gave you as a better (non-wussy) individual. It was worse for the guys, but there was some spillover onto the women&#039;s culture, because you kinda felt coerced to &quot;keep up&quot; with the guys, to be respected as athletes/rugby animals. Drink as much, take as much pain, be just as raunchy, and more acceptance to be casual about sex. I grew up with three brothers so the play-fighting, comparing-bruises social experience came easy. I still accept the bruises I get play-fighting or getting hurt being physically risky much easier then any clothing restrictions or pain from beauty rituals.

I mean I can show-off any bruises or scars as &quot;life experience&quot; but nobody wants to see deformed feet from a life time of high heels in respect for a life lived to the fullest. At least I&#039;ve never heard of it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got the sense, having played rugby for 8-9 years, that enduring pain was a point of pride. Almost to be enjoyed for the status it gave you as a better (non-wussy) individual. It was worse for the guys, but there was some spillover onto the women&#8217;s culture, because you kinda felt coerced to &#8220;keep up&#8221; with the guys, to be respected as athletes/rugby animals. Drink as much, take as much pain, be just as raunchy, and more acceptance to be casual about sex. I grew up with three brothers so the play-fighting, comparing-bruises social experience came easy. I still accept the bruises I get play-fighting or getting hurt being physically risky much easier then any clothing restrictions or pain from beauty rituals.</p>
<p>I mean I can show-off any bruises or scars as &#8220;life experience&#8221; but nobody wants to see deformed feet from a life time of high heels in respect for a life lived to the fullest. At least I&#8217;ve never heard of it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Amazing Kim</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/01/21/gendering-comfort/#comment-222838</link>
		<dc:creator>The Amazing Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There should be a [/snark] tag there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There should be a [/snark] tag there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Amazing Kim</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/01/21/gendering-comfort/#comment-222837</link>
		<dc:creator>The Amazing Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Dude, Howie is totally hitting on that guy. And/or simultaneously emasculating him.&lt;/i&gt;

So just like heterosexual flirting, then. 

&lt;i&gt;It was bullying, battery, and abuse, with a thin veneer of “just joking” slapped on the side as if that ever made it better.&lt;/i&gt;

Sounds like &quot;sports&quot; to me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Dude, Howie is totally hitting on that guy. And/or simultaneously emasculating him.</i></p>
<p>So just like heterosexual flirting, then. </p>
<p><i>It was bullying, battery, and abuse, with a thin veneer of “just joking” slapped on the side as if that ever made it better.</i></p>
<p>Sounds like &#8220;sports&#8221; to me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cbrachyrhynchos</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/01/21/gendering-comfort/#comment-222785</link>
		<dc:creator>cbrachyrhynchos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 23:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I still see this difference in “girl” behaviors and “boy” behaviors as detrimental in a huge way (maybe even mostly) to women and girls.&lt;/i&gt;

There certainly are contexts in which it&#039;s possible to engage in friendly competitive physical violence built around mutual respect. We usually call them &quot;sports.&quot;

My experience though wasn&#039;t that it was friendly at all. It was bullying, battery, and abuse, with a thin veneer of &quot;just joking&quot; slapped on the side as if that ever made it better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I still see this difference in “girl” behaviors and “boy” behaviors as detrimental in a huge way (maybe even mostly) to women and girls.</i></p>
<p>There certainly are contexts in which it&#8217;s possible to engage in friendly competitive physical violence built around mutual respect. We usually call them &#8220;sports.&#8221;</p>
<p>My experience though wasn&#8217;t that it was friendly at all. It was bullying, battery, and abuse, with a thin veneer of &#8220;just joking&#8221; slapped on the side as if that ever made it better.</p>
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		<title>By: Bagelsan</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/01/21/gendering-comfort/#comment-222784</link>
		<dc:creator>Bagelsan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I’ve seen boys punch each other in the stomach just to determine who could take it without doubling over.&lt;/i&gt;

I still see this difference in &quot;girl&quot; behaviors and &quot;boy&quot; behaviors as detrimental in a huge way (maybe even mostly) to women and girls. Girls aren&#039;t expected to have any experience with physical confrontation, so a heavily female-socialized woman is going to be clueless about what to do in a fight or when physically threatened. I grew up very physically sheltered, and was never hit even by friends or in a joking manner, so being hit would be completely baffling. I would likely spend a good minute being like &quot;seriously? I just got hit? What the hell? That totally hurt more than I thought it would...&quot; instead of focusing on the circumstances and possibly protecting myself. Having some experience fighting or getting hit, even in a playful or foolish way, would help reduce the initial shock, I believe.

