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	<title>Comments on: PETA Racism Goes Into Overload</title>
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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: chava</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/10/peta-racism-goes-into-overload/#comment-243194</link>
		<dc:creator>chava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 17:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose if you extend human subjecthood to animals, your argument makes a certain amount of sense.  You see the lynching of a black man, or a Jewish woman gassed alive and then burned, as equivalent to factory farming because animals=people for you.  However, if I were trying to advocate for, say, victims in the Sudan, I would not think it was reasonable to tactlessly dramatize the horrible suffering of other groups in order to further my cause--which is what PETA does.  


But at a more basic level, I think most of us simply refuse to accept your basic argument about where to place the limits of the human.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose if you extend human subjecthood to animals, your argument makes a certain amount of sense.  You see the lynching of a black man, or a Jewish woman gassed alive and then burned, as equivalent to factory farming because animals=people for you.  However, if I were trying to advocate for, say, victims in the Sudan, I would not think it was reasonable to tactlessly dramatize the horrible suffering of other groups in order to further my cause&#8211;which is what PETA does.  </p>
<p>But at a more basic level, I think most of us simply refuse to accept your basic argument about where to place the limits of the human.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/10/peta-racism-goes-into-overload/#comment-243187</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 16:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can honestly say I agree with what PETA does. They may be extreme, but they are fighting, as hard as they can for those who cannot fight for themselves. You can say you want equal rights for all, but do you really? Do YOU fight to save the lives of  the innocent? Factory farming, and slaughterhouses are, in my opinion comparable to the killing and torture that occurred during the holocaust. 

Suffering is suffering. and PETA is trying to save many innocent lives. As hard, or wrong as it may seem, they&#039;re doing the right thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can honestly say I agree with what PETA does. They may be extreme, but they are fighting, as hard as they can for those who cannot fight for themselves. You can say you want equal rights for all, but do you really? Do YOU fight to save the lives of  the innocent? Factory farming, and slaughterhouses are, in my opinion comparable to the killing and torture that occurred during the holocaust. </p>
<p>Suffering is suffering. and PETA is trying to save many innocent lives. As hard, or wrong as it may seem, they&#8217;re doing the right thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/10/peta-racism-goes-into-overload/#comment-234045</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, I dislike PETA and abhor animal cruelty, but my comment is about the comments.  LMAO that nobody caught the pun (and under-the-radar sexism) in the statement that somebody is &lt;i&gt;bitching&lt;/i&gt; about the treatment of people and dogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, I dislike PETA and abhor animal cruelty, but my comment is about the comments.  LMAO that nobody caught the pun (and under-the-radar sexism) in the statement that somebody is <i>bitching</i> about the treatment of people and dogs.</p>
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		<title>By: Devoy</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/10/peta-racism-goes-into-overload/#comment-231362</link>
		<dc:creator>Devoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 02:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the... PETA needs to be cut off right now. Shit like this is ridiculous. The AKC? Seriously? There aren&#039;t better, more... you know... actual threats to animal welfare out there? What a bunch of wackos! I used to belong and volunteer my time but PETA hasn&#039;t been right in the head for about 15 years now. Shut em down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the&#8230; PETA needs to be cut off right now. Shit like this is ridiculous. The AKC? Seriously? There aren&#8217;t better, more&#8230; you know&#8230; actual threats to animal welfare out there? What a bunch of wackos! I used to belong and volunteer my time but PETA hasn&#8217;t been right in the head for about 15 years now. Shut em down.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rodge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh for the love of God. 

