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	<title>Comments on: North Dakota House Passes Bill Giving Rights to Fertilized Eggs</title>
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		<title>By: RobF</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 17:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good news! &lt;a href=&quot;http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/north_dakota_senate_rejects_zygote_citizen_bill/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Via Pandagon&lt;/a&gt; comes news that the bill has &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thedickinsonpress.com/articles/index.cfm?id=21805&amp;section=news&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;been defeated&lt;/a&gt; in the North Dakota Senate 29-16!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good news! <a href="http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/north_dakota_senate_rejects_zygote_citizen_bill/" rel="nofollow">Via Pandagon</a> comes news that the bill has <a href="http://www.thedickinsonpress.com/articles/index.cfm?id=21805&amp;section=news" rel="nofollow">been defeated</a> in the North Dakota Senate 29-16!</p>
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		<title>By: organizeit</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/18/north-dakota-house-passes-bill-giving-rights-to-fertilized-eggs/#comment-228514</link>
		<dc:creator>organizeit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update on House Bill 1572.  The ND Senate referred this anti-abortion bill to the Senate Judiciary Committee.  The hearing should be coming up any minute.  The Judiciary Committee Chairman is Dave Nething a Republican from Jamestown, ND.  He has been in the Senate since 1966.  His e-mail is dnething@nd.gov.  It would be appropriate to send him an e-mail to find out when he is setting this Bill for hearing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update on House Bill 1572.  The ND Senate referred this anti-abortion bill to the Senate Judiciary Committee.  The hearing should be coming up any minute.  The Judiciary Committee Chairman is Dave Nething a Republican from Jamestown, ND.  He has been in the Senate since 1966.  His e-mail is <a href="mailto:dnething@nd.gov">dnething@nd.gov</a>.  It would be appropriate to send him an e-mail to find out when he is setting this Bill for hearing.</p>
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		<title>By: organizeit</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/18/north-dakota-house-passes-bill-giving-rights-to-fertilized-eggs/#comment-228508</link>
		<dc:creator>organizeit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bill is House Bill 1572.  Get yourself organized to present testimony on this bill when it comes to the Senate for committee hearing.  Some women are organizing through the North Dakota Women&#039;s Network and others.  Bring your arguments to the floor of the North Dakota Legislature, which is comprised of mostly old, Medicare-eligible, men.  There are a few token women, but very few and intimidation runs deep up there.  Your help is needed.  Start complaining where you get results.  It does no good to fight with people quoting bible verses they believe support no abortions.  Let&#039;s get positive here and get something done.  This bill must be defeated in the Senate.  Help!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bill is House Bill 1572.  Get yourself organized to present testimony on this bill when it comes to the Senate for committee hearing.  Some women are organizing through the North Dakota Women&#8217;s Network and others.  Bring your arguments to the floor of the North Dakota Legislature, which is comprised of mostly old, Medicare-eligible, men.  There are a few token women, but very few and intimidation runs deep up there.  Your help is needed.  Start complaining where you get results.  It does no good to fight with people quoting bible verses they believe support no abortions.  Let&#8217;s get positive here and get something done.  This bill must be defeated in the Senate.  Help!!!</p>
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		<title>By: On digital clusterfuck feminism &#171; Problem Chylde</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/18/north-dakota-house-passes-bill-giving-rights-to-fertilized-eggs/#comment-227959</link>
		<dc:creator>On digital clusterfuck feminism &#171; Problem Chylde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 14:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and a job to obtain and/or keep.  Unless of course they&#8217;re &#8220;recession proof.&#8221;  Women&#8217;s fertilized eggs move closer to recognition as full people. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and a job to obtain and/or keep.  Unless of course they&#8217;re &#8220;recession proof.&#8221;  Women&#8217;s fertilized eggs move closer to recognition as full people. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 05:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something that could be used to attack the bill on legal grounds is the scientific definition of organism.  In my undergrad biology classes, an organism is usually held to be something that is self-sufficient.  For example, we were taught that viruses aren&#039;t &#039;organisms&#039; because they need to infect a cell to replicate.  Under this definition, a fetus isn&#039;t an organism until it is self-sufficient, or able to survive outside the womb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something that could be used to attack the bill on legal grounds is the scientific definition of organism.  In my undergrad biology classes, an organism is usually held to be something that is self-sufficient.  For example, we were taught that viruses aren&#8217;t &#8216;organisms&#8217; because they need to infect a cell to replicate.  Under this definition, a fetus isn&#8217;t an organism until it is self-sufficient, or able to survive outside the womb.</p>
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		<title>By: Karinna A.</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/18/north-dakota-house-passes-bill-giving-rights-to-fertilized-eggs/#comment-227878</link>
		<dc:creator>Karinna A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another ND resident here--I never knew there were so many ND feminists on the interwebs!