A microcosm of this is my interaction with a friend in college, who grew up as &quot;one of the boys&quot; to a greater extent. The first time she play-punched me in the shoulder I was like &quot;Ow!&quot; and didn&#039;t move, but just gave her the most astonished look. Now that I&#039;ve adjusted to her more physical approach I play-punch her back without any mental distress, and I have no problem realizing that no, it didn&#039;t actually hurt, I was just startled and acting properly girlish. :p

(Obviously, this is not to be taken as &quot;hit little girls, it&#039;s good for &#039;em!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’ve seen boys punch each other in the stomach just to determine who could take it without doubling over.</i></p>
<p>I still see this difference in &#8220;girl&#8221; behaviors and &#8220;boy&#8221; behaviors as detrimental in a huge way (maybe even mostly) to women and girls. Girls aren&#8217;t expected to have any experience with physical confrontation, so a heavily female-socialized woman is going to be clueless about what to do in a fight or when physically threatened. I grew up very physically sheltered, and was never hit even by friends or in a joking manner, so being hit would be completely baffling. I would likely spend a good minute being like &#8220;seriously? I just got hit? What the hell? That totally hurt more than I thought it would&#8230;&#8221; instead of focusing on the circumstances and possibly protecting myself. Having some experience fighting or getting hit, even in a playful or foolish way, would help reduce the initial shock, I believe.</p>
<p>A microcosm of this is my interaction with a friend in college, who grew up as &#8220;one of the boys&#8221; to a greater extent. The first time she play-punched me in the shoulder I was like &#8220;Ow!&#8221; and didn&#8217;t move, but just gave her the most astonished look. Now that I&#8217;ve adjusted to her more physical approach I play-punch her back without any mental distress, and I have no problem realizing that no, it didn&#8217;t actually hurt, I was just startled and acting properly girlish. :p</p>
<p>(Obviously, this is not to be taken as &#8220;hit little girls, it&#8217;s good for &#8216;em!)</p>
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		<title>By: Gaina</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/01/21/gendering-comfort/#comment-222783</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello :) I got to your blog via another and I just had to comment on this posting.

As usual the &#039;macho man&#039; has shot himself in the foot because I don&#039;t know about the other ladies commenting here but I LOVE to see a man with nice hands. 

Male manicures are sexy...oh yes. :)

And actually the more I think of it, Mr Manicure probably gets more girls because his car is nice and *warm* haha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello :) I got to your blog via another and I just had to comment on this posting.</p>
<p>As usual the &#8216;macho man&#8217; has shot himself in the foot because I don&#8217;t know about the other ladies commenting here but I LOVE to see a man with nice hands. </p>
<p>Male manicures are sexy&#8230;oh yes. :)</p>
<p>And actually the more I think of it, Mr Manicure probably gets more girls because his car is nice and *warm* haha.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/01/21/gendering-comfort/#comment-222781</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;He says that people walk around like that all the time in Chicago when its in the high 20s and the sun is shining. Sounds preposterous to me (coming from Hawaii) but I suppose its possible.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As a life-long Chicagoan, I&#039;ve definitely had the same experience. When I left the house this morning it was in the mid 20s and I actually debated going back inside to ditch the hat and gloves and grab a lighter jacket. Thats mostly because we just had two weeks in the low single digits and cold, even really cold, just doesn&#039;t feel cold when you compare it to what you were dealing with before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>He says that people walk around like that all the time in Chicago when its in the high 20s and the sun is shining. Sounds preposterous to me (coming from Hawaii) but I suppose its possible.</p></blockquote>
<p>As a life-long Chicagoan, I&#8217;ve definitely had the same experience. When I left the house this morning it was in the mid 20s and I actually debated going back inside to ditch the hat and gloves and grab a lighter jacket. Thats mostly because we just had two weeks in the low single digits and cold, even really cold, just doesn&#8217;t feel cold when you compare it to what you were dealing with before.</p>
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		<title>By: cbrachyrhynchos</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/01/21/gendering-comfort/#comment-222776</link>
		<dc:creator>cbrachyrhynchos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And another WTF? 21MPG Highway is supposed to pat yourself on the back for being so frugal about buying a V6/V8 beast that is little more than a status symbol for most people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And another WTF? 21MPG Highway is supposed to pat yourself on the back for being so frugal about buying a V6/V8 beast that is little more than a status symbol for most people?</p>
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		<title>By: cbrachyrhynchos</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/01/21/gendering-comfort/#comment-222769</link>
		<dc:creator>cbrachyrhynchos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s stuff like this that makes me feel uncomfortably gendered. It&#039;s not that I have a manicure or a heated steering wheel, but the whole exchange just hits a bit too close to experiences of being gender-checked, with of course the associated implications regarding sexuality and class status that go with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s stuff like this that makes me feel uncomfortably gendered. It&#8217;s not that I have a manicure or a heated steering wheel, but the whole exchange just hits a bit too close to experiences of being gender-checked, with of course the associated implications regarding sexuality and class status that go with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Cara</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/01/21/gendering-comfort/#comment-222731</link>
		<dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Aside at Miriam: any chance you&#039;re going to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rochesternow.org/calendar.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rochester Roe event tonight&lt;/a&gt;?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Aside at Miriam: any chance you&#8217;re going to the <a href="http://www.rochesternow.org/calendar.html" rel="nofollow">Rochester Roe event tonight</a>?)</p>
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