Comments on: Twelve States Attempt Ultrasound-Related Abortion Restrictions http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/11/twelve-states-attempt-ultrasound-related-abortion-restrictions/ In defense of the sanctimonious women's studies set. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:11:18 +0000 hourly 1 By: On Appeasement « The Radical Notion http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/11/twelve-states-attempt-ultrasound-related-abortion-restrictions/#comment-234715 On Appeasement « The Radical Notion Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:02:47 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=11647#comment-234715 [...] Feministe: Twelve States Attempt Ultrasound-Related Abortion Restrictions [...] [...] Feministe: Twelve States Attempt Ultrasound-Related Abortion Restrictions [...]

]]> By: Arizona Legislature Considers Numerous Abortion Restrictions : The Curvature http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/11/twelve-states-attempt-ultrasound-related-abortion-restrictions/#comment-228874 Arizona Legislature Considers Numerous Abortion Restrictions : The Curvature Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:01:24 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=11647#comment-228874 [...] Just as anti-choice, time-wasting nonsense gets cleared up in South Dakota, we find ourselves some more in Arizona.  Indeed, as Miriam and Ann note, anti-choicers seem to be going pretty wild all over the nation. [...] [...] Just as anti-choice, time-wasting nonsense gets cleared up in South Dakota, we find ourselves some more in Arizona.  Indeed, as Miriam and Ann note, anti-choicers seem to be going pretty wild all over the nation. [...]

]]> By: Phenicks http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/11/twelve-states-attempt-ultrasound-related-abortion-restrictions/#comment-228613 Phenicks Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:35:35 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=11647#comment-228613 you need an ultrasound because the doctor NEEDS to know exactly how far along you are if he thinks the baby is bigger than it is ehe could end up ripping out some of your uterus, if he thinks its smaller, some of the dead fetus could be left in there to give you a nasty infection. You do NOT need to see the ultrasound in most places or even hear the heartbeat (most doctors wont even turn the sound on, they can tell the heartrate without the sound). This will limit the incidence of botched abortions and infections. I think its digusting that docotrs have been simply guessing how far along a woman is or how far developed/the size of the fetus without actually looking at it. an abortion at 2 weeks requires far less than one at 10 or more. you need an ultrasound because the doctor NEEDS to know exactly how far along you are if he thinks the baby is bigger than it is ehe could end up ripping out some of your uterus, if he thinks its smaller, some of the dead fetus could be left in there to give you a nasty infection. You do NOT need to see the ultrasound in most places or even hear the heartbeat (most doctors wont even turn the sound on, they can tell the heartrate without the sound). This will limit the incidence of botched abortions and infections. I think its digusting that docotrs have been simply guessing how far along a woman is or how far developed/the size of the fetus without actually looking at it. an abortion at 2 weeks requires far less than one at 10 or more.

]]> By: Phenicks http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/11/twelve-states-attempt-ultrasound-related-abortion-restrictions/#comment-228611 Phenicks Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:29:48 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=11647#comment-228611 Jenna, question #19, not very. The state has a really good argument as to why an ultrasound should be performed, if doctors were to take anything from your body were blindly tearing away at tissue (blindly because the only way for an abortionist to se ewhat he's doing is via ultrasound) he would be jeopardizing your health and maybe your life. I don't think the woman needs to view it anymore than I think a patient would need to view the ultrasound for removal of any other tissue from their bodies. Jenna, question #19, not very. The state has a really good argument as to why an ultrasound should be performed, if doctors were to take anything from your body were blindly tearing away at tissue (blindly because the only way for an abortionist to se ewhat he’s doing is via ultrasound) he would be jeopardizing your health and maybe your life. I don’t think the woman needs to view it anymore than I think a patient would need to view the ultrasound for removal of any other tissue from their bodies.