Anyway, I&#039;ve emailed my state senator, which is about all I can do.  I&#039;ve told Mr. A. that if this passes, we are moving across the river to Minnesota, lease be damned.  If the idiots in the legislature can make a bill that&#039;s pretty much scientifically indecipherable, I have no doubt that they lack the scientific understanding to understand that hormonal BC poses no danger to our new &quot;citizens.&quot;

ND has population problems as it is.  Do they really think that this sort of legislation is going to *attract* the young workers and professionals that they need?  My eyes hurt from rolling so hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another ND resident here&#8211;I never knew there were so many ND feminists on the interwebs!</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;ve emailed my state senator, which is about all I can do.  I&#8217;ve told Mr. A. that if this passes, we are moving across the river to Minnesota, lease be damned.  If the idiots in the legislature can make a bill that&#8217;s pretty much scientifically indecipherable, I have no doubt that they lack the scientific understanding to understand that hormonal BC poses no danger to our new &#8220;citizens.&#8221;</p>
<p>ND has population problems as it is.  Do they really think that this sort of legislation is going to *attract* the young workers and professionals that they need?  My eyes hurt from rolling so hard.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
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		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Gee golly William, I’m just not seeing it. But thanks for beating your presumably burly chest in defense of the imperiled damsels in distress, it looks to be quite a habit.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The fine damsels here at feministe are more than capable of defending themselves, though I&#039;m not quite sure you rise to the level of imperiling. I do find it interesting that you perceived being dismissively called out on etiquette and a lack of grace as chest beating. I wonder why you seem to feel the need to steer an interaction in that directions. You did the same thing with Cara, incidentally; you behaved in a provocative manner that you should have known would be corrected and then you chose to interpret that correction as an act of aggression. Moreover you tried to paint yourself as the mature victim set upon by immature attackers. You then argued that the corrections you experienced were the result of other&#039;s insecurity, implying that they were not only immature, out of line, and wrong but also weak (meaning you&#039;re strong).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Gee golly William, I’m just not seeing it. But thanks for beating your presumably burly chest in defense of the imperiled damsels in distress, it looks to be quite a habit.</p></blockquote>
<p>The fine damsels here at feministe are more than capable of defending themselves, though I&#8217;m not quite sure you rise to the level of imperiling. I do find it interesting that you perceived being dismissively called out on etiquette and a lack of grace as chest beating. I wonder why you seem to feel the need to steer an interaction in that directions. You did the same thing with Cara, incidentally; you behaved in a provocative manner that you should have known would be corrected and then you chose to interpret that correction as an act of aggression. Moreover you tried to paint yourself as the mature victim set upon by immature attackers. You then argued that the corrections you experienced were the result of other&#8217;s insecurity, implying that they were not only immature, out of line, and wrong but also weak (meaning you&#8217;re strong).</p>
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		<title>By: Repro Health Hub &#187; Blog Archive &#187; North Dakota House Passes Fetal Personhood Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/18/north-dakota-house-passes-bill-giving-rights-to-fertilized-eggs/#comment-227805</link>
		<dc:creator>Repro Health Hub &#187; Blog Archive &#187; North Dakota House Passes Fetal Personhood Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] human rights to fertilized eggs has incredibly dangerous consequences and raises some pretty tough questions. Let’s hope the North Dakota Senate rejects the amendment and that the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] human rights to fertilized eggs has incredibly dangerous consequences and raises some pretty tough questions. Let’s hope the North Dakota Senate rejects the amendment and that the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Maureen</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2009/02/18/north-dakota-house-passes-bill-giving-rights-to-fertilized-eggs/#comment-227801</link>
		<dc:creator>Maureen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is horrible and stupid and confounding.

So, IVF embryos. Say we leave them for 18 years. Can we then draft them to serve in the military? How will they vote? What about teratomas?

One thing this convinces me of is that we need to improve our science education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is horrible and stupid and confounding.</p>
<p>So, IVF embryos. Say we leave them for 18 years. Can we then draft them to serve in the military? How will they vote? What about teratomas?</p>
<p>One thing this convinces me of is that we need to improve our science education.</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The bill declares that “any organism with the genome of homo sapiens” is a person protected by rights granted by the North Dakota Constitution and state laws.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

OMFG, what a bunch of wingnuts.  


These people have a religious and ocial agenda.  The don&#039;t &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; believe a clump of cells is a real person with full rights of personhood. 

How do we know they&#039;re lying?   Because not a single one of them would risk like and limb to run into a burning fertility clinic to save a petri dish full of blastocysts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The bill declares that “any organism with the genome of homo sapiens” is a person protected by rights granted by the North Dakota Constitution and state laws.
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<p>OMFG, what a bunch of wingnuts.  </p>
<p>These people have a religious and ocial agenda.  The don&#8217;t <i>really</i> believe a clump of cells is a real person with full rights of personhood. </p>
<p>How do we know they&#8217;re lying?   Because not a single one of them would risk like and limb to run into a burning fertility clinic to save a petri dish full of blastocysts.</p>
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