Ooo, good one. Pregnant Sun? Yes. Not pregnant Sun? I don’t know.

Secondly, I’m really not sure Jack would have risked Kate to save Sawyer. Jack didn’t stop Sawyer from jumping out of the helicopter — do you think he would have stopped him if he’d had the chance?

I do agree with your points prior to that one. But men have saved other men on the show, or at least attempted to, and risked their lives to do so. I also think the helicopter was different, as it was low enough to the water and Sawyer a strong enough swimmer to reasonably assume that he would be okay. I think that getting him to the boat versus him actually dying is a different story.

Then again, they admittedly would have likely never committed this scenario. But while we’re having a debate around hypothetical scenarios that are likely to never happen on the show, do you think that Jack would have been anymore likely to risk Kate for Sun than he would be for Sawyer?

And while I think you’re right that Jack definitely would have gone back for Kate, I think that’s just about the fact that he’s in love with her more than the fact that she’s a woman. I honestly do think that Jack would have insisted on getting Sawyer, too (because despite their constant arguments those two totally do love each other).

Two things. Firstly, the fact that Jack is in love with her is not unrelated to the fact that she’s a woman. The show (like most mainstream media) is from the straight male perspective — the love interest getting saved is always a woman. Jin is Sun’s love interest, but that doesn’t matter vis-a-vis getting saved.

Secondly, I’m really not sure Jack would have risked Kate to save Sawyer. Jack didn’t stop Sawyer from jumping out of the helicopter — do you think he would have stopped him if he’d had the chance?

Actually, Jin *did* try to go with Locke, he stated that he was going with him. But I don’t think it is lacking in logic that they believe Locke when he says it can only be a single person, and if the point is to bring the others *back* it creates more potential trouble if even more of them leave.

I assumed that was the smoke monster imitating him. Remember, it’s definitely imitated Yemi (Eko’s brother) and may have appeared in the guise of any number of other characters.

Well, because she’s planning to go back to the island? Forever? Did they just not clue her in on the FOREVER aspect yet, and that’s why she’s not worried? That could be it. Maybe she just thinks it’s a temporary trip or something.

Ohh right I didn’t think about that. I just assumed she thought it was temporary.

I agree that they definitely add more male characters to the show, but isn’t that all the more reason to not kill off the female ones? We got 4 tail section people, split evenly — only one man got to live. We got 5 main freighter people, Naomi, Daniel, Miles, Charlotte and Frank. Frank left the island, Naomi and Charlotte both end up dead, Daniel and Miles fine. Danielle brought on as extra female character, lasted a long time but now dead. Alex, dead.

This is the thing — they clearly need more female characters on the show, but every time they introduce one, they keep fucking killing them! It’s not that they’re necessarily killing more men than women, it’s that they’re killing a hugely disproportionate number of women total to the number on the show.

And while I think you’re right that Jack definitely would have gone back for Kate, I think that’s just about the fact that he’s in love with her more than the fact that she’s a woman. I honestly do think that Jack would have insisted on getting Sawyer, too (because despite their constant arguments those two totally do love each other).