]]> By: Phenicks http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/11/twelve-states-attempt-ultrasound-related-abortion-restrictions/#comment-228609 Phenicks Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:17:18 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=11647#comment-228609 PLEAASE read the bottom where it says how to prepare for a transvaginal ultrasound. http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003779.htm I had to have several of these because I found out I was pregnant so early. If you had to have it done on a full bladder it may be time to sue someone.. PLEAASE read the bottom where it says how to prepare for a transvaginal ultrasound. http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003779.htm I had to have several of these because I found out I was pregnant so early. If you had to have it done on a full bladder it may be time to sue someone..

]]> By: Phenicks http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/11/twelve-states-attempt-ultrasound-related-abortion-restrictions/#comment-228607 Phenicks Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:13:06 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=11647#comment-228607 A full bladder makes for a bad picture on a transvaginal u/s. I have enver had an abortion but I have a son and my husband knew ASAP that I was pregnant before me or any pregnancy test could confirm it. The ultrasound didn't pick up the lil circle that was our son until 3 days later and that lil gestational sac wasn picked up through transvaginal u/s. It was very uncomfortable for me. But on the flip side I always thought ultrasounds were done for abortions so that the doctor could SEE what he was doing. I cant imagine a doctor sticking what is essentially a human tissue vacuum in my body without some sort of scope or something to be sure the human tissue he's taking out isn't something I need. A full bladder makes for a bad picture on a transvaginal u/s. I have enver had an abortion but I have a son and my husband knew ASAP that I was pregnant before me or any pregnancy test could confirm it. The ultrasound didn’t pick up the lil circle that was our son until 3 days later and that lil gestational sac wasn picked up through transvaginal u/s. It was very uncomfortable for me. But on the flip side I always thought ultrasounds were done for abortions so that the doctor could SEE what he was doing. I cant imagine a doctor sticking what is essentially a human tissue vacuum in my body without some sort of scope or something to be sure the human tissue he’s taking out isn’t something I need.

]]> By: dory http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/11/twelve-states-attempt-ultrasound-related-abortion-restrictions/#comment-228594 dory Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:07:26 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=11647#comment-228594 all of these bills, put before individual state congresses have ONLY one goal....to slide in the back door...unnoticed...and gradually chip our right to choice away....it is no less than sleight of hand....while our nation... and the media are focussed on the economic collapse of the globe....pro-lifers are tip-toeing around with these state bills...to get them passed UNDER THE RADAR....the goal is to nullify roe v. wade....but not to do it in a publicity drenched head-on in the supreme court....we must be vigilant...and we must hold our legislators ACCOUNTABLE for this back-door political hijacking of our rights!....we must keep track of how EACH of our local and state representatives voted...so that... in the next elections.... we can VOTE THEM OUT....it all makes me sick.... we women are being "punked" from EVERY angle....so, fellow women in this horrible time...we must keep our eyes peeled for these behind the scenes eviscerations of our hard-won right to choose what WE DO WITH OUR OWN BODIES!!! all of these bills, put before individual state congresses have ONLY one goal….to slide in the back door…unnoticed…and gradually chip our right to choice away….it is no less than sleight of hand….while our nation… and the media are focussed on the economic collapse of the globe….pro-lifers are tip-toeing around with these state bills…to get them passed UNDER THE RADAR….the goal is to nullify roe v. wade….but not to do it in a publicity drenched head-on in the supreme court….we must be vigilant…and we must hold our legislators ACCOUNTABLE for this back-door political hijacking of our rights!….we must keep track of how EACH of our local and state representatives voted…so that… in the next elections…. we can VOTE THEM OUT….it all makes me sick…. we women are being “punked” from EVERY angle….so, fellow women in this horrible time…we must keep our eyes peeled for these behind the scenes eviscerations of our hard-won right to choose what WE DO WITH OUR OWN BODIES!!!

