Comments on: Fuck you Dov Charney.

By: CT Moore

CT Moore — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:41:31 +0000

Do your homework. That quote is verbatim from a book called “Not Guilty: The Case in Defense of Men” which was published more than a decade before the college kid interviewed Charney. He was discussing the book with the student journalist, and I guess the kid just couldn’t resist the temptation of garnering fifteen minutes of fame by quoting him out of context. Or maybe he just wasn’t paying attention and doing a half-ass job.

Seriously, I didn’t believe Charney at first either, but then he threw the book in my face. Ver-f**king-batim…

Given that the student journalist attributed a verbatim quote to Charney that is obviously not his, I think that we have to give Charney the benefit of the doubt on at least this one.

Gawd, I don’t know what’s worse: that so many bloggers were so amateurish to run with this without checking their facts, or that the libelous work of a zealot-wannabe-journalist is still getting mentioned 5 year after the fact.

Anyway, do with that what you will. I’m not exactly Charney’s number one fan. But I did get to spend some time around him, and just like anyone else, there’s both good and bad to him…

By: James

James — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:31:52 +0000

In the world of apparel manufacturing, I assure you the workers at AA have it better than 98% of the world. Boycotting them could result in NO apparel manufacturing domestically and all production being done overseas. If you think women are treated poorly at AA you should look into the contractors that produce for American labels. There is no accountability and workers in places like Asia make between 17¢-43¢ an hour. I have no particular love for Mr. Charney, but you should realize that in this industry, you are probably going after the least guilty.

By: Economics, WTF? « Accismus

Economics, WTF? « Accismus — Sun, 17 May 2009 02:30:44 +0000

[...] Wheelan explains that the market, while amoral, is a powerful force for improving our lives. Capitalism uses prices to allocate scarce resources, as opposed to Communism, which was a first-come, first-serve kind of deal (which explains the pushy behavior of the old Polish people in the delis around here). Ultimately, things are priced according to the profit-maximizing price, which can be a difficult thing to determine; however (and I found this interesting), if we fix prices in a market system, companies will find other ways in which to compete with each other – for example, through providing better service, or offering more perks. Every market transaction makes all parties better off, and here Wheelan reiterates Nicolas Kristof’s pro-sweatshop arguments. (Incidentally, I am so glad that smart, good guys like Kristof speak out against well-intended but misguided anti-sweatshop efforts, because it gives me yet more moral support as I firmly declare, “FUCK YOU, AMERICAN APPAREL!”) [...]

By: Pete Roustelle

Pete Roustelle — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:46:11 +0000

As a straight man who has been victimized by both his mother and his father — involving multiple bouts of inappropriate behavior. I am going to go with what Emily said back in January. The notion that only gay men and straight women, who have been legitimately victimized, can have a voice in this arena is misguided and underdeveloped. Feminism is not the antidote to domestic unrest. It just isn’t. Peace

By: Riotangst

Riotangst — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 23:49:14 +0000

This is really, really, really sad. But this is a true test of whether one is really commited to the movement or not. While AA started off on awesome intentions, it’s all gone down the drain. It’s very important to remember this: The Left, no matter how progressive they have presented themselves, isn’t taking women seriously. Women cannot be victimized, no matter how good the intentions are.

I’m a male by the way, and I believe firmly and fundamentally, that any movement no matter how progressive it seems, if it goes out to victimize any group -queer, female, trangender, race, etc- it must be boycotted. And it’s so hard… because as a gay male who has been victimized by patriarchy, finding queer positive entrepeneurs is hard. But as permissive or queer positive as Dov is, I can no longer support him if women are to be victimized. It would make me a hypocrite and a contradiction of everything I believe in.

I love AA clothing and ideals. But not at the expense of women. And if I get angry with men who endorse Axe commercial their chauvenistic heterosexism, then how can I turn a blind eye to AA now?

I wish it didn’t have to be this way, I wish there was a happy compromise, I wish he were removed and the company maintained it’s policy on sweatshop free clothing, but until Dov is removed I cannot keep putting money into his sleaze bag hands. This isn’t an attack on his sexual morality, or a statement against liberal sexuality, this is about the victimization of those who did not want to engage in this kind of behaviour and were then reprimanded for it.

By: Mias P.

Mias P. — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 00:03:55 +0000

Thank you SO SO SO much for posting this

By: Alex Chen

Alex Chen — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:06:40 +0000

That’s it, I’m boycotting AA, and getting all my friends to.

By: Economics, WTF? « But I Could Be Wrong

Economics, WTF? « But I Could Be Wrong — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:44:34 +0000

[...] Wheelan explains that the market, while amoral, is a powerful force for improving our lives. Capitalism uses prices to allocate scarce resources, as opposed to Communism, which was a first-come, first-serve kind of deal (which explains the pushy behavior of the old Polish people in the delis around here). Ultimately, things are priced according to the profit-maximizing price, which can be a difficult thing to determine; however (and I found this interesting), if we fix prices in a market system, companies will find other ways in which to compete with each other – for example, through providing better service, or offering more perks. Every market transaction makes all parties better off, and here Wheelan reiterates Nicolas Kristof’s pro-sweatshop arguments. (Incidentally, I am so glad that smart, good guys like Kristof speak out against anti-sweatshop propaganda, because it gives me yet more moral support as I firmly declare, “FUCK YOU, AMERICAN APPAREL!”) [...]

By: Is It Bad That I Want One Of These? « Mixtapes for Hookers

Is It Bad That I Want One Of These? « Mixtapes for Hookers — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:59:06 +0000

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By: Rachel

Rachel — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 01:20:33 +0000

“Women initiate most domestic violence” means exactly what it says: women are more likely to act out violently against an intimate partner (by like 2% though, so it’s pretty small). But that’s including things like slaps to the face. People say that 84% of spouse *abuse* victims are female

Carla N in 21, are you seriously making a claim that slapping a spouse in the face is not necessarily abuse? Or that the definition of abuse has anything to do with whether permanent physical damage is left?

Let’s be clear. It is abuse, and assault, for anyone to slap a partner in the face.