Hey, what the hell is the AKC and why is it evil? I am not American and I have nothing to do with dogs. All I can see is that PETA seems to think black people are 1) dogs, and 2) not needed in the slightest in their campaigns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh for the love of God. </p>
<p>Hey, what the hell is the AKC and why is it evil? I am not American and I have nothing to do with dogs. All I can see is that PETA seems to think black people are 1) dogs, and 2) not needed in the slightest in their campaigns.</p>
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		<title>By: One Rotten Veggie &#171; shouting for animal, social, political, educational, environmental, economic, and sexual in/justices</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/10/peta-racism-goes-into-overload/#comment-226976</link>
		<dc:creator>One Rotten Veggie &#171; shouting for animal, social, political, educational, environmental, economic, and sexual in/justices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 07:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] My Reply: OK, I have never heard of that in my entire life. They are fighting against global warming, trying vigorously to protect endangered species around the globe, and many, many other charitable work that needs to be gratified. I also love peta2 but there are some things that I wish they would stop doing. Like this: peta2 and RACISM? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] My Reply: OK, I have never heard of that in my entire life. They are fighting against global warming, trying vigorously to protect endangered species around the globe, and many, many other charitable work that needs to be gratified. I also love peta2 but there are some things that I wish they would stop doing. Like this: peta2 and RACISM? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
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		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Cpt. Long Name, I&#039;m about as big of a fan of the idea of objective evil as I am of using declarative statements as a substitute for argument. What you, and so many others in your movement, seem to forget is that my primary concerns are not your primary concerns. I don&#039;t like the AKC, I don&#039;t see the point of pure bred animals, and I would rather adopt a pet then purchase one. Now maybe I&#039;m not doing much to help dogs by calling PETA out for being worse than the organization they&#039;re protesting, but thats neither my overwhelming passion nor my responsibility. My job as a human being isn&#039;t to fight the fights you would like me to. I do however think that it helps people by calling out racism when I see it. I do think that telling white people it simply isn&#039;t OK to put on the robes, no matter what point you&#039;re trying to make, benefits society as a whole. I do think that having a meaningful discussion about privilege spawned blindness is worth having. I do think that &quot;bitching&quot; about an overwhelmingly white group comparing people of color to animals is worth my time.

The beautiful thing about an open society is that we can, as individuals, choose to care about whatever we please. But don&#039;t be so fucking arrogant as to tell me what I may or may not believe, what I may or may not think, or what views I must adopt as to the moral value of anything. If you want to discuss, convince, or argue, thats great, but the moment you tell me what I &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; to do is the moment you can pucker up and kiss my surprisingly firm ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Cpt. Long Name, I&#8217;m about as big of a fan of the idea of objective evil as I am of using declarative statements as a substitute for argument. What you, and so many others in your movement, seem to forget is that my primary concerns are not your primary concerns. I don&#8217;t like the AKC, I don&#8217;t see the point of pure bred animals, and I would rather adopt a pet then purchase one. Now maybe I&#8217;m not doing much to help dogs by calling PETA out for being worse than the organization they&#8217;re protesting, but thats neither my overwhelming passion nor my responsibility. My job as a human being isn&#8217;t to fight the fights you would like me to. I do however think that it helps people by calling out racism when I see it. I do think that telling white people it simply isn&#8217;t OK to put on the robes, no matter what point you&#8217;re trying to make, benefits society as a whole. I do think that having a meaningful discussion about privilege spawned blindness is worth having. I do think that &#8220;bitching&#8221; about an overwhelmingly white group comparing people of color to animals is worth my time.</p>
<p>The beautiful thing about an open society is that we can, as individuals, choose to care about whatever we please. But don&#8217;t be so fucking arrogant as to tell me what I may or may not believe, what I may or may not think, or what views I must adopt as to the moral value of anything. If you want to discuss, convince, or argue, thats great, but the moment you tell me what I <i>have</i> to do is the moment you can pucker up and kiss my surprisingly firm ass.</p>
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		<title>By: The AKC Is Evil</title>
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		<dc:creator>The AKC Is Evil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William, not supporting PETA, just taking the opportunity to point out that the AKC is evil. Go ahead, think that PETA is evil, too, I don&#039;t care. Just don&#039;t for a minute think that you&#039;re doing anything good for people or dogs by bitching. Bitching is just bitching and it&#039;s not helping anyone.

Hate PETA? Fine, hate them. Send them letters, protest their protests, don&#039;t donate.
But don&#039;t hate dogs just because you hate PETA. Don&#039;t act like the AKC isn&#039;t evil. The AKC IS EVIL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William, not supporting PETA, just taking the opportunity to point out that the AKC is evil. Go ahead, think that PETA is evil, too, I don&#8217;t care. Just don&#8217;t for a minute think that you&#8217;re doing anything good for people or dogs by bitching. Bitching is just bitching and it&#8217;s not helping anyone.</p>
<p>Hate PETA? Fine, hate them. Send them letters, protest their protests, don&#8217;t donate.<br />
But don&#8217;t hate dogs just because you hate PETA. Don&#8217;t act like the AKC isn&#8217;t evil. The AKC IS EVIL.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William @ 109:  wrt PETA and parallels to the Religious Right.  Good point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William @ 109:  wrt PETA and parallels to the Religious Right.  Good point.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Black Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/10/peta-racism-goes-into-overload/#comment-226576</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ Black Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Utterly amazing. IHav no respect for PETA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Utterly amazing. IHav no respect for PETA</p>
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