]]> By: Cathy http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/11/twelve-states-attempt-ultrasound-related-abortion-restrictions/#comment-227593 Cathy Thu, 19 Feb 2009 06:11:45 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=11647#comment-227593 Painful or not, forcing a woman to go through an uncomfortable procedure to make her see a fetus she's already decided to terminate is ridiculous and having her pay for it is even more so. It doesn't matter if the procedure is physically painful or not, I don't think there's any woman who looks forward to having a procedure like that done, it's actually a very frightening prospect to many women. Which reinforces the fact that people who want to enforce rules like this don't actually care about the woman who is carrying the fetus, only reinforcing to her that her fetus is more important. Do we really wonder why women feel completely entitled to disregard people who spout this bullshit to them? An image of a fetus isn't going to make her change her mind. Maybe someone who respects her as a person would. Painful or not, forcing a woman to go through an uncomfortable procedure to make her see a fetus she’s already decided to terminate is ridiculous and having her pay for it is even more so. It doesn’t matter if the procedure is physically painful or not, I don’t think there’s any woman who looks forward to having a procedure like that done, it’s actually a very frightening prospect to many women. Which reinforces the fact that people who want to enforce rules like this don’t actually care about the woman who is carrying the fetus, only reinforcing to her that her fetus is more important. Do we really wonder why women feel completely entitled to disregard people who spout this bullshit to them? An image of a fetus isn’t going to make her change her mind. Maybe someone who respects her as a person would.

]]> By: Kristen (The J one) http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/11/twelve-states-attempt-ultrasound-related-abortion-restrictions/#comment-226961 Kristen (The J one) Sat, 14 Feb 2009 02:28:37 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=11647#comment-226961 Okay...so quick question. I'm a Maryland resident and I'm (obviously) furious that some asshole is trying to restrict abortions in my BLUE fucking state. I went to PP of Maryland.com to see if there was any info on the bill, who I could harass...whose house I need to egg (kidding!)...when I noticed that Planned Parenthood requires an ultrasound (of some sort) to determine the pregnancy date. Can anyone explain why PP would require an ultrasound? Have we lost too much ground on this issue already? Maryland supposedly has its own version of the Freedom of Choice Act so I thought we were relatively safe on this issue. (In any event, for other Maryland residents <a href="http://prochoicecrab.blogspot.com/2009/02/anti-choice-ultrasound-bill-introduced.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> is more info on who to call/egg.) Okay…so quick question. I’m a Maryland resident and I’m (obviously) furious that some asshole is trying to restrict abortions in my BLUE fucking state.

I went to PP of Maryland.com to see if there was any info on the bill, who I could harass…whose house I need to egg (kidding!)…when I noticed that Planned Parenthood requires an ultrasound (of some sort) to determine the pregnancy date.

Can anyone explain why PP would require an ultrasound? Have we lost too much ground on this issue already? Maryland supposedly has its own version of the Freedom of Choice Act so I thought we were relatively safe on this issue.

(In any event, for other Maryland residents here is more info on who to call/egg.)

]]> By: bkwyrm http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/11/twelve-states-attempt-ultrasound-related-abortion-restrictions/#comment-226959 bkwyrm Sat, 14 Feb 2009 01:59:34 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/?p=11647#comment-226959 I've had three pregnancies (12 weeks with #3, actually, at the moment. I have had intravaginal ultrasounds with each one, Zelie. With each of these much-wanted pregnancies, the doctor gave me a printout of what looked like a grey, fuzzy jellybean. Because I wanted these pregnancies, because I was already emotionally attached to them, the ultrasound meant something to me. If I didn't want to be pregnant to begin with? The transvaginal ultrasound would have been a violation. The ultrasound would have been yet another expensive hurdle between me and my right to end an unwanted pregnancy. THAT is what this is about. Not "informational" ultrasounds. I’ve had three pregnancies (12 weeks with #3, actually, at the moment. I have had intravaginal ultrasounds with each one, Zelie.
With each of these much-wanted pregnancies, the doctor gave me a printout of what looked like a grey, fuzzy jellybean. Because I wanted these pregnancies, because I was already emotionally attached to them, the ultrasound meant something to me. If I didn’t want to be pregnant to begin with? The transvaginal ultrasound would have been a violation. The ultrasound would have been yet another expensive hurdle between me and my right to end an unwanted pregnancy.
THAT is what this is about. Not “informational” ultrasounds